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    Default A passing thought about Epic Past Lives

    Each epic past life may be earned only once and all epic past life feats are passive.

    A Pure Heart of Wood is required for an epic class past life and a Proud Heart of Wood is required for an epic race past life.

    Both Pure Reincarnation and Proud Reincarnation require a character to be at the current maximum character level.

    Bonuses based on the number of class past lives earned count both heroic and epic flavors.


    Pure Heart of Wood: True Heart + 5 epic raid tokens or True Heart + 2 heroic commendations or 40 epic tokens or 8 heroic commendations

    Proud Heart of Wood: 30 epic tokens or 6 heroic commendations


    Epic Racial Past Lives:

    Epic Drow: +1 Intelligence, +1 Charisma

    Epic Dwarf: +1 Constitution, +1 save vs spells, +1 save vs poisons

    Epic Elf: +1 Dexterity, +1 save vs enchantments, +4 save vs sleep

    Epic Half-Elf: +1 social skills, +4 save vs sleep, +1 action point

    Epic Half-Orc: +1 Strength, +1 physical damage

    Epic Halfling: +1 Dexterity, +1% dodge, +5% dodge cap

    Epic Human: +1 skills, +1 action point

    Epic Warforged: +1 Constitution, +10% fortification

    Epic Racist: Requires each Epic Race feat
    Grants a +1 bonus to ability scores reduced by a racial penalty; races with no racial ability score penalty instead receive 2 additional action points


    Epic Class Past Lives:

    Epic Artificer Past Life: Grants a percentage bonus to damage from any source to constructs equal to twice the number of artificer past lives and a bonus to repair spellpower and repair amplification equal to the number of artificer class levels; alters Student of Artifice to increase enhancement bonus to 1 + 1 per 5 heroic levels; may earn an additional heroic artificer past life

    Epic Barbarian Past Life: Grants DR/- (stacking with barbarian class and enhancement DR/-) equal to the number of barbarian past lives and a chance to shrug off any mental effect with a percentage chance equal to twice the number of barbarian class levels; boosts Berserker's Fury to qualify as a prerequisite for epic toughness and grant an additional 2 hit points per epic level; may earn an additional heroic barbarian past life

    Epic Bard Past Life: Grants a percentage chance to cause a Shaken effect on any enemy in the vicinity of a song or damaged equal to the number of bard past lives plus bard class levels; boosts Bardic Dilettante to also increase the DC of each song or enchantment effect by 1 after each reoccuring failed save; may earn an additional heroic bard past life

    Epic Cleric Past Life: Grants a percentage chance for direct healing items, abilities, or spells used to also grant temporary hit points of the amount restored equal to the number of cleric past lives plus cleric class levels; boosts Initiate of the Faith to become a large area effect and to regenerate one charge every 90 seconds; may earn an additional heroic cleric past life

    Epic Druid Past Life: Grants a percentage chance for direct healing items, abilities, or spells used to also grant a 30 second regeneration effect for 10% of the amount restored each 6 seconds equal to the number of druid past lives plus druid class levels; boosts Harbinger of Nature's Wrath to not completely suck; may earn an additional heroic druid past life

    Epic Favored Soul Past Life: Grants non-standard energy resistance (light, force, negative, etc) equal to the number of favored soul past lives and a percentage damage boost to physical and spell critical hits equal to the number of favored soul class levels; boosts Acolyte of Divine Secrets to 1d8 + 1d8/2 levels and to regenerate one charge every 60 seconds; may earn an additional heroic favored soul past life

    Epic Fighter Past Life: Grants an amount of PRR equal to twice the number of fighter past lives plus half the number of fighter class levels; boosts Student of the Sword to treat confirmed critical hits from combat tactics as vorpal; may earn an additional heroic fighter past life

    Epic Monk Past Life: Grants a percentage amount of dodge equal to the number of monk past lives and increases the maximum percentage dodge cap by half the number of monk class levels; boosts Disciple of the Fist to increase base unarmed damage (1d8 with monk levels, 1d4 without) and grant Unarmed Strike to non-monks; may earn an additional heroic monk past life

    Epic Paladin Past Life: Grants a percentage physical damage boost to supernatural evil enemies by an amount equal to twice the number of paladin past lives and grants a percentage chance to ignore the critical immunity and fortification of supernatural evil enemies equal to the number of paladic class levels.; boosts Soldier of the Faith to be undispellable and targettable and to have a duration equal to one minute per caster level; may earn an additional heroic paladin past life

    Epic Ranger Past Life: Grants a percentage boost to movement, throwing, and ranged attack speed equal to the number of ranger past lives plus one quarter ranger class levels; boosts Warrior of the Wild to be an undispellable and targettable Barkskin and Ram's Might effect; may earn an additional heroic ranger past life

    Epic Rogue Past Life: Attacks that would qualify as sneak attacks treat enemy fortification as if it were a percentage lower equal to twice the number of rogue past lives plus half rogue class levels; boosts Sneak of Shadows to increase sneak attack dice from 1d6 to 1d8; may earn an additional heroic rogue past life

    Epic Sorcerer Past Life: Grants a percentage bonus to spell critical chance equal to the number of sorcerer past lives plus one fourth sorcerer class levels; boosts Arcane Prodigy to remove the reflex save and regenerate a charge every 60 seconds; may earn an additional heroic sorcerer past life

    Epic Wizard Past Life: Metamagic enhanced spells have a percentage chance equal to twice the number of wizard past lives plus half wizard class levels to refund metamagic costs as temporary spell points; boosts Arcane Initiate to regenerate a charge every 60 seconds; may earn an additional heroic wizard past life

    Epic Completionist: Requires each Epic Class feat
    Grants a +5% heroic experience boost (does not stack with Voice/Mantle), a 30% enhancement bonus to movement speed (does not stack with striding, haste, etc), two fate points, and reduces object induction time by 20%; boosts Completionist to a +3 bonus to ability scores and skills; may earn an additional heroic past life for each class


    Epic Winner: Requires Epic Racist, Epic Completionist, and five heroic past lives for each class
    You win DDO! For real this time! Now shoo.

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    Massive power creep, so no. The difference between a "finished" character under your system and an average current TRed Epic character would be so great that Turbine would be forced to rebalance content, and it would become de facto required to Epic TR your character many times (just like its de facto required to have multiple TRs now to do most top level content).Also, design wise, the TR train was designed to keep Heroic content relevant and replayable, and Epic content as "endgame". Epic content, thus, is designed with a different philosophy. There may come a day when the level cap has been raised so much that much of the current Epic content becomes obsolete (which is what TR solves for Heroic), but even when it goes up to 28 with the expansion, you dont need to add a new layer of TR just to save King's Forest...I kinda like that Epic content is meant to be enjoyed by "finished" characters, not having another layer of grinding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotMyRealAccount View Post
    Epic Racist: Requires each Epic Race feat
    Assessment: mostly overpowered. Also, maybe a tiny Confederate flag flanks your character's name on hover.
    The absurd forum change has forced 'SealedInSong' to become 'TuskCouncil' temporarily.

    Thanks for shaking up the forums until they're unreadable and unusable instead of fixing all the bugs and releasing a coherent enhancement alpha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotMyRealAccount View Post
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    If this is just from your imagination and not something being developed by Turbine, please stop posting ideas endorsing ridiculous power creep and grind. I am sick to death of naive people giving Turbine ideas on how to bog us down in grind, nerfs and time sinks.

    You might be doing it in good faith, but what happens is companies like Turbine see this kind of thing as endorsement for even more revenue raising. Meanwhile, we get sidetracked from actually playing the game, into scrambling to keep up with all the grindy, P2P bulls*t, or have our characters end up becoming completely irrelevant.

    Stop asking Turbine to screw us over even worse than they already have. Also, be very careful what you ask for from companies like this, or you will likely get it, but now how you envisioned. Before you know it, we will have server past lives, guild past lives, ddo store past lives etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaesatae View Post
    If this is just from your imagination and not something being developed by Turbine, please stop posting ideas endorsing ridiculous power creep and grind. I am sick to death of naive people giving Turbine ideas on how to bog us down in grind, nerfs and time sinks.

    You might be doing it in good faith, but what happens is companies like Turbine see this kind of thing as endorsement for even more revenue raising. Meanwhile, we get sidetracked from actually playing the game, into scrambling to keep up with all the grindy, P2P bulls*t, or have our characters end up becoming completely irrelevant.

    Stop asking Turbine to screw us over even worse than they already have. Also, be very careful what you ask for from companies like this, or you will likely get it, but now how you envisioned. Before you know it, we will have server past lives, guild past lives, ddo store past lives etc.
    First of all, if you find yourself scrambling to keep up in this game, this game may not be for you. It's an incredibly easy game, and any gimp toon can succeed. Second, berating someone for posting something they'd like to see in the game is childish. Just because YOU wouldn't like something like this, doesn't mean others wouldn't as well. Grow up and learn that not everything is designed just for you. You aren't the center of some universe where everything revolves around you and where no one else's wants are ever evaluated and implemented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jalont View Post
    white knighting/trolling attempt
    Really, that's the best you can do?

    Quote Originally Posted by jalont View Post
    First of all, if you find yourself scrambling to keep up in this game, this game may not be for you. It's an incredibly easy game, and any gimp toon can succeed.
    Nowhere did I imply that the game was hard or that my objections to the OP have anything whatsoever to do with difficulty level. Scrambling to keep up with grindy time sinks has absolutely nothing to do with how hard the game is. That you exptrapolated that out to conclude that I was somehow struggling with the skills required to play DDO is nothing more than a desperate trolling attempt.

    Quote Originally Posted by jalont View Post
    Second, berating someone for posting something they'd like to see in the game is childish. Just because YOU wouldn't like something like this, doesn't mean others wouldn't as well. Grow up and learn that not everything is designed just for you. You aren't the center of some universe where everything revolves around you and where no one else's wants are ever evaluated and implemented.
    There is a long history of exactly what I described in my first post in this game. Leaving the specifics of the OP's game mechanics flaws to one side, asking for something like this, given even the recent history of quality issues, is asking for all kinds of buggy trouble.

    We know what Turbine's response to this sort of thing has evolved into. They either declare it WAI or sell a work-around in the DDO store. They even work nerfs into the game now, disguises as bugs, to deflect and disperse customer criticism. They broke the forums and made them fugly so that less people would congregate here complaining.

    The P2W aspect of DDO has already become an obnoxious goldmine for Turdine, infecting every aspect of gameplay. Suggestions like the OP's are only begging Turbine to allow the game to devolve into an even more cynical, non-immersive, uninspired, disappointing, grindy, buggy turdfest; as they prioritise DDO store sales over quality control. Replies like yours to criticism like mine, is only further endorsing such ill concieved suggestions.

    Is that what you really want, to have massive, stupid power creep, with content adjusted to suit, requiring insane amounts of grind, only mitigated by P2W shortcuts and infested with frustrating bugs? Oh and if you think you won't be gimp by ignoring it, you haven't been following DDO's history.

    After EVERY major update, especially one's which introduce new classes or races, Turbine GUARANTEES that these will become the new FoTM easy buttons, by interfering with game mechanics, thus ensuring that those who want to continue to enjoy the same relative level of effectiveness in the game(who don't play DDO for a living), will be forced to make liberal use of all the 'change my character to FoTM and get me back to cap quick, so I can exploit the loot tables before they turn down the droprates' shortcuts and easybuttons.

    There is nothing childish about my position at all. In fact it is rather naive, given the evidence, that anyone could think otherwise. So no thanks, I'll pass, you can keep your Epic TR and any other ideas that endorses the same viscious cycle of nerf/easybutton/P2W store shortcut.

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