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    Default For those that still think druids are gimp

    I started this solo EE crusade because I got declined a few times on Sarlona stating that druids are useless in most cases and I noticed the same statement on the forums.
    So I just wanted to show that druids can actually be powerful and they are not entirely gimp as opposed to what most people think of them. I am well aware that these EEs have been soloed before by many people but I have never seen any druid do them in this subforum yet, which is the reason why I am posting this.

    I also want to mention that I have soloed these EEs without any reentry and using minimal SP pots ( 3 maximum in 'Reclaiming the rift' ) and no hirelings.

    Yes I am in the Shiradi Champion destiny but hey, this is pretty much the ONLY decent destiny for a caster druid, as opposed to arcanes who have draconic incarnation, magister. Please don't say 'Primal avatar', because this is actually the worst destiny ever made because of all the bugs in it

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    EVENINGSTAR CHAIN 1

    EE Impossible demands.
    Not difficult if you know what you are doing.
    http://imageshack.us/a/img42/8149/im...ledemands1.png
    http://imageshack.us/a/img138/2676/i...ledemands2.png

    EE Unquiet graves
    Again, not hard if you know what you are doing.
    http://imageshack.us/a/img109/2082/unquietgraves1.png
    http://imageshack.us/a/img823/4003/unquietgraves2.png

    EE The lost thread
    Surprisingly easy.
    http://imageshack.us/a/img12/5525/thelostthread1.png
    http://imageshack.us/a/img802/5894/thelostthread2.png

    EE Battle for Eveningstar
    This one was quite challenging, especially the end fight, which was a 9-10 minutes of kiting. Used 2 SP pots.
    http://imageshack.us/a/img854/5787/b...eningstar1.png
    http://imageshack.us/a/img842/3639/b...eningstar2.png

    EVERNINGSTAR CHAIN 2

    EE House of rusted blades
    I felt it would be too easy if I pulled the boss only in the corner, so I decided to fight all the trash and the boss in the middle at the same time.
    http://imageshack.us/a/img819/8826/h...tedblades1.png
    http://imageshack.us/a/img713/9661/h...tedblades2.png

    EE House of broken chain
    Easy if you have good CC, but the end fight can get messy when you fight in the middle of the room.
    http://imageshack.us/a/img7/3668/hou...okenchain1.png
    http://imageshack.us/a/img20/8783/ho...okenchain2.png

    EE House of death undone
    Killed the mistress for fun and giggles, otherwise this quest is not really difficult to solo.
    http://imageshack.us/a/img198/795/ho...athundone1.png
    http://imageshack.us/a/img255/9950/h...athundone2.png

    EE Portal opens
    The driders that trip you are really annoying and can kill you if you are not paying attention.
    http://imageshack.us/a/img703/4671/portalopens1.png
    http://imageshack.us/a/img802/9921/portalopens2.png

    EVENINGSTAR CHAIN 3

    EE Trial by fury
    I did a few optionals for fun too, I thought it'd be cheap to take the shortcut straight to the boss. The boss hurts a lot but easy overall if you pay attention.
    http://imageshack.us/a/img199/8196/trialbyfury1.png
    http://imageshack.us/a/img818/3139/trialbyfury2.png

    EE The deal and the demon
    Surprisingly harder than I thought. The mistresses and mages were annoying. The end boss hurts a lot as well.
    http://imageshack.us/a/img11/8964/dealandthedemon1.png
    http://imageshack.us/a/img254/589/dealandthedemon2.png

    EE Reclaiming the rift
    This one is a pain in the butt for a caster that is not using the shrine outside the quest ( reentry ). I fought everything in the middle so earthquakes helpled a lot. Again, I hate the driders very much and the bebilith has so much HP. Took me 3 attempts.
    http://imageshack.us/a/img716/5649/r...ngtherift1.png
    http://imageshack.us/a/img839/619/re...ngtherift2.png

    EVENINGSTAR SIDE QUESTS

    EE Don't drink the water
    I cannot DDoor, so I had to fight in the pit with the dragon. He hurts a lot but it is possible.
    http://imageshack.us/a/img17/7233/do...kthewater1.png
    http://imageshack.us/a/img203/9646/d...kthewater2.png

    EE In the belly of the beast
    Surprisingly easy. Earthquake was very useful for the CC considering the incredible amount of mobs. Oh and I didn't fight on the ledge, I fought down in the pit like a real man
    http://imageshack.us/a/img842/2681/i...fthebeast1.png
    http://imageshack.us/a/img823/1249/i...fthebeast2.png

    THE DRUID'S DEEP

    EE Thorn and paw
    The druids were annoying because they remove all AOE effects and bears hurt a lot. Other than that it is not that difficult. I forgot the floor crumbles near the shrine, which is the reason why I got a death
    http://imageshack.us/a/img812/4010/thornandpaw1.png
    http://imageshack.us/a/img10/2517/thornandpaw2.png

    EE Overgrowth
    Moderately challenging. The way to the boss was much harder than the actual boss.
    http://imageshack.us/a/img585/5927/overgrowth1.png
    http://imageshack.us/a/img5/7991/overgrowth2.png

    EE Outbreak
    Pretty easy quest except the end boss who is extremely difficult. He runs so fast, he has a lot of hp and he hurts bad. He surprised me and killed me, but I got lucky there is a shrine near the boss.
    http://imageshack.us/a/img826/9079/outbreak1.png
    http://imageshack.us/a/img716/1296/outbreak2u.png

    EE The druid's curse
    All the quest is quite easy except the end fight. It can get messy when the boss transforms into animal but it is manageable if you have good cc. Died 2 times at end fight because of earthquakes ( how ironic coming from a caster druid ) from the boss shaped into human form but thank you dog for grabbing my stone and taking me to shrine
    http://imageshack.us/a/img713/521/thedruidscurse1.png
    http://imageshack.us/a/img213/4859/thedruidscurse2.png

    THE HIGH ROAD

    EE Rest stop
    I thought it would be a cakewalk but it was surprisingly difficult. As a druid, I could not channel holy energy nor arcane energy into the staff pieces so I had to die 2 times grabbing the pieces in order to kill the first boss. I thank my dog again for taking my stone to the shrine 2 times.
    http://imageshack.us/a/img818/301/reststop1.png
    http://imageshack.us/a/img89/9700/reststop2w.png

    EE Lost in the swamp
    Not really difficult overall, except the earth elementals at the end fight that are quite annoying.
    http://imageshack.us/a/img10/5052/lostintheswamp1.png
    http://imageshack.us/a/img33/1729/losttheinswamp2.png

    EE A stay at the inn
    Not really difficult if you have good CC at the beginning and the other parts of the quests were pretty straightforward. The end boss is overrated if you fight him upstair.
    http://imageshack.us/a/img7/6720/astayatinn1.png
    http://imageshack.us/a/img18/8695/astayatinn2.png

    EE Detour
    I completed this one but I used too many SP potions to post it here as an achievement. The end boss is not really difficult, but it was the million archers on the way that you have to kill one by one because Benson cannot move forward if the way is not entirely clear. It costs too much SP for a caster druid to kill that many single targets, especially archers that have crazy reflex saves.

    EE End of the road
    I managed to reach the end boss but could not complete. The spike traps at the end hurt too much when he pushes you up in the air and I don't see any possible way to complete it as a pure druid without evasion, unless there is an exploit that I am not aware of. Plus he is extremely resistant to cold and immune to fire, which are the 2 main elements of a caster druid.

    RANDOM QUEST

    EE Offering of blood
    Again, not really difficult if you have good CC and the end boss is quite squishy. I even skipped the first shrine.
    http://imageshack.us/a/img197/9149/oob1.png
    http://imageshack.us/a/img12/939/oob2.png

    EE Devil's assault
    I managed to reach the third phase, but my spells are very weak there. I can CC everything no problem but considering the 2 main elements of a druid caster are fire and cold and everything there is immune to fire and extremely resistant to cold, I could not keep up with the damage versus SP.

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    It was great fun overall and I hope you have better appreciation of the druid's potential
    Oh and sorry for my english, I am french canadian
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    Very nicely done indeed. +1

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    Love it! +1. I had thought the two best Druid destinies were Angel or Draconic though? I'm not there yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangine View Post
    I started this solo EE crusade because I got declined a few times on Sarlona stating that druids are useless in most cases and I noticed the same statement on the forums.
    There are a lot of stupid people who play this game.

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    Default end of the road

    you can just stay at the spot where you drop down and dot the boss, will take awhile but will avoid the traps this way. also the boss does anti gravity every 20 seconds (i think) so you can time running in and out of fighting him

    grats on the runs
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    You can probably go back in Zonixx's twitch.tv archive and watch how he does the End of the Road end fight. There are places you can stand and not end up getting dropped on spikes. Still one of the tougher pre-U17 end fights though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arminius View Post
    Love it! +1. I had thought the two best Druid destinies were Angel or Draconic though? I'm not there yet.
    Draconic incarnation is trash for druids except for "Precise casting" that gives you +2 evocation dcs, but it is a tier 2 so you can easily twist it. Energy burst and dragon breath, which are the 2 main sources of dps of a DI caster, take int or cha modifier for the dc, so the mobs will always save on EE if you have low int/cha thus it is not really useful for a druid. Plus, the passive stats increase are int or cha, which are 2 almost useless stats for a druid caster.

    Exalted angel is only good if you want to be the healer of the party. On the other hand, it provides good boost to your light spells, but druids only have 1 decent light spell and it is only useful on undeads or oozes, so exalted angel is not a good destiny if you want to play a non-healer druid.

    Shiradi is definetly the best destiny for a caster druid because it gives you +1 Druid and Ranger caster level per level of Shiradi Champion and something like +30 spellpower overall. Also, the passive stats increase are wisdom and dex, so you can pump your wisdom a bit to boost your dcs. Pin helps a lot on the cc and the procs are nice too even if your spells obviously don't proc as much as magic missiles, chain missle, force missiles and prismatic spray that wizs and sorcs have.
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    Congrats to you. I never thought druids were gimp until I built one so I may be giving them a bad name
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    I said this to you yesterday, and I'll repeat it: you're a fricking beast. Join my ee parties anytime
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    Every class has ways it can shine, it's up to the players to find those ways and buff them to brilliance.

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    Default Good job Xoska

    Beau travail!

    Comme d'habitude tu réussi toujours a me surprendre!

    Epic elite sur un Druid wow juste wow!

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    Default shiradi nonsense.. Primal ftw

    Primal is a fantastic Druid destiny. It is the way to max out wisdom and thus have the most powerful earthquake. with this spell you can immobilize any mob there is and then kill it with the sacrificial dagger (in wolf form).

    whosoever thinks druids are gimped is utterly stupid. It's like when rangers used to get declined from groups. Ha ha. Rangers are without doubt one of the most powerful and self sufficient classes in the game

    I really dont see what the fuss about shiradi is on casters. its utter s**te. People seem to have a herd mentality and just copy whatever everyone else is doing regardless of how good it actually is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frupup View Post
    Primal is a fantastic Druid destiny. It is the way to max out wisdom and thus have the most powerful earthquake. with this spell you can immobilize any mob there is and then kill it with the sacrificial dagger (in wolf form).
    Play EN a lot, do you? Mobs on eH and eE resist stat drain and recover it like crazy, so items that rely on stat drain are essentially useless.

    You can max out wisdom with Shiradi just as well. The only really *worthwhile* abilities in Primal Avatar are the Epic Moment transformation (which is worthless if you're a caster druid) and Rejuvenation Cocoon.

    I really dont see what the fuss about shiradi is on casters. its utter s**te. People seem to have a herd mentality and just copy whatever everyone else is doing regardless of how good it actually is.
    Shiradi adds damage procs to spells that can make them do ENORMOUS amounts of bonus damage--several TIMES what the spell itself ordinarily does if it is a spell that induces a lot of ticks like, say, ice storm or firewall or magic missile. THAT is why everybody is using it--a caster with shiradi does 3-4x as much damage as any other build.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoBlonde View Post
    Play EN a lot, do you? Mobs on eH and eE resist stat drain and recover it like crazy, so items that rely on stat drain are essentially useless.

    You can max out wisdom with Shiradi just as well. The only really *worthwhile* abilities in Primal Avatar are the Epic Moment transformation (which is worthless if you're a caster druid) and Rejuvenation Cocoon.



    Shiradi adds damage procs to spells that can make them do ENORMOUS amounts of bonus damage--several TIMES what the spell itself ordinarily does if it is a spell that induces a lot of ticks like, say, ice storm or firewall or magic missile. THAT is why everybody is using it--a caster with shiradi does 3-4x as much damage as any other build.
    Actually primal avatar still gets a higher wisdom, and for the epic moment it still works better than a fury manyshot with a 12 strength. As for shiradi's doing 3-4x as much damage as any build, no. People play shiradi's because dc casting needs a few more points to it's dc's, so shiradi is more efficient in most ways. Dc casting is still viable just people can get cc/instakills/damage out of spamming mm. Shiradi is not much better than a regular sorc for damage, or even better than a cc/insta kill wizard. It is nice however on a druid for earthquake/ice storms since you can spec wisdom in shiradi. But, 3-4x the damage? no

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    so my last response was takin down because I discribed how Exploit works so... I guess I will say there is a exploit from day 1 that makes druids BEYOND Over powered that is still being used right now so any druid soloing anything is not a shocker. anyone who says druids are gimp when atm and until it gets fixed are the most powerful class and can solo any raid or epic atm. I have no clue if the OP is using this exploit and I am not saying he is. just saying don't be shocked also do not be shocked if any arty or ranger solo's anything with.... well better not tell you how they due it because I do not want to get into trouble.



    Please Devs fix these exploits takes away the achievements from the people who actually earned these achievements.

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    After all the evidence... They are still gimp, esp when wearing the gimp suit.
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    Druids are fun to play if you understand them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by moo_cow View Post
    Actually primal avatar still gets a higher wisdom, and for the epic moment it still works better than a fury manyshot with a 12 strength. As for shiradi's doing 3-4x as much damage as any build, no. People play shiradi's because dc casting needs a few more points to it's dc's, so shiradi is more efficient in most ways. Dc casting is still viable just people can get cc/instakills/damage out of spamming mm. Shiradi is not much better than a regular sorc for damage, or even better than a cc/insta kill wizard. It is nice however on a druid for earthquake/ice storms since you can spec wisdom in shiradi. But, 3-4x the damage? no
    earthquake+ice storm, both 30 secs spells, in shiradi that means they're dead

    try to do the same, with that sp, with a sorc,wiz/druid/whoever without being shiradi

    and dc is viable? ofc, just need far more sp(because with 66dc u still need to drain lvls, of course, just if you aren't doing pre u16 quests, whose saves are quite low atm)

    shiradi is the way to go for soloing, primal is the way to go for exploiting, rest caster ED's just are a waste of sp
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