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    Quote Originally Posted by dredre9987 View Post
    Seriously? what the hell is your problem man? I told you I USE THE FEAT>>>>
    What does that prove...here let me help myself, how are you testing it?

    p.s. my problem is that you and a few others are telling me to go waste some shards on something that may or may not have a hidden effect, all based off of a wiki.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tat2Freak View Post
    What does that prove...here let me help myself, how are you testing it?

    p.s. my problem is that you and a few others are telling me to go waste some shards on something that may or may not have a hidden effect, all based off of a wiki.
    Here maybe this will help....





    Trauma is the effect that gets placed with improved sunder...Again I know what the feat does BECAUSE I use it.
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    Oh and honestly, you are all carrying portal beaters on your casters? What on earth are you using it on often enough to clog up your bag with it?
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    Portals.

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    And honestly I would trust the wiki over what the in game descriptions say...Turbine is not known to be clear on things....I could go back and find the release notes on where this was changed but I don't like digging through these forums.
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    Oh and honestly, you are all carrying portal beaters on your casters? What on earth are you using it on often enough to clog up your bag with it?
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    Portals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dredre9987 View Post
    Trauma is the effect that gets placed with improved sunder...
    Now you're talking, gracias. The only problem I see is that it is a fort save as well, so I will have to figure out where to put +10 shatter. Do you notice Imp Sunder landing consistently on EE?

    p.s. OH YEAH OTTO's BOXS ARE BACK!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dredre9987 View Post
    I could go back and find the release notes on where this was changed but I don't like digging through these forums.
    Nononono, that was fine, I appreciate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tat2Freak View Post
    Nononono, that was fine, I appreciate it.
    The "trauma" effect goes even if the mob saves....so -3 fort save if they save or not....the fortification debuff and ac debuff do require a failed save by the mob but not Trauma.
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    Oh and honestly, you are all carrying portal beaters on your casters? What on earth are you using it on often enough to clog up your bag with it?
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    Portals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tat2Freak View Post
    Now you're talking, gracias. The only problem I see is that it is a fort save as well, so I will have to figure out where to put +10 shatter. Do you notice Imp Sunder landing consistently on EE?

    p.s. OH YEAH OTTO's BOXS ARE BACK!
    The Imp. sunder doesnt' ahve to land for the debuff to take effect, you merely need to land the hit on the mob and the debuff will activate with no save. The sunder itself will only activate if the mob fails the save. The debuff also stacks up to 5 stacks granting -15 fort save IIRC (-3 per stack).

    Otto's boxes are probably back because people are ditching ddo in droves lol.

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    These changes were put in around update 10 or 11...something like that...The in game description has never matched either.
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    Oh and honestly, you are all carrying portal beaters on your casters? What on earth are you using it on often enough to clog up your bag with it?
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    Portals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dredre9987 View Post
    The "trauma" effect goes even if the mob saves....so -3 fort save if they save or not....the fortification debuff and ac debuff do require a failed save by the mob but not Trauma.
    Sweet, thank you again, I was looking for an excuse to ditch whirlwind and this is perfect, two birds with one stone...

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    lol i wouldn't of wasted my time screen shoting it for him..


    Id be like oh well your loss...

    and moved on thinking wow what an idiot...

    Thinks DDO ingame descriptions are more accurate then the wiki LMAO

    DDO decriptions are made by developers that prety much clueless about the game. they know how to code and that about it.
    DDO wiki is made by players that actual know the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tat2Freak View Post
    Sweet, thank you again, I was looking for an excuse to ditch whirlwind and this is perfect, two birds with one stone...
    lol whirlwind

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dextrosa View Post
    lol whirlwind
    Only a coward makes a forum handle to flame...

    ...and a hypocrite to boot...

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    I wont be comming back! this place make my eyes bleed.
    ...good combo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tat2Freak View Post
    Only a coward makes a forum handle to flame...
    god you must be stupid?

    if you didnt notice alot of ppl lost there forum name.....

    so whats it like to walk around with your head shoved that far up .......

    when last time you seen the light of day?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dextrosa View Post
    if you didnt notice alot of ppl lost there forum name.....
    Awww...is that why you're so bitter in all you're posts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dextrosa View Post
    lol i wouldn't of wasted my time screen shoting it for him..


    Id be like oh well your loss...

    and moved on thinking wow what an idiot...
    And this is where we differ, I would rather teach and have someone learn something than end up running with someone that didn't understand because some one like you decided, instead of helping, to just move on. If it takes extra effort on my part sometimes, well so be it. I used to teach raids as well. I used to run a build your character service. People learning something they didn't know are more valuable to the community than those that refuse to learn.

    A lot of people don't learn because Turbines descriptions are horrible.
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    Oh and honestly, you are all carrying portal beaters on your casters? What on earth are you using it on often enough to clog up your bag with it?
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    Portals.

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    So what exactly does improved stunning blow do?
    if there is no idea then i think it should have increased duration, increased DC, and apply feeblemind to the target weather they save or not.

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