I'm very wary of how Turbine is handling this situation. There is a very high level of scrutiny when corporations represent a cause/non-profit and if found guilty of wrongdoing, they risk a LOT of fines. I work in development at a university and if we collect ANY money (5 cent, $1, or $100,000) the customer has the RIGHT to receive a receipt for tax purposes.
The reason why I say this: someone who spends TP on this virtual ribbon (used to "raise awareness") can misconstrue it as a donation. That's problem #1. If they expected or demanded a receipt they would either receive one or not receive one. This then gives the appearance that TP has monetary value (and is potentially being used as currency) or that they are misrepresenting their philanthropic efforts (respectively). That's problem #2. Problem #3 is then the IRS can investigate Turbine for fraud (either with The One Fund or with TP or both).
Words of caution...
Count me as not impressed.
Unless I'm mistaken this is how this went down from point of view.
When the item came out it did NOT have the code in the description.
That was changed later.
Here is a quote from Cordo that indicates that
I saw the ribbon and it really appeared to me to be a donation to The One Fund.
I came on to the forums and to my surprise read the money went to Turbine profits.
I asked a simple question "Where did my 100 TP go?"
My question was not answered but instead some lawyery double speak was offered.
The description has since been changed.
Had a straightforward response been offered I would probably have shut right up.
Let's not misrepresent each other.
I'm not going to hide my head in shame because I'm not against The One Fund or even DDOs involvement but only the way they set this up.
The fact that they changed the description to add the code indicates they realize it was confusing so I don't feel ignorant or feel I need to revisit my reading skills.
I'm not a hater just someone who thought they were contributing to a great fund, found out I had thrown my money in a hole, didn't get a satisfying acknowledgement of that fact, and was asking for a change to the system.
I'm over this and done with it but had to point out to the back half of this thread to go back and read the front half of this thread and read how this has developed.
Last edited by phillymiket; 05-02-2013 at 06:48 AM.
BONGO FURY - Ghallanda - Thingfish - Wizard, Diuni - Ninja, Gheale - Angel, Dullknife - Tank, Noodlefish - Gimp, Jaquaby - Treacherous and other gimps I won't cop to.
I like the ribbons they are nice since they last forever and I can swap them around as I please.
They look pretty on my toon.
Realizing that they were more permanent than the one shot "I won", I got 5 more with my 10 per account coupon.
Today after pondering the situation a bit more, and glancing at this thread, I decided to contribute,
something I definitely would not have done otherwise.
Those of you concerned about where YOUR TP went, rest assured that a situation of this nature has an obvious solution,
which I acted upon while clicking the "Other" checkmark in a way that was more than enough for multiple mistakes...
And now when Fawn clicks on her ribbon, she remembers the angel of mercy passed on by her.
It's not that they aren't willing to tell you. It's that the question is meaningless. TP aren't money. They don't have a monetary value. They don't even have a remotely consistent monetary cost. There is no way to translate from TP to dollars. So TP don't go anywhere. And they can't. And the question is meaningless and can't be answered. It has no answer.
There is no way for anyone to know how much money is associated with any TP spent on these ribbons. We can't meaningfully answer that question. So there's no way for them to do anything with "the money from this", because we don't know which money that was, or even how much of it there was.
Instead of lawyering this topic seven ways from sunday, can't you just support the cause as intended...or leave it alone? It's really not that complicated, so long as this doesn't lead to virtual Coke Machines in the Harbor.
I like the ribbons. A glowy floaty thing over my shoulder is fun. They need more of these!
I also initially thought that purchasing the ribbons would've been a straight donation to the One Fund; however, the description (at least currently) clearly states it's to raise awareness of it, and i was fortunate enough to get on AFTER seeing the code. So color me "not unhappy".
Although Turbine could (and should) increase the number of uses of the code - say, to "unlimited."
"Ignorance killed the cat, sir; curiosity was framed."
Tripoint, C.J. Cherryh
Advocating repeated nerfs in the name of "balancing the game" then complaining about how DDO is moving away from D&D, is a direct contradiction in logic - D&D 3.5 (what DDO is based on) is not a balanced game. We can either have a balanced clone MMO with homogenized classes, or we can have a D&D game. We cant have both.
seems like people will complain about anything=( and i thought all the trolls were on facebook.lol
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