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    Recently, a couple of bardchers have been rolled and are now lvling to 25 following my build I posted on the forums, that means once they are ready it will be time once we got a few more, for bardcher only EE easyruns.

    I know there is hate on bardchers, but be happy if you hate us. When we can easily complete like, uh, everything with bardchers only we won't be as often in your groups anymore! As the bardcher is a very versatile toon that can do/spec in like everything.

    Would you be interested in rolling a bardcher to join our bardcher only runs, PM me ingame on:
    (Kevenia/Shinweng/Abaranda/Ainevek). Right now I know of like 5 or 6 'Kevenia-alike Bardchers' with 2 or 3 being rolled soon as well, and at least 4 or 5 bardchers using (almost) the same class split but a total other build. Both types will be welcome in these runs and I might open a Userchannel for it once those Bardchers are rdy.

    Let the ownage of the bardchers begin!

    EDIT: For those interested: Here is the link to the build of Kevenia:
    http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=407232
    Last edited by keveniaftw; 03-25-2013 at 05:57 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by keveniaftw View Post
    Recently, a couple of bardchers have been rolled and are now lvling to 25 following my build I posted on the forums, that means once they are ready it will be time once we got a few more, for bardcher only EE easyruns.

    I know there is hate on bardchers, but be happy if you hate us. When we can easily complete like, uh, everything with bardchers only we won't be as often in your groups anymore! As the bardcher is a very versatile toon that can do/spec in like everything.

    Would you be interested in rolling a bardcher to join our bardcher only runs, PM me ingame on:
    (Kevenia/Shinweng/Abaranda/Ainevek). Right now I know of like 5 or 6 'Kevenia-alike Bardchers' with 2 or 3 being rolled soon as well, and at least 4 or 5 bardchers using (almost) the same class split but a total other build. Both types will be welcome in these runs and I might open a Userchannel for it once those Bardchers are rdy.

    Let the ownage of the bardchers begin!
    I lost the link to the build... can u pm me ? XD
    Ty a lot man XD
    And a +1 for your build!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nephilia View Post
    I lost the link to the build... can u pm me ? XD
    Ty a lot man XD
    And a +1 for your build!
    Posted the link in OP :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by keveniaftw View Post
    Posted the link in OP :-)
    Ty a lot man
    And look at the little present in honor of your build :P
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    'Where do they teach you to post like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here. '

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartywinz View Post
    'Where do they teach you to post like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here. '
    Unfortunatly for you, your opinion and maybe the opinion of a couple of your friends/guildies about a bardcher is nowhere near the opinion of the rest of DDO. A player from a guild you consider 'a good guild' recently praised my build after the 4th or 5th time we ran together.

    The funny thing is that you can in no case 'talk' about my build if you never run with it. If you don't want to run with a bardcher? Fine, it's your loss.

    I never, ever said that a bardcher is 'the best DPS' or anything. But the Bardcher is such a versatile build that you can run like every quest with a group of it: Proper defenses (permanent displacement), decent selfheals (over 300 with a scroll), high burst DPS (manyshot/fury), good CC (enthrallment/capering works great with pin), decent melee DPS (TWF, THF for adren overloads) including cleave and great cleave, decent trap skills (both my search and disable device are 60ish, good UMD (tensers etc without alot UMD gear) and of course the bard songs that give +5 attack and damage, your own haste without excessive pots/clickies.

    If you want to ED farm dun'robar, nothing better than have a bardcher. He has haste, sprint, ddoor and manyshot burst DPS. Also the bardcher works fine in several destinies:

    Fury: Main destiny. HP, adrens, instincts (+6 search), sense weakness, and selfheals
    Shiradi: I bet you can figure that for yourself.
    Dreadnought: Melee DPS, boosts for manyshot, works great to go THF with eAGA for instance.
    Shadowdancer: Slightly less viable but you can get the max out your rogueish skills
    Fatesinger: Great song increase, arrow damage increase and of course epic moment + manyshot
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    Two handed chruchers, Ghallanda

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    Quote Originally Posted by keveniaftw View Post
    Unfortunatly for you, your opinion and maybe the opinion of a couple of your friends/guildies about a bardcher is nowhere near the opinion of the rest of DDO.
    The same rest of DDO that thinks diploing a chest gets better loot? yeah you can keep bragging on that!

    Go Team Ranger Bard!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartywinz View Post
    The same rest of DDO that thinks diploing a chest gets better loot? yeah you can keep bragging on that!

    Go Team Ranger Bard!
    Keep on bragging that you ran a raid on EE that has been solo'ed on the same difficulty
    Keep on bragging about soloing that same raid on EE, while just trying to rickroll people
    And keep on intimidating chests to get better loot, of course diplo doesn't work
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    I sense much greatness in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by keveniaftw View Post
    Keep on bragging that you ran a raid on EE that has been solo'ed on the same difficulty
    Keep on bragging about soloing that same raid on EE, while just trying to rickroll people
    And keep on intimidating chests to get better loot, of course diplo doesn't work

    No one really posts EE solo fot completions anymore its to common.

    It would be like taking hirelings along on EE completion and saying it was a "solo" or not counting re-entries. Today's generation of players is sliding so far down hill ;/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartywinz View Post
    No one really posts EE solo fot completions anymore its to common.

    It would be like taking hirelings along on EE completion and saying it was a "solo" or not counting re-entries. Today's generation of players is sliding so far down hill ;/
    I agree that re-entering/deaths is no longer a real solo.
    It all depends on hat class you solo with whether it's an achievement. Solo EE the tide turns on a shiradi sorc is incredibly easy, and no achievement. Soloing it on a melee or an AA is not so easy. I would be impressed if a 'not shiradi' sorc solo's it without using any pots at all perhaps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by keveniaftw View Post
    I know there is hate on bardchers, but be happy if you hate us.
    http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=407232
    I'm not sure that you've got the source of the hatred you've experienced quite nailed down yet.

    p.s. Spartywinz is my hero.
    Last edited by yun_chang; 03-25-2013 at 05:00 PM. Reason: was confusing, is less confusing now(?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by yun_chang View Post
    I'm not sure that you've got the source of the hatred you've experienced quite nailed down yet.

    p.s. Spartywinz is my hero.
    Sparty is Crippey? You mean that? I know who hates the Bardchers, it is several people from 3 (or 4?). Do I honestly look like I care what these guys think of bardchers? I have more than enough people to run my stuff with...
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    Some ppl just love attention

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    alight a torch... trolls do fear fire!
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    What depresses me about reading this deluded garbage is that the people who have created something properly original are incredibly modest about it. Other people might praise them, but by and large they don't seek the adulation of others.

    I can confirm it's no loss not to run without a bardcher. I'm doing remarkably well without one anywhere near my lfms.

    What you wrongly choose to misconstrue as "build envy" is infact a dislike for your childishly self aggrandising need for attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadlock View Post
    I can confirm it's no loss not to run without a bardcher. I'm doing remarkably well without one anywhere near my lfms.
    What about "unoriginal" Korean or Finnish bardchers ? They must have followed the build too !
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    Quote Originally Posted by keveniaftw View Post
    Sparty is Crippey?
    Not sure how calling Spartywinz my hero implies that he is Crippey.
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    You mean that?
    Seeing as how I never said anything like that, no I don't mean it.
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    I know who hates the Bardchers
    Then why are you asking me who Crippey is?
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    it is several people from 3 (or 4?).
    Good work figuring out "who" hates bardchers, my point was that the question you should be now asking yourself is "why".
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    Do I honestly look like I care what these guys think of bardchers?
    Yes, you do look like that, honestly.
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    I have more than enough people to run my stuff with...
    Good for you, now you can stop bothering people in channels where you feel hated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadlock View Post
    What depresses me about reading this deluded garbage is that the people who have created something properly original are incredibly modest about it. Other people might praise them, but by and large they don't seek the adulation of others.

    I can confirm it's no loss not to run without a bardcher. I'm doing remarkably well without one anywhere near my lfms.

    What you wrongly choose to misconstrue as "build envy" is infact a dislike for your childishly self aggrandising need for attention.
    Wrong, wrong, wrong. For instance the juggernaut, an incredible build and in my opinion better than the bardcher. Do you think Haek is modest about that build? No. Does he have to be? No, because it's an incredible build and it's often copied. Same for several other builds

    On the other hand. Did I ever stated this is the 'zomgz best build ever'? No, I stated that it is a versatile build and you can run like anything with 6 (or 12) of these without it being too hard. Which is why people are welcome to roll bardchers.

    You might ask why if I agree a juggernaut is better, don't roll a jugg. Simple, because I like the flavor of this build. Maybe even because I myself designed the build and I don't like copying others. I never said that anyone 'envies' my build. I stated that people who never ran with one shouldn't judge the build.

    As a last point, of course you do not need a bardcher in your runs, neither does it hurt to have one. Quests are easy either way. But let's keep it just very easy, PM your toons to me ingame and I won't bother to group with you...
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    Quote Originally Posted by yun_chang View Post
    Not sure how calling Spartywinz my hero implies that he is Crippey.
    Seeing as how I never said anything like that, no I don't mean it.
    Then why are you asking me who Crippey is?
    Good work figuring out "who" hates bardchers, my point was that the question you should be now asking yourself is "why".
    Yes, you do look like that, honestly.
    Good for you, now you can stop bothering people in channels where you feel hated.
    You attempt to roll versus sarcasm. You roll a 19 (-50). Save failure!
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