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    Smile old school farm

    also of note, the epic ring of elemental essence farmed by scroll seal shard from the house p carny chain is another 5 elemental resist that stacks with every thing already mentioned in this thread

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    +1 great job thanks for taking the time to put this together.

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    Fantastic writeup.
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    very good guide ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infant View Post
    Great guide!

    I have a question, since I was assigned to the Stormreaver several times:



    Is there a way to kite the Stormreaver such that cone-shaped area of his lightning infection doesnt hit the party? From my experience, whenever I tried to kite him, at some points of time he was turned towards the party. And if he decided to cast his infection cone at this time, party members got infected. Therefore I had to stand in the corner and shield-block/dot him, which drains the absorbtion charges rather fast, since he tends to cast the bomb more often when tanked.

    Thanks again for this excellent guide!
    It's a line attack, not a cone. I had the bolt of lightning wiz past me a few times last night without getting zapped. The line can go the length of the room though so its best to keep the reaver facing away from everyone else (like at a wall).
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    Nicely written Goodthings. Thanks for the advice filled guide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_wizards View Post
    The Fall of Truth version 17.1 Complete Guide

    Hi everyone and thanks for reading.

    Patch 17.1 brought some major changes to the Fall of Truth raid making it a lot more fun and interesting by making the party pay a heavy price for making mistakes. Having to be on the ball and careful while reacting quickly and adapting is what I believe makes a raid great. I loved it in LoB and I now love it in FoT.
    I am guess you and I have different opinions of what makes a raid fun! First I like to thank you for posting this great walkthrough for the raid, it is very interesting as you had stated.

    Personally most of my characters are Favored Soul and Clerics, and I will not run certain raids do to the fact I don’t generally run with a pack of uber players. I am a casual player who plays the game to have fun and chat with my friends, I have also been a VIP for a few years and with the changes in the game I am serious considering leaving the game and I believe I am not the only one in this camp.

    I hate the way World of Warcraft conducts its raids and I am not sure why but DDO is starting to feel like I am playing WoW! Anyway I hope you enjoy playing WoW err DDO and all it raids, but I think I will pass!

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    Quote Originally Posted by khremlajn View Post
    excellent explanation.
    Already done it twice in more or less similar fashion.

    However, I dont buy that this is the way to avoid bomb attack(or more precisely - debuff).

    Look at abbot. U can ether jump into water(iceberg) or use lavender. Lets call 1st option the right one to do it.

    I believe that there should be an option to avoid the boom. After our last run someone suggested, that lightning strikes from globes that we know from reavers fate. Shouldn't it be possible to hide from it under the roof at the edge of area?
    Hi and thank you for you comment.
    Abbot, another raid I like a great deal, does indeed have several methods to deal with inferno however I do not believe this is not the case for FoT.

    Hugging the walls did not seem to shelter one from the lightning strike portion of the Stormreaver special attack. Furthermore the Stormreaver's initial attack as well as the virus jump occurrs latterly so shelter above your head would be useless.

    So far it seems that, like Mr Miagi said, best defense - don't be there, not in the Stormreaver's line of attack and not within range of anyone that has the virus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infant View Post
    Great guide!

    I have a question, since I was assigned to the Stormreaver several times:



    Is there a way to kite the Stormreaver such that cone-shaped area of his lightning infection doesnt hit the party? From my experience, whenever I tried to kite him, at some points of time he was turned towards the party. And if he decided to cast his infection cone at this time, party members got infected. Therefore I had to stand in the corner and shield-block/dot him, which drains the absorbtion charges rather fast, since he tends to cast the bomb more often when tanked.

    Thanks again for this excellent guide!
    Hi and thank you for your comment.
    Like others have answered this question it is possible to play hide and seek with the Stormreaver from side to side of a pillar in order to minimize contact and bomb attacks. One could also put on his spell absorption item on to avoid getting anymore debuffs within a minute once he is hit too much (same as for avoiding drow mistresses third stack of divine punishment). This can be done in order to stretch your defence for a longer period of time.

    Regarding keeping your party members out of harms way, if any party member is beating the Stormreaver's back they will get the virus as it arcs off the tank. In order to avoid having any party across the map from getting hit by the Stormreaver's attack it is best to have him face the wall and/or minimize the time he is facing the arena. If the tank has imp evasion, elect absorption and resistance then just standing fast with your back against the wall will do the trick (being flung by the stormreaver won't have much of an effect). If you need to avoid the hits then practice kiting the stormreaver from side to side of a pillar. Ideally the tank + ranged support should be able to prep the stormreaver and not just keep him in in check.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_wizards View Post
    Hi and thank you for you comment.
    Abbot, another raid I like a great deal, does indeed have several methods to deal with inferno however I do not believe this is not the case for FoT.

    Hugging the walls did not seem to shelter one from the lightning strike portion of the Stormreaver special attack. Furthermore the Stormreaver's initial attack as well as the virus jump occurrs latterly so shelter above your head would be useless.

    So far it seems that, like Mr Miagi said, best defense - don't be there, not in the Stormreaver's line of attack and not within range of anyone that has the virus
    Did a bit of thinking and few tests with guildie... and there is a better way.
    Observation: curse spread on the line of sight. If u put any obstacle between u and cursed person, u wont be affected.
    So this is how to use it:
    Stormreaver tank hug one of the pillars. Now it is similar to lob: every other melee is on reaver back and watch tank carefully. Once he get the curse, just do few steps to the left/right and hide behind pillar. That way curse wont be spread. Not only party lavenders wont be depleted quick, but also the only person in raid that actually need spell absorption is a tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by khremlajn View Post
    Did a bit of thinking and few tests with guildie... and there is a better way.
    Observation: curse spread on the line of sight. If u put any obstacle between u and cursed person, u wont be affected.
    So this is how to use it:
    Stormreaver tank hug one of the pillars. Now it is similar to lob: every other melee is on reaver back and watch tank carefully. Once he get the curse, just do few steps to the left/right and hide behind pillar. That way curse wont be spread. Not only party lavenders wont be depleted quick, but also the only person in raid that actually need spell absorption is a tank.
    Your idea is valid and would work in theory however it has great risk. Suffice that one party is late to get out of LOS and that person will act as a 3 second delay bomb for the rest of the party. Additionally should the reaver toss the tank and reset his agro he will be within 0 distance to a cluster of party members. I prefer to avoid risks and only take calculated ones when either I must or that the pay off for success out weighs the price of a mess up in a considerable way. Since the truthfully one requires a lot more work to prep then the reaver I don't see any point to have more then a tank + ranged support work the reaver.

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    tank wont loose agro. He will have wall at his backs, so reaver can only toss him a lil up.

    As for 1 party member beeing late... well.. thats when spell absorption comes in handy also late party member can hide as he will be the only one with curse. There r many possibilities. Also i dont find it as disadvantage... hard raid so ppl need to stay focus. I think that it gives more time to hide than during lob stun.

    The reason i like this way is it doesnt deny melees in this raid. So often i c lfms like: ranged only. For me its to admit that either we miss strategy, or our strategy is not so good...
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    Quote Originally Posted by khremlajn View Post
    tank wont loose agro. He will have wall at his backs, so reaver can only toss him a lil up.

    As for 1 party member beeing late... well.. thats when spell absorption comes in handy also late party member can hide as he will be the only one with curse. There r many possibilities. Also i dont find it as disadvantage... hard raid so ppl need to stay focus. I think that it gives more time to hide than during lob stun.


    The reason i like this way is it doesnt deny melees in this raid. So often i c lfms like: ranged only. For me its to admit that either we miss strategy, or our strategy is not so good...
    As I said it is a valid idea however I feel it carries unnecessary risks. There is no escaping the fact that ranged toons shine in this raid and there is nothing wrong with it either. There is plenty of room for melle even though it takes more skill to max out a melle's contribution for the dps on the dragons and especially the truthful one. Murphy is right, "if something can go wrong it will go wrong" or in the adaptation a friend used for ddo, "If there is a way to die a pug will find it"

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    Good guide OP, but you missed one vital thing on the Electrical Debuff;

    How to avoid it totally and without ANY gear what so ever.


    You ready? I'm going to give you a hint on how to do it and it is so easy, everyone in game can do it....

    Ready?

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    Shift.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hendrik View Post
    Good guide OP, but you missed one vital thing on the Electrical Debuff;

    How to avoid it totally and without ANY gear what so ever.


    You ready? I'm going to give you a hint on how to do it and it is so easy, everyone in game can do it....

    Ready?

    Here it is;


    Shift.

    Pretty sure I saw tanks in US ed continuously shield block in order to get the elemental absorption working and still get the debuffs. Thanks for the tip, I will test active blocking myself when back in game. Will be away for a few days though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_wizards View Post
    Pretty sure I saw tanks in US ed continuously shield block in order to get the elemental absorption working and still get the debuffs. Thanks for the tip, I will test active blocking myself when back in game. Will be away for a few days though.
    It does work. The hardest part about actively blocking the Breath of Lies, is visually seeing the trigger for the attack - VERY easy to miss with all that is going on. Active block is something I also wish to test out on some of the other special attacks done in the Raid.

    Shield blocking prevents special attacks. This was on my list of things to test back on the 19th, finally got around to it.

    Hope to do more extensive work with it tonight.

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    Excellent Guide.

    We did this yesterday on EH with 6 guildies and 6 pugs, using most of this strategy, only one death...both clerics finished with over 1000 sp. My cleric killed trash with her sp and maybe thru a couple mass cures.

    Our Reaver tank was a WF Wiz, whom I don't think I saw ever drop in health, and he pretty much had the Reaver Prepped all by himself.

    In fact, I use less resources on this raid so far than on the old version, as people play smarter
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    Quote Originally Posted by moops View Post
    Excellent Guide.

    We did this yesterday on EH with 6 guildies and 6 pugs, using most of this strategy, only one death...both clerics finished with over 1000 sp. My cleric killed trash with her sp and maybe thru a couple mass cures.

    Our Reaver tank was a WF Wiz, whom I don't think I saw ever drop in health, and he pretty much had the Reaver Prepped all by himself.

    In fact, I use less resources on this raid so far than on the old version, as people play smarter
    I'm glad to hear that!
    Writing the guide I was hoping to get more people to understand the raid and thus enjoy running it more.
    Good job on a near flawless run, I hope the loot was good as well, too often smooth runs are rewarded with skunked chests.

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    Heya,

    Small point, but valid I feel, as I (bow head in shame) cost us a hard run..Shiradi Sorc here..

    Somehow ended up tanking Stormreaver...popped him a few magic missiles as us Shiradi's do...oops...the fire proc from shiradi is like a dot...and it does not stop, even if you die...it was ticking for 500+ and yes, killed Stormreaver...I felt like a noob, but seriously did not know some shiradi procs are indefinite even if you die, and hit for quite a bit...

    Cheers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bergie View Post
    Heya,

    Small point, but valid I feel, as I (bow head in shame) cost us a hard run..Shiradi Sorc here..

    Somehow ended up tanking Stormreaver...popped him a few magic missiles as us Shiradi's do...oops...the fire proc from shiradi is like a dot...and it does not stop, even if you die...it was ticking for 500+ and yes, killed Stormreaver...I felt like a noob, but seriously did not know some shiradi procs are indefinite even if you die, and hit for quite a bit...

    Cheers...
    If you turn off the double rainbow stance, you won't proc the permadots.
    On my shiradi sorc I tend to toggle it on and off multiple times depending on what I'm shooting and if it's ready to die or needs to stay prepped.

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