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  1. #1
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    Default Looking for current build, 18/2 Bard/Ftr (warchanter)

    As the title says, looking for an up to date 18/2 (5) Bard/Ftr build or possibly a 16/2/2 (5) build with rogue thrown in. This would be a 36 point TR build, past lives in Wiz and FvS so not much help there. I'm just horrible at planning out what lvls to take where. Any help appreciated, I've been combing the forums for the last hour and a half.

    This char has a +4 all Tome already.

    Rogue skills not so important to me, as I already have 2 rogues.

    I am leaning towards big 2H'rs so.... THF line would be nice.

    I was thinking something along the Classic Rocker build, with 2 ftr lvls thrown in for bonus feats ( Weapon Specialization, and .... ) Would it be worth it to sacrifice the capstone on a melee focused Warchanter ??


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    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.16.01
    DDO Character Planner Home Page
    
    Zarkath 
    Level 25 Neutral Good Human Male
    (2 Fighter \ 18 Bard \ 5 Epic) 
    Hit Points: 350
    Spell Points: 693 
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 14
    Reflex: 12
    Will: 12
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 25)
    Strength             18                    27
    Dexterity             8                    12
    Constitution         16                    20
    Intelligence         12                    16
    Wisdom                8                    12
    Charisma             14                    18
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
    +3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11
    +4 Tome of Strength used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Constitution used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Wisdom used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Charisma used at level 15
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 25)
    Balance               3                    29
    Bluff                 6                    30
    Concentration         7                    31
    Diplomacy             5                    30
    Disable Device        n/a                   8
    Haggle                6                    30
    Heal                 -1                     6
    Hide                 -1                    16
    Intimidate            2                     9
    Jump                  8                    23
    Listen               -1                     6
    Move Silently        -1                    22
    Open Lock            n/a                    6
    Perform               6                    32
    Repair                1                     8
    Search                1                     8
    Spot                 -1                     6
    Swim                  4                    13
    Tumble                0                     7
    Use Magic Device      6                    32
    
    Level 1 (Bard)
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Favored Soul
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Favored Soul
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Toughness
    Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 2 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 3 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    
    
    Level 4 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 5 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 6 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Cleave
    
    
    Level 7 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 8 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 9 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
    
    
    Level 10 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 11 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 12 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 13 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 14 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 15 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell
    
    
    Level 16 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 17 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 18 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
    
    
    Level 19 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 20 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 21 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Inspire Excellence
    
    
    Level 22 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 23 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 24 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Overwhelming Critical
    
    
    Level 25 (Bard)
    Thanks in advance.
    Last edited by Grolnin; 04-16-2013 at 12:16 PM.

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    Not saying it's a good idea or not, but I threw something together yesterday as a concept build for myself. No idea if it's any good or not, since I just threw it together to give myself something to think about.

    Main differences are that I went virtuoso, to save a feat (although with the feats I took I could go spellsinger), and that I took Barb PL, but that can be replaced by toughness if you don't have it, or want more HP for epics. I just like the up-front HP on TRs. Also in my mind, by taking any fighter levels, you lose the biggest advantage I find about WC, which is the weapon usage. I don't care too much about light vs. medium armor, and I find the WC buffs aren't very helpful.

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    Character Generated Using: DDO Character Generator
    Direct Link to Build: http://www.ddochargen.com/home.aspx?build=49456
    
    Bard 16 / Fighter 2 / Rogue 2
    Male Human - True Neutral
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    PAST LIVES SELECTED:
    Barbarian (1), Cleric (1), Favored Soul (1), Fighter (1), 
    Paladin (1), Ranger (1), Sorcerer (1), Wizard (2)
    Tomes Recorded: STR: +3, DEX: +3, CON: +3, INT: +4, 
    WIS: +4, CHA: +3
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    LEVEL 1
    Race Selected: Male Human
    Alignment Selected: True Neutral
    Class Selected: Rogue (Rogue 1)
    Abilities Raised: STR: 18, CON: 16, INT: 10, CHA: 15
    Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +4 (4), Bluff +4 (4), 
    Disable Device +4 (4), Jump +4 (4), Open Lock +4 (4), 
    Search +4 (4), Spot +4 (4), Tumble +4 (4), UMD +4 (4)
    Feats Selected: Power Attack, Cleave
    ________________________________________________________________
    
    LEVEL 2:
    Class Selected: Bard (Bard 1 / Rogue 1)
    Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (5), Perform +5 (5), 
    UMD +1 (5)
    ________________________________________________________________
    
    LEVEL 3:
    Class Selected: Fighter (Bard 1 / Fighter 1 / Rogue 1)
    (Applied Past Life Tome Bonuses)
    Skills Ranks Raised: Disable Device +1 (5), Search +0.5 (4.5)
    Feats Selected: Past Life (Berserkers Fury), 
    Two-Handed Fighting
    ________________________________________________________________
    
    LEVEL 4:
    Class Selected: Bard (Bard 2 / Fighter 1 / Rogue 1)
    Abilities Raised: STR: 20
    Skills Ranks Raised: Perform +2 (7), Search +1.5 (6), 
    UMD +2 (7)
    ________________________________________________________________
    
    LEVEL 5:
    Class Selected: Bard (Bard 3 / Fighter 1 / Rogue 1)
    Skills Ranks Raised: Disable Device +2 (7), 
    Perform +1 (8), Search +1 (7)
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    LEVEL 6:
    Class Selected: Bard (Bard 4 / Fighter 1 / Rogue 1)
    Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +4 (9), Perform +1 (9), 
    Search +1 (8)
    Feats Selected: Great Cleave
    ________________________________________________________________
    
    LEVEL 7:
    Class Selected: Rogue (Bard 4 / Rogue 2 / Fighter 1)
    (Applied Past Life Tome Bonuses)
    Skills Ranks Raised: Disable Device +3 (10), 
    Open Lock +5 (9), Search +2 (10)
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    LEVEL 8:
    Class Selected: Bard (Bard 5 / Rogue 2 / Fighter 1)
    Abilities Raised: STR: 22
    Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +2 (11), Disable Device +1 (11), 
    Perform +2 (11), Search +1 (11)
    ________________________________________________________________
    
    LEVEL 9:
    Class Selected: Bard (Bard 6 / Rogue 2 / Fighter 1)
    Skills Ranks Raised: Perform +1 (12), Search +1 (12), 
    UMD +5 (12)
    Feats Selected: Maximize Spell
    ________________________________________________________________
    
    LEVEL 10:
    Class Selected: Bard (Bard 7 / Rogue 2 / Fighter 1)
    Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +2 (13), Disable Device +2 (13), 
    Search +1 (13)
    ________________________________________________________________
    
    LEVEL 11:
    Class Selected: Bard (Bard 8 / Rogue 2 / Fighter 1)
    (Applied Past Life Tome Bonuses)
    Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (14), Disable Device +1 (14), 
    Perform +2 (14), Search +1 (14), UMD +1 (13)
    ________________________________________________________________
    
    LEVEL 12:
    Class Selected: Bard (Bard 9 / Rogue 2 / Fighter 1)
    Abilities Raised: STR: 24
    Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (15), Disable Device +1 (15), 
    Perform +1 (15), Search +1 (15), UMD +2 (15)
    Feats Selected: Improved Two-Handed Fighting
    ________________________________________________________________
    
    LEVEL 13:
    Class Selected: Fighter (Bard 9 / Fighter 2 / Rogue 2)
    Skills Ranks Raised: Disable Device +1 (16), Search +1 (16)
    Feats Selected: Improved Critical (Slashing)
    ________________________________________________________________
    
    LEVEL 14:
    Class Selected: Bard (Bard 10 / Fighter 2 / Rogue 2)
    Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (16), Disable Device +1 (17), 
    Perform +2 (17), Search +1 (17), UMD +1 (16)
    ________________________________________________________________
    
    LEVEL 15:
    Class Selected: Bard (Bard 11 / Fighter 2 / Rogue 2)
    (Applied Past Life Tome Bonuses)
    Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +2 (18), Disable Device +1 (18), 
    Perform +1 (18), Search +1 (18), UMD +2 (18)
    Feats Selected: Greater Two-Handed Fighting
    ________________________________________________________________
    
    LEVEL 16:
    Class Selected: Bard (Bard 12 / Fighter 2 / Rogue 2)
    Abilities Raised: STR: 25
    Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (19), Concentration +2 (2), 
    Disable Device +1 (19), Perform +1 (19), Search +1 (19), UMD +1 (19)
    ________________________________________________________________
    
    LEVEL 17:
    Class Selected: Bard (Bard 13 / Fighter 2 / Rogue 2)
    Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (20), Concentration +2 (4), 
    Disable Device +1 (20), Perform +1 (20), Search +1 (20), UMD +1 (20)
    ________________________________________________________________
    
    LEVEL 18:
    Class Selected: Bard (Bard 14 / Fighter 2 / Rogue 2)
    Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (21), Concentration +2 (6), 
    Disable Device +1 (21), Perform +1 (21), Search +1 (21), UMD +1 (21)
    Feats Selected: Empower Healing Spell
    ________________________________________________________________
    
    LEVEL 19:
    Class Selected: Bard (Bard 15 / Fighter 2 / Rogue 2)
    Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (22), Concentration +2 (8), 
    Disable Device +1 (22), Perform +1 (22), Search +1 (22), UMD +1 (22)
    ________________________________________________________________
    
    LEVEL 20:
    Class Selected: Bard (Bard 16 / Fighter 2 / Rogue 2)
    Abilities Raised: STR: 26
    Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (23), Concentration +2 (10), 
    Disable Device +1 (23), Perform +1 (23), Search +1 (23), UMD +1 (23)
    Equipment Mods Changed To: HP: 75, SP: 350, 
    STR: 6, DEX: 6, CON: 9, WIS: 7, CHA: 6, FORT: 140, REFL: 10
    Enhancements Selected: Fighter Toughness I, 
    Improved Perform I, Human Improved Recovery I, Bard Lingering Song I, 
    Bard Charisma I, Racial Toughness I, Bard Extra Song I, 
    Rogue Sneak Attack Training I, Bard Song Magic I, Bard Lyric of Song I, 
    Bard Extra Song II, Improved Perform II, Fighter Critical Accuracy I, 
    Human Improved Recovery II, Racial Toughness II, Bard Lingering Song II, 
    Bard Extra Song III, Bard Lyric of Incredible Song I, 
    Rogue Wand and Scroll Mastery I, Rogue Improved Trap Sense I, 
    Bard Inspired Damage I, Bard Inspired Attack I, Bard Extra Song IV, 
    Bard Music of the Dead, Human Improved Recovery III, 
    Bard Music of the Makers, Bard Virtuoso I, Bard Lyric of Song II, 
    Bard Charisma II, Bard Virtuoso II, Bard Lingering Song III, 
    Bard Lyric of Incredible Song II, Bard Lyric of Song III, 
    Bard Song Magic II, Bard Song Magic III, Human Adaptability Strength I, 
    Fighter Strength I, Fighter Attack Boost I, Fighter Haste Boost I, 
    Human Versatility I, Fighter Armored Agility I
    Stats at End of Level 20:
    HP:483 SP:1015 AC:13 FORT:157 REFL:26 WILL:14 BAB:+15/+15/+20/+25
    STR:34(+12) DEX:17(+3) CON:28(+9) INT:14(+2) WIS:19(+4) CHA:26(+8)
    Balance:27, Bluff:12, Concentration:19, Diplomacy:12, 
    Disable Device:25, Haggle:8, Heal:4, Hide:4, Intimidate:10, 
    Jump:17, Listen:8, Move Silently:4, Open Lock:12, Perform:37, 
    Repair:2, Search:25, Spot:8, Swim:14, Tumble:8, UMD:31
    Feats list since the forum quote is white and hard to read:
    Cleave
    Empower Healing Spell
    Great Cleave
    Greater Two-Handed Fighting
    Improved Critical (Slashing)
    Improved Two-Handed Fighting
    Maximize Spell
    Past Life (Berserkers Fury)
    Power Attack
    Two-Handed Fighting

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