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    Quote Originally Posted by Gkar View Post
    I'll own this one. Neg repped for rep farming. Saying you received negative rep is not permitted as per past posts from Mods. Of particular note was their comment at the time that most people who said that were lying and hadn't been neg repped at all.
    At least you owned it. I was neg repped. Wasn't farming and I don't have any history of doing so. Look at the context of the post. As a long time active poster on these forums, I would hope you would know that.
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    Does this mean the in-game browser is also going away?
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    I wish you would keep the lotteries. It's one of the things I look forward to the most when I do my forum browsing. I dislike the idea of having to utilize other forms of social media to interact with the game.

    The rest of the changes seem to make sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tolero View Post
    [...]After the upgrade, you will use your DDO game login credentials to log into the forums, and your current forum name will become your display nickname.[...]
    So if I want to stay an active community member but at the same time want to minimize the risk of my account being hacked I'll have to create a dummy ddo account just for the sake of being able to continue posting on the forums?

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    The only good thing in all of this would be if we could change our freaking forum name. Aside from that, I think this is a really bad idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by extraocular View Post
    A question to the security literate on the ddo forums. If these changes go through as is, what’s the best way to prevent identity theft and credit card issues? Not a security expert myself I am trying to understand what my options are.
    Get a prepaid card, or start using steam connected DDO and use steam wallet for points.
    They'll always be able to get your name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tolero View Post

    Forums

    The forums are going to be upgraded to a newer version of vBulletin. After the upgrade, you will use your DDO game login credentials to log into the forums, and your current forum name will become your display nickname.
    The Good: vBulletin update is long over due. Looking forward to seeing the new graphics.

    The Bad: Using our DDO game login credentials to log into the forums is an unnecessary breach of our privacy/security. This is a very, very bad idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tolero View Post
    We will be adding a new forum home page that includes forum category navigation and feeds of recent turbine announcements/recent player discussions.
    The Bad: Nag screen "BUY ASTRAL DIAMONDS TODAY!" "BUY TURBINE POINTS!" ViP users should be able to bypass this screen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tolero View Post
    We will also be opening individual class forums again.
    It's about time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tolero View Post
    The reputation system will be revamped to allow only positive reputation to be issued.
    This is a good move, if we still must have reputation to begin with. But since it ain't gonna change...

    The GOOD: There was no need for negative rep. It was just used to troll, with no benefit to the community at large. If you don't like something someone says, move on. I still like the positive rep because it boosts morale for new forumites. For vets that have a full bar of green, it means nothing.

    The Bad: I liked it better before reputation, but a plus only system is much better than what we had.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tolero View Post
    Our bug reporting system is being revamped. Soon you will no longer need a forum login in order to submit bug reports, and we will be able to process bug reports more quickly. We will update the bug reporting links as soon as the new system is available. Please continue to use the existing bug reporting tool until the new one is in place, as we are still reviewing bugs submitted through it.
    The Amused: That's just funny. Will this really matter? If the suits & bean counters decide what gets fixed and what stays broken, why even have a QA team? Or a better bug reporting tool??

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    The DDO Compendium will be discontinued. We will be migrating official guides to the updated DDO.com website. Users with guides or guild pages in the Compendium should migrate their content to another location, such as the guides or recruitment forums.

    MyDDO

    Several MyDDO components will be moving to DDO.com or retiring. Details are as follows:
    With the great community work in the DDOwiki, the Compendium had no chance. You should have done this long ago.

    MyDDO was in limbo for too long. It was a bit too intrusive on other people's toons, and a relic compared to Neverwinter's nifty new Gateway, which will allow in game mail, guild leader tools, and guild quest/raid schedules to be available ANYWHERE on any mobile device.

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    The current player blog functionality will be discontinued.. For a guide to how to export your blog, click here!
    People need to know exactly how much time they have to remove their content.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tolero View Post
    The lottery system will also be discontinued. We will be focusing on giving prizes via other mediums such as forum and social media giveaways.
    All Facebook/social media prizes should be available on the DDO forums for those who do not wish to share their game life with their family, friends and people they don't know throughout the world. I know this is the wave of the future, but Turbine should keep things seperate for those who wish not to share social media information.


    Conclusion:

    I'm happy to see some of the changes, and sad to realize how many hundreds/thousands of payroll hours were just wasted over this years decisions alone by those who were not part of the team when the game was first realized. Good luck with the changes and hope you've increased your forum DR, you're gonna need it Tolero!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gizeh View Post
    So if I want to stay an active community member but at the same time want to minimize the risk of my account being hacked I'll have to create a dummy ddo account just for the sake of being able to continue posting on the forums?
    It's more or less what I'm planning to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tolero View Post
    The forums are going to be upgraded to a newer version of vBulletin. After the upgrade, you will use your DDO game login credentials to log into the forums, and your current forum name will become your display nickname. You will retain all of your existing posting history, reputation, etc. If you're new to the forums, you'll be able to select a display nickname the first time you log into the forums with your game credentials...
    The above is non-negotiable for me. Downgraded my main account to premium. Submitted tickets to remove my credit card information from my main account and my secondary premium account.

    If Turbine wants me to spend money on their entertainment, I had better feel damn safe with their security protocols. The above announcement makes me feel very insecure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziindarax View Post
    I, for one, DO NOT WANT TO BE USING THE SAME ACCOUNT INFORMATION FOR LOGGING IN THE FORUMS AS I DO FOR THE GAME!!!
    /signed.

    If you are going to do this then i want a mobile authenticator. This is the only game that does not have one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thingodoom View Post
    Could we please get an official response on what Turbine/WB plans to do about account security?
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    I am sorry but if your making it a positive system only why not do away with it since with a positive system only the whole thing is even more pointless than it is now. And I dont like the shared log in thing had bad experiences with it. I guess my fourm days are numbered.


    Thanks for killing the fourms and lotto for me

    I guess I will never make Hero of the people and 20k posts and will be just at over 18k

    I like about zero of the changes
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    Can we have our fourm accounts killed I dont want to participate in the coming nonsense of bad security and social media

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    I wonder if we'll see server merger details next...

    This has been a pretty bad year, well starting in fall '12 with the Turbine layoffs.

    I say Turbine explains the enhancement/UI in detail and gives us (anyone who has lammania access gets to vote) a flat up/down vote to green light or red light the project. I'm afraid if that job blows up/backfires, that could be the first major blow to the playerbase here, in a way that will make 2009 look like a banner year.
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    I'm fine with all but one of these changes, personally...

    I'm afraid I have to join in with all the others who don't like the password thing, though. If I'm going to have to use the same password for the game and the forums, that will end my time on the forums. It seems a bit odd to me, in this world of data security consciousness, that you'd intentionally take such a risk. I don't care how good your security is or is going to be, there's always someone better coming up with a new way of doing things.

    This is not intended to be a 'threat' (nor could it be with only 180+ posts in 3 years lol) but there's no way I'll ever use my game log in to access the forums.

    And if this is going to be such a change as to be done whether I like it or not... As in, if my username and password will be slid over to the forums so that it's the same even if I never log in on the forums, then that's going to cause another problem. I love this game and have no desire to give it up... But I like my privacy and data security more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOgre View Post
    1) Killing character/guild/API functionality is a bad thing. Instead, invest some time into the API such that external sites/devs can continue to provide the excellent 3rd party tools we all know and love. Please, reconsider.

    2) single login for forums and game is a bad thing. I can understand the desire to eliminate dupe accounts, ban-bypassing, etc... but creating a single access point for potential security threats is a mistake.

    3) not need to login in order to submit bug reports is a bad thing. It seems to me you're inviting spam/false reports. You WANT to be able to track bug reports by login, and you WANT to pre-validate the reporters.
    I like all your points. I'd like to see them try Neverwinter's concept of handles. It would actually add features to the game (being able to tell everyone's alts are, great utility for guild leaders), be just as effective at eliminating dupe accounts/ban-bypassin, and provide far more security than this maniacal idea of sharing forum/in-game names. All while keeping game log in & account information, and forum names separate...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Uska View Post
    Thanks for killing the fourms and lotto for me
    Yeah Uska, we have a few guildies that do the lotto. Shame.
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    Class Forums again - yes!

    Revamped Bug Reporting tool - thank you!!

    MyDDO - Glad to see it go. Most of it never worked the way anyone wanted to and was a source of problems, glad to see it gone - crucibled for good. Sorry to see the Lottery go, did visit every day...


    I hope that support for Fansites will be sooner rather then later.


    Finally, linked account/forums. Don't like it at all. Prefer security over posting. I would be far less inclined to login to the forums and post if I had to use my game account info to do so.

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    I think it's really weird that Turbine is deciding to do this with the DDO forums. It sounds to me like they are now going to be more like the LOTRO forums, which are incredibly buggy and universally hated by all forum users (it's impossible to stay logged in, for instance).

    LOTRO has also had the same login for forums and game for ever, and that is also something that is universally hated, but Turbine has never shown any concern or awareness that this might be a problem.

    Even more curiously, recently they announced on the LOTRO side that a forum revamp is in the works for this year, but haven't given any details. I wonder if DDO is the guinea pig again...

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