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    Default hi all Nub here with a question

    ok can someone tell me the best rouge barbarian build for dwarf starting with points 32 build feets and enchantments please thank you.

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    TWF or THF? Do you want trap skills, or is the rog splash just for Evasion (& maybe UMD)?

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    with trap skills

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    soooooo anything?

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    I could throw it together, but... it just has issues that make it frustrating.
    Namely, the way barbarian rage affects trap skills. (And you always rage, else you're a gimped fighter!)
    And the way barb rage affects UMD. It's doable, sure. But other classes would be better.
    And you didn't answer Unbongwah's question: THF or TWF?
    Affects starting stats, feats, etc.

    *edit* Just had a thought..
    Is this meant to be a rogue with a few barb levels, or a barb with a few rogue?
    Last edited by Soulfurnace; 07-03-2013 at 07:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NubMuscle View Post
    with trap skills
    You only answered one of my questions.

    Nevertheless, here's an example of a barb 18 / rog 2 build w/UMD & trapskills:
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    Level 21 True Neutral Human Female
    (18 Barbarian \ 2 Rogue \ 1 Epic) 
    Hit Points: 395
    Spell Points: 0 
    BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
    Fortitude: 15
    Reflex: 11
    Will: 5
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (28 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 21)
    Strength             16                    24
    Dexterity            12                    14
    Constitution         16                    18
    Intelligence         12                    12
    Wisdom                8                     8
    Charisma              8                     8
    
    Tomes Used
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 20
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 20
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 20
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 21)
    Balance               5                     7
    Bluff                -1                     0
    Concentration         3                     5
    Diplomacy            -1                     0
    Disable Device        5                    25
    Haggle                3                     4
    Heal                 -1                     0
    Hide                  1                     3
    Intimidate           -1                     0
    Jump                  7                    12
    Listen               -1                     0
    Move Silently         1                     3
    Open Lock             5                    14
    Perform              n/a                    n/a
    Repair                1                     2
    Search                5                    25
    Spot                  3                     4
    Swim                  3                     8
    Tumble                5                     7
    Use Magic Device      3                    23
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Skill: Balance (+4)
    Skill: Disable Device (+4)
    Skill: Haggle (+4)
    Skill: Jump (+4)
    Skill: Open Lock (+4)
    Skill: Search (+4)
    Skill: Spot (+4)
    Skill: Tumble (+4)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Cleave
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    
    
    Level 2 (Barbarian)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 3 (Barbarian)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    
    
    Level 4 (Barbarian)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 5 (Barbarian)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 6 (Barbarian)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
    
    
    Level 7 (Barbarian)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost II
    Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Frenzied Berserker I
    Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness I
    
    
    Level 8 (Rogue)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+7)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 9 (Barbarian)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 10 (Barbarian)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 11 (Barbarian)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 12 (Barbarian)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 13 (Barbarian)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 14 (Barbarian)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost III
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage III
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage III
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack III
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage III
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage IV
    Enhancement: Barbarian Frenzied Berserker II
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II
    Enhancement: Rogue Wand and Scroll Mastery I
    
    
    Level 15 (Barbarian)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 16 (Barbarian)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 17 (Barbarian)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 18 (Barbarian)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 19 (Barbarian)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 20 (Barbarian)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost IV
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Action Boost I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage IV
    Enhancement: Barbarian Frenzied Berserker III
    Enhancement: Human Versatility I
    Enhancement: Human Versatility II
    Enhancement: Human Versatility III
    Enhancement: Human Versatility IV
    Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness II
    
    
    Level 21 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Overwhelming Critical
    There are a few challenges to playing a barb trapper. The first, as Soulfurnace mentions, is you can't search for or disable traps while Raged; this means either dismissing Rage to deal with them or disabling them all first, then Raging. The second is I didn't have enough skill pts for Spot; vets just memorize where all the traps are, but a newbie like you will probably want to look up the quests on the wiki before adventuring so you know what to expect. That or find them the painful way by setting them off.

    Rage also prevents you from using scrolls or wands, so again you need to play around that, esp. if you want to be a self-healer. My suggestion is to UMD various buffs (i.e., Shield, Blur, Stoneskin, Fire Shield, etc.) before combat, then Rage before charging in. Low base DEX means low base Reflex saves, so be sure to invest in boosting those, otherwise Evasion ain't worth squat; learn to use (Imp) Uncanny Dodge once you have it.

    EDIT: another option would be to go for more rog lvls; e.g., barb 12 / rog 8. You give up FB III and a bunch of HPs; but you get a lot more skill pts, extra sneak atks, and Wand&Scroll Mastery III.
    Last edited by unbongwah; 07-03-2013 at 10:57 AM.

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