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    Default Farwind: An Air savant Endgame EE DPS Build

    Old thread here. Too bad the discussion was lost.

    The main focus of this build is to use what sorcerers can do best: DPS. I will not focus on Necromancy school because I do not like that kind of playstyle. Also, I would need too many Feats and I would have to sacrifice Feats that I'm not willing to sacrifice.

    Past lives:
    This build makes use of 3x Sorcerers Past Lives and 3x Wizard Past lives. It can be done without them but I highly suggest you to get them. 3 DC for your Evocation spells, 60 SP are awesome for those nasty EE mobs. The Wizard past lives are not necessary but that +6 Spell Pen is nice to have for those mobs with some Spell Resistance.

    Stats:
    Pure Human, Lv30, 36 points, True neutral:

    STR: 27 (8 base + 4 tome + 8 item + 1 Exceptional + 2 Epic Litany + 2 Ship + 2 Lasting Elixir) = 27 STR
    DEX: 30 (8 base + 4 tome + 11 item + 1 exceptional + 2 Epic Litany + 2 Ship + 2 Lasting Elixir) = 30 DEX
    CON: 48 (18 base + 6 Tome + 15 Item + 1 Exceptional + 2 Insight + 2 Epic Litany + 2 Ship + 2 Lasting Elixir) = 48 CON (+19)
    INT: 35 (12 base + 5 tome + 11 Item + 1 Exceptional + 2 Epic Litany + 2 Ship + 2 Lasting Elixir) = 33 INT (+12)
    WIS: 31 (8 base + 5 Tome + 11 item + 1 Exceptional + 2 Epic Litany + 2 Ship + 2 Lasting Elixir) = 31 WIS
    CHA: 74 (18 Base + 7 level ups + 6 Tome + 5 Enhancements + 14 Item + 1 Exceptional + 7 Insight + 2 Capstone + 4 Destiny + 2 Epic Litany + 2 Angelic Presence + 2 Ship + 2 Lasting Elixir) = 74 CHA (+32)

    HP
    4*20 = 80 HP
    48 con (+19 mod) = 570 HP
    Heroic Durability = 30 HP
    Improved Heroic Durability = 15 HP
    Vitality = 20 HP
    False life = 40 HP
    Epic levels = 100 HP
    Draconic Vitality = 10 HP
    Toughness Enhancements from EK tree = 15 HP
    Epic Primal Past Life x9 = 99 HP
    Hag's Apotecary (Ship buff) = 20 HP
    Unknown = 6 HP
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    1005 unbuffed HP
    50 Yugo Pot
    30 +2 Con Rage spell
    30 Lasting Elixir of Supreme Ability
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    1115 HP sustainable
    115 Positive Energy Infusion (Toven Cookies, 5min)
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    1230 HP


    PRR:



    Air savant capstone: +20
    Legendary Boots of the Devil Commander: +18 Insightful, +9 Quality, +1 Mythic bonus (bugged, giving 26 instead of 28)
    Legendary Boundless: +1 Mythic Bonus
    Robe of the Celestial Sage: +38
    3x Block Energy PL: +9
    1x Brace PL: +3
    3x Power over Life and Death: +9
    Scion of the Plane of Fire: +10

    Total: 116 PRR


    Dodge:



    Air savant capstone: +3%
    Legendary Brazenband: +6%
    Robe of the Celestial Sage: +15%
    Unknown: +1%

    Total: 25% Dodge



    Feats:
    1: Maximize
    1: Empower
    3: Past life: Wizard
    6: Quicken
    9: Heighten
    12: Spell focus: Evocation
    15: Spell Penetration
    18: Greater Spell Penetration
    21: Epic Spell Penetration
    24: Intensify Spell
    26: Epic Spell power: Electrical
    27: Ruin
    28: Hellball
    29: Arcane Pulse
    30: Greater Ruin
    30: Scion of the Plane of Fire



    Epic Past lifes:

    Arcane Sphere:

    - 3x Energy Criticals (9% Critical chance)
    - 1x Arcane Alacrity


    Martial Sphere:

    - 3x Skill Mastery (+3 to all Skills)


    Primal Sphere:

    - 3x Colors of the Queen (Your spells have a 7% chance to produce a random effect every 10 seconds)
    - 3x Fast Healing (Each minute you heal with positive energy, 15 HP + 15 HP per every 5 character levels)
    - 3x Doubleshot

    Divine Sphere:

    - 3x Power over Life and Death (+30 Positive and Energy Spellpower)
    - 3x Block Energy (While blocking, +10% damage absorption against Acid, Cold, Electric and Fire damage)
    - 1x Brace (+1 to all Saving Throws)



    Enhancements:




    Skills

    Max UMD, Spellcraft, Heal and Concentration.

    UMD: 11 Rank + 27 Modifier + 4 GS item cha skills + 10 Epic levels + 4 GH + 2 Epic Litany + 1 Mask + 2 Tome = 61 sustainable UMD
    Spellcraft: 23 Rank + 12 Modifier + 10 Epic levels + 4 GH + 20 Item + 4 Tome + 6 Intelligence Skills + 3 Epic past life x3 + 1 Mask + 2 Epic Litany + 3 EK Enhancement = 88 Spellcraft
    Heal: 11 Rank + 10 Modifier + 8 Epic levels + 5 Tome + 15 Item + 4 GH + 1 Mask + 2 Epic Litany = 56 Heal



    Spells:

    L1: Magic Missile, Jump, Protection from Evil, Nightshield
    L2: Blur, Invisibility, Gust of Wind, Knock
    L3: Frost Lance, Rage, Displacement, Lightning Bolt
    L4: DDoor, Ice Storm, Solid fog, Crushing Despair
    L5: Eladar's Electric Surge, Niac's Biting Cold, Ball Lightning, Mind Fog
    L6: Chain Lightning, Greater Heroism, Otiluke's Freezing Sphere
    L7: Otto's Sphere, Protection from Elements Mass, Waves of Exhaustion.
    L8: Polar Ray, Ottos Irresistible, PW: Stun
    L9: Mass Hold Monster, PW: Kill, Enervation



    Epic Destiny: Draconic Incarnation
    This is where things start to get a little bit tricky. There are many things useful in this destiny but I have to give up to some of them. The numbers before the ability means their Tier.

    1) Energy Sheathe: Electric - Rank 3
    1) Charisma 1
    2) Go out with a Bang - Rank 3
    2) Precise Evocation - Rank 2
    2) Charisma 1
    3) Blue Dragon Heritage - Rank 3
    3) Piercing Spellcraft - Rank 2
    4) Energy Burst - Rank 3
    4) Blue Dragon Spell Knowledge - Rank 3
    5) Blue Dragon Breath


    Twists of Fate:

    Epic Completionist:




    • Piercing Spellcraft (Exalted Angel): +3 to Spell Penetration
    • Echoes of the Ancestor (Fatesinger): +1 Charisma, +9 Spell power
    • Evocation Specialist (Magister): + 3 Evocation DC
    • Rejuvenation Cocoon (Primal Avatar):Protect target ally with a shield of [90/120/150] temporary HP for 9 seconds. Heals 5d6 HP every 2 seconds while the shield persists. Very awesome for self-healing.
    • Interrogation (Divine Crusader): +5 Universal Spell Power, +1% Spell Critical Chance. Your offensive spells cause enemies to gain a stack of Purification. Purification: -1 Attack Damage, -2 Spell Power, stacks up to 25 times


    Epic Destiny: Exalted Angel

    1) Radiant Power - Rank 2
    1) Endless Faith - Rank 2
    1) Healing Power - Rank 2
    1) Charisma 1
    2) Soundburst - Rank 3
    2) Charisma 1
    3) Piercing Spellcraft - Rank 3
    3) Charisma 1
    4) Charisma 1
    5) Charisma 1
    6) Charisma 1

    Twists of Fate:




    • Energy Burst (Draconic Incarnation)
    • Piercing Spellcraft (Draconic Incarnation): +2 to Spell Penetration
    • Evocation Specialist (Magister): + 3 Evocation DC
    • Rejuvenation Cocoon (Primal Avatar):Protect target ally with a shield of [90/120/150] temporary HP for 9 seconds. Heals 5d6 HP every 2 seconds while the shield persists. Very awesome for self-healing.


    Evocation DC:
    10 base + 9 Heighten + 27 Modifier + 1 Spell focus feat + 6 Equipment bonus item + 3 Past lives + 2 Draconic Incarnation Destiny + 3 Magister ED + 2 Topaz of Greater Evocation Augment + 1 Profane DC (Shadow Caster on armor) + 1 Ship buff + 1 Wizard Past life + 2 Insightful Evocation + 4 Scion of the Plane Air = 72 Evocation DC.


    With sustainable buffs:

    72 + 1 Yugo Pot + 1 Lasting Elixirs of Supreme Ability + 2 Deific Focus = 76 DC running most of the times. You can have many other buffs but those are not sustainable like these two. 76 DC is enough for every mob in the game, specially if you abuse Solid Fog like I do.


    Evocation DC when in Exalted Angel:

    10 base + 9 Heighten + 32 Modifier + 1 Spell Focus Feat + 6 Equipment bonus item + 3 Past lives + 3 Magister ED + 2 Topaz of Greater Evocation Augment + 1 Quality DC (on Gauntlets of the Arcane Soldier) + 1 Ship buff + 1 Wizard Past life + 2 Insightful Evocation + 3 Exalted Angel Core = 74 Evocation DC.


    Enchantment DC:
    10 base + 9 Heighten + 27 Modifier + 1 Spell focus feat + 6 Enchantment bonus item + 2 Topaz of Greater Enchantment Augment + 1 Profane DC (Shadow Caster on armor) + 1 Ship buff + 1 Wizard Past life + 2 Scion of the Plane Air = 61 Enchantment DC.

    With sustainable buffs:

    61 + 1 Yugo Pot + 1 Lasting Elixirs of Supreme Ability = 63 DC running most of the times. Probably not good enough for LE Raids at the moment but I'm not running much of those. This DC holds almost anything in every quest, which is good enough for now.


    Equipment:
    Another tricky point

    - Head: Epic Deific Diadem
    - Necklace: Epic Noxious Ember (Green slot: Spellcraft +15, Yellow slot: Greater / Free slot
    - Trinket: Epic Litany of the Dead
    - Cloak: +14 Charisma Cloak
    - Belt: +14 Consitution/+6 Insightful Constituion
    - Ring1: Legendary Brazenband
    - Boots: Legendary Boots of the Devil Commander
    - Gloves: Gloves of the Arcane Soldier
    - Bracers: GS Bracers with 20/10/5 Electric Spell Critical Damage
    - Armor: Robe of the Celestial Sage
    - Goggles: +6 Evocation Goggles of Spell Penetration +6
    - Ring2: 150 Impulse/23% Impulse lore/Insightful Impulse SP if you can find it
    - Main Hand: Thunder-Forged Scepter (+12, +36 Spell Implement, 150 Magnetism Spellpower, 22% Electric lore, Purple Slot: Glaciation 136/Devotion 136 Orange slot: Meridian Fragment)
    - Off-hand: GS Scepter with 150 Equipment Electric SP/+7 Insightful CHA/+37 Exception electric SP


    Different set weapons:

    - Main Hand: Thunder-Forged Scepter (+12, +36 Spell Implement, 150 Magnetism Spellpower, 22% Electric lore, Purple Slot: Glaciation 136/Devotion 136 Orange slot: Meridian Fragment)
    - Off Hand: 10/20/30% Heal amp Scepter

    - Main Hand: Thunder-Forged Scepter (+12, +36 Spell Implement, 150 Impulse Spellpower, +7 Spell Penetration, 22% Kinetic lore, Orange slot: Meridian Fragment)
    - Off-hand: 10/20/30% Heal amp Scepter


    Spell Power and Spell Pool:
    Everything is counted with Superior Potions bought in House Jorasco, giving 25 Alchemical Spell Power (5 more than Shavarath belts) and Potions of Spellpower (+25 stacking Spell Power) from CoVs:

    Electric: 762, Electrocution (+25 SP), Meridian Fragment (+24 SP) for a max total of 811
    Cold: 542, Hoarfrost (+25 SP), Meridian Fragment (+24 SP) for a max total of 591

    I took a picture of what my usually spellpower is most throughout the quests and especially in boss fights:

    Notice: Cold Spell power is missing +150 Enhancement bonus, +25 from House J potion and +25 from Hoarfrost
    Notice: Force Spell power is missing +20 from House J potion



    Total Electric: 1.012 + 300 Feats = 1.312 Electric Spellpower
    Total Force: 692 + 300 Feats = 992 Force Spellpower

    Of this, the non-sustainable ones are: +50 Draconic Fury (5 minute cooldown clicky), +150 WellSpring of Power (3 minute cooldown clicky) and +20 Action boost (only because I have 5 Action boosts per shrine, sustainable in every quest). Which in the end makes up for:

    1.092 sustainable Electric Spellpower
    772 sustainable Force Spellpower


    I have 4470 SP with just Ship buffs, more than enough for every quest in game at the moment and happy with it.




    Achievements and Videos:

    - Rys' YT Channel: check out Rys' channel. Not only there are our Raid duos togheter, which are very fun and entertaining, where you can see this build (and many variants of it) in action, she is an amazing person and player (when she is not graze hitting the mobs) and has tons of cool videos.
    - Farwil's YT Channel: I don't update it very often since my computer is not that good to handle it but there are 2-3 solo runs that I recorded a few ago, that are also linked below.




    Conclusion:

    I'm really enjoying the DPS and survavibility of this build. Whenever I'm in trouble, Wind Dance and a heal Scroll healing me for 300+ are great and the knockdown immunity is just something that I can't give up. I really hated when, with no savants avaible, every Cometfall or Trip made me fall on the ground forever, basically meaning Death.
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    First I just want to say, there is no plain reply only reply with quote, so I am not sure how clean this will be. I don't meant to quote your entire piece.

    Overall it is an adequate build. For 3 past lives as sorc, I still think that you can do better but still enjoyable.

    1. Get rid of extend, no reason for a sorc to have extend. Replace it with epic toughness, the 50 xtr hp will benefit you a lot more than a few more seconds of haste.

    2. I would probably replace your active sorc past life with force of personality. Having higher will saves would go a lot further.

    3. Some of your spell choices seem to be a waste. You don't have any fire spells yet you spent 1 point on flame power.

    You dont' seem to have a striding item nor did you take expeditious retreat. Why bother with hypnotism?

    Halt undead, cloud kill,

    Your enchant DC will be so low why even bother with those either, Unless you are only running epic hard. Just a waste of spell slots.

    As for destinies, what a waste not having tier 3 of EB, Yes it is a lot of points 9, but the 9-14k crits are pretty nice. Dragon breath is nice but the ice one is slightly better for aiming than the electric one.

    You have +4 tomes, 2 GS items every single GH gear that you can, multiple past lives. You should be a monster, but frankly I still don't think that this toon can solo all epic elites. It still reeks as a mediocre build.

    I think that your DC's are nice. I can only hit 50 at lvl 25, but I am a WF. Which I still think is the master of arcane races. The self heal ability is so much nicer than relying on scroll healing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeichen View Post
    First I just want to say, there is no plain reply only reply with quote, so I am not sure how clean this will be. I don't meant to quote your entire piece.
    Bottom left of the thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by zeichen View Post
    1. Get rid of extend, no reason for a sorc to have extend. Replace it with epic toughness, the 50 xtr hp will benefit you a lot more than a few more seconds of haste.
    Extend is not an epic feat. And 50 HP aren't that useful when grouped I can buff up to ~700. That's all I ever need

    Quote Originally Posted by zeichen View Post
    2. I would probably replace your active sorc past life with force of personality. Having higher will saves would go a lot further.
    What for? FoM and Protection from Evil are all I ever need. My Will saves is +28 unbuffed. Bringing them to 48 just for one spell seems like a waste (and will probably fail it most of the times knowing eeGH mobs' DC). And if they don't cast it in the middle of my head, I can get rid of it with just one spell.

    Quote Originally Posted by zeichen View Post
    3. Some of your spell choices seem to be a waste. You don't have any fire spells yet you spent 1 point on flame power.
    It's been replaced with Force long time ago I forgot to do some changes when I copied over.

    Quote Originally Posted by zeichen View Post
    You dont' seem to have a striding item nor did you take expeditious retreat. Why bother with hypnotism?

    Halt undead, cloud kill,

    Your enchant DC will be so low why even bother with those either, Unless you are only running epic hard. Just a waste of spell slots.
    Hypnotism and Halt undead are also gone from time ago. Have Lightning bolt and can't remember at level 1 at the moment. Something useless probably. Cloud kill, DC? What? 20% Concealment is still great.

    Quote Originally Posted by zeichen View Post
    As for destinies, what a waste not having tier 3 of EB, Yes it is a lot of points 9, but the 9-14k crits are pretty nice. Dragon breath is nice but the ice one is slightly better for aiming than the electric one.
    Let's cut the head to the bull: You can't crit for 14k. Your T3 crits will mostly go from 8k to 10k. 14k only if they are helpless + debuffed. I still crit for 8k with T1, can't see the problem. Dreagon Breath works fine if you know how to aim it. With lower DC, it won't matter: they are going to save from it anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by zeichen View Post
    You have +4 tomes, 2 GS items every single GH gear that you can, multiple past lives. You should be a monster, but frankly I still don't think that this toon can solo all epic elites. It still reeks as a mediocre build.
    The only epic elite solo I'm missing is Crucible. Believe it or not. I posted the Madstone one if you saw it, it was the only one worth it.

    Quote Originally Posted by zeichen View Post
    I think that your DC's are nice. I can only hit 50 at lvl 25, but I am a WF. Which I still think is the master of arcane races. The self heal ability is so much nicer than relying on scroll healing.
    Hint hint: Cocoon.
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    How often do you fail a spell pen check with PW: Kill, Enervation etc on EE? Myself I was thinking of trying level 1 spell Sonic Blast as a backup cc as its evo and attacks will, but has spell pen check. Its a short 2-6 sec daze, the description says it single target but wiki says it has a spherical area of effect. Im not sure that it would be reliable on EE due to also having no spell pen feats except one wiz past life and the caster levels from Draconic ED.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoiii View Post
    How often do you fail a spell pen check with PW: Kill, Enervation etc on EE? Myself I was thinking of trying level 1 spell Sonic Blast as a backup cc as its evo and attacks will, but has spell pen check. Its a short 2-6 sec daze, the description says it single target but wiki says it has a spherical area of effect. Im not sure that it would be reliable on EE due to also having no spell pen feats except one wiz past life and the caster levels from Draconic ED.
    These spells are mostly used on mobs with no Spell Resistance. If you are looking at a daze-like stun, Electric loop does the job very well. Greater shout also but need a bit more practice with targeting.

    Mobs with SR check can be dealt with a couple of tries of Ottos, I wouldn't suggest picking up Sonic blast if you can't bypass SP. However, should be said that very few mobs have SR at all in eGH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizza View Post
    These spells are mostly used on mobs with no Spell Resistance. If you are looking at a daze-like stun, Electric loop does the job very well. Greater shout also but need a bit more practice with targeting.

    Mobs with SR check can be dealt with a couple of tries of Ottos, I wouldn't suggest picking up Sonic blast if you can't bypass SP. However, should be said that very few mobs have SR at all in eGH.
    Electric Loop and Greater Shout were what I was using as I based my sorc on yours and scoobs air savant builds. Greater Shout can be tricky at times to aim, but still liked the spell. Currently working on my 3rd sorc life so cant try sonic blast out. Main reason for considering it is beacause its will save while loop requires to beat reflex save before the daze on will and greater shout is fort. Also I always had hypno as my 4th lvl 1 spell, but with poor enchant dc I would prob be better off with sonic blast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoiii View Post
    Electric Loop and Greater Shout were what I was using as I based my sorc on yours and scoobs air savant builds. Greater Shout can be tricky at times to aim, but still liked the spell. Currently working on my 3rd sorc life so cant try sonic blast out. Main reason for considering it is beacause its will save while loop requires to beat reflex save before the daze on will and greater shout is fort. Also I always had hypno as my 4th lvl 1 spell, but with poor enchant dc I would prob be better off with sonic blast.
    I'm not sure how anyone could base a sorc build on both mine and this one, as they are so different that they are almost polar opposites.
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    I think I'm going to use this as the basis of next life for my sorc...getting tired of the Shiradi Sorc.

    Thinking of EE Silver Ingot Arcanum instead of Twilight, though...>20 CitW without getting it (or even seeing it on my sorc, even in 20th list) has made me decide it's not worth it to get Twilight. Not sure where I'll pick up Major Evocation Focus, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Arcscoob View Post
    I'm not sure how anyone could base a sorc build on both mine and this one, as they are so different that they are almost polar opposites.
    Pretty much this.
    Far's sorc dies way less in EE.
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    Can u post again the link for your solo EE madstone?
    The one in the first post doesn't work
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nephilia View Post
    Can u post again the link for your solo EE madstone?
    The one in the first post doesn't work
    https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...sistence-bonus

    If an old link isn't working, just change the /en/ with /forums/ in the url.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizza View Post
    4*20 = 100 HP
    4 times 20 is 80....other than that I like the build if they ever fix spell crits I might try this out.

    EDIT: until that point I'm sticking with shiradi, cause a DI sorc just feels pathetic with the crit bugs Also if I go to this I might have to do a Wizard life first lol
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    Default Great build!

    However I have following questions:

    1. Why nightshield and protection from evil? Does the resistance bonus from the spell stack with item? and don't you get protection from evil buff from airship? or is it still bugged?

    2. Would you mind explain how you get 19 UMD modifiers?

    3. Where did you get your +1 exceptional cha?

    Thanks in advance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by curiouspilot View Post
    However I have following questions:

    1. Why nightshield and protection from evil? Does the resistance bonus from the spell stack with item? and Don't you get protection from evil buff from airship? or is it still bugged?

    2. Would you mind explain how you get 19 UMD modifiers?

    Thanks in advance.
    Nightshield protects from Magic Missile - so does Shield, but shield sounds stupid.
    Protection from evil... Well. I had it on my sorc, death happens.

    19 UMD mod? It was from charisma.
    Breakdown of charisma is here: CHA: 50 (18 Base + 6 level ups + 4 Tome + 4 Enhancements + 8 Item + 1 Exceptional + 3 Insight + 5 Destiny +1 Great Charisma) = 50 CHA (+20)

    So, it was actually +20 mod, not +19. (Rest of UMD mod is explained)

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    Hey Far, since I know you been messing around with Sorc's on Lama a little, are there any plans to update your build? I'd be really curious to know before I LR mine next week.

    Quote Originally Posted by curiouspilot View Post
    However I have following questions:

    1. Why nightshield and protection from evil? Does the resistance bonus from the spell stack with item? and Don't you get protection from evil buff from airship? or is it still bugged?

    Thanks in advance.
    1. As mentioned above Nightshield for the pesky MM and PFE is to prevent you from being greater commanded by priestesses or anything that commands. (handy to stay alive)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulfurnace View Post
    Nightshield protects from Magic Missile - so does Shield, but shield sounds stupid.
    Protection from evil... Well. I had it on my sorc, death happens.

    19 UMD mod? It was from charisma.
    Breakdown of charisma is here: CHA: 50 (18 Base + 6 level ups + 4 Tome + 4 Enhancements + 8 Item + 1 Exceptional + 3 Insight + 5 Destiny +1 Great Charisma) = 50 CHA (+20)

    So, it was actually +20 mod, not +19. (Rest of UMD mod is explained)
    Doh! I totally forgot about cha mods lol...and if the resistance bonus from nightshield does not stack, then I'd choose shield instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drwaz99 View Post
    Hey Far, since I know you been messing around with Sorc's on Lama a little, are there any plans to update your build? I'd be really curious to know before I LR mine next week.



    1. As mentioned above Nightshield for the pesky MM and PFE is to prevent you from being greater commanded by priestesses or anything that commands. (handy to stay alive)
    You didn't read my post carefully dude, I know what the spells do but I was wondering why a sorc would have it taking up one spell slot when one can easily get it from one's guild airship buff, if it's not still bugged, as I mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by curiouspilot View Post
    You didn't read my post carefully dude, I know what the spells do but I was wondering why a sorc would have it taking up one spell slot when one can easily get it from one's guild airship buff, if it's not still bugged, as I mentioned.
    I'm sorry I didn't dissect your post word for word. Excuse me. The airship buff is still bugged and was mentioned quite a while back by the devs probably never going to be fixed (bottom of the pile). Of course that is always subject to change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by curiouspilot View Post
    However I have following questions:

    1. Why nightshield and protection from evil? Does the resistance bonus from the spell stack with item? and don't you get protection from evil buff from airship? or is it still bugged?

    PfE because the ship buff is bugged and because Command = death. Nightshield simply because of MM resistance. You can go with Shield but there wasn't much difference for me.

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    2. Would you mind explain how you get 19 UMD modifiers?
    Forgot to update that bit, it's +20 from a standing 50 CHA.

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    3. Where did you get your +1 exceptional cha?
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    Hey Far, since I know you been messing around with Sorc's on Lama a little, are there any plans to update your build? I'd be really curious to know before I LR mine next week.
    As soon as U19 drops, I will make some major changes, including:

    I will have 3 Feats slot free because I will swap out: Extend (sigh), Toughness and the new feat slot at 27. I will go with:

    - Quicken (half of a waste but no better options, might keep extend.). It will be used for SLAs (I will have 5 of them + EBurst + DBreath and some spells like Solid Fog)
    - Mental Toughness: 1% Crit chance and some SP
    - Improved Mental Toughness: 1% Crit chance and more SP

    The epic feat at lv 26 will be +20 Electric Spellpower.
    The epic feat at lv 28 will be Hellball.

    Cha +11 item and Evocation +5 will bring my Evo DC to 58. Or something along those lines. Fully buffed with Solid fog and Waves it will be 65~68.

    I will lose 1 cha in the Enhancement but will get 1 from the +5 tome that sometime soon will come.

    I will go Air/Fire for the debuff/fire dot. Will have Burning Hands and Scorch SLAs.

    My spell list will be heavily revised.

    Ice storm -> wall of fire
    Prismatic Spray or maybe even Polar ray (sigh) -> DBF. Welcome greatest of all AOEs.
    Mass hold monster -> Meteor Swarm
    The cold dot will stay only because there is no other spell in that slot.


    Oh and once I acquire an Ottos Box, I will use the LR+20 to LR to Wizard and then TR again to Sorcerer to get a free Wiz PL (that will be swapped for Sorc PL).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizza View Post
    As soon as U19 drops, I will make some major changes, including:

    I will have 3 Feats slot free because I will swap out: Extend (sigh), Toughness and the new feat slot at 27. I will go with:

    - Quicken (half of a waste but no better options, might keep extend.). It will be used for SLAs (I will have 5 of them + EBurst + DBreath and some spells like Solid Fog)
    - Mental Toughness: 1% Crit chance and some SP
    - Improved Mental Toughness: 1% Crit chance and more SP

    The epic feat at lv 26 will be +20 Electric Spellpower.
    The epic feat at lv 28 will be Hellball.

    Cha +11 item and Evocation +5 will bring my Evo DC to 58. Or something along those lines. Fully buffed with Solid fog and Waves it will be 65~68.

    I will lose 1 cha in the Enhancement but will get 1 from the +5 tome that sometime soon will come.

    I will go Air/Fire for the debuff/fire dot. Will have Burning Hands and Scorch SLAs.

    My spell list will be heavily revised.

    Ice storm -> wall of fire
    Prismatic Spray or maybe even Polar ray (sigh) -> DBF. Welcome greatest of all AOEs.
    Mass hold monster -> Meteor Swarm
    The cold dot will stay only because there is no other spell in that slot.


    Oh and once I acquire an Ottos Box, I will use the LR+20 to LR to Wizard and then TR again to Sorcerer to get a free Wiz PL (that will be swapped for Sorc PL).
    Many thanks sir. I have many decisions to make before I LR...mostly to see which/if any of the bugs you pointed are fixed. Even holding of upgrading my Twilight, just-in-case...Vulnerable + Fire Debuff def looks like strong single target DPS. Might just be worth switching out of my gimped Ice Savant. Altho the -1 to saves is a nice party buff too...

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