I imagine its an attempt to segregate the community (again) into those who will use and purchase Astral Shards regularly and those who will just play the game (essentially for free). A sort of softening of the blows for the plain appreciators of the actual game - but it hasn't really worked in the longterm.
People leave the game because it has become a RMT powergamer's haven, and their attempts to disguise it hasn't really fooled anyone that might care.
I don't think I'm going to actively boycott it, because if I actively boycott all of their bad decisions, I'd have to go play another game. But I will be avoiding it, if for no other reason than the ridiculous fees. I do think it's a poor idea, but at least as a cash grab, it's pretty blatant. So that's better than a stealth cash grab.
But in terms of Things DDO Developers Do That Bother Me, this is pretty low on the list, especially when compared to the stupid or poorly-conceived rules and physics changes of the last year or so, and the move to FR.
I dont see how this is effecting us as a cash grab. If you look at the trade forums, people already offer TP codes, Expansion codes, and Ottos boxes with the exp stone in them to balance out trade offers for rare items.
How will this astral shard based Ah make it worse? The only thing I see here, is that they want to move astral diamonds and shard to being one step closer to the premium currency of the game. For a long time they were mostly ignored, then used as guild ship currency, then used as currecy for fancy repairs, now theyll become currency to offer for rare items, what other players are selling.
Its not that Turbine is effectively selling out raid loot, (what already happens when you look at the tomes in the store some says) its bartering between players.
Humm, I don't see an answer about where to crunch tomes into diamonds. That would be good to know info.
Just to add my point of view...I don't plan on boycotting it, but I also don't plan on posting anything to it. The way I see it is, if there is something I want on there and am willing to pony up the AS, I'll go for it without hesitation. However, anything that I auction will be going on the regular AH, so that ANYONE, F2P, Premium, or VIP can get it. I don't like the idea of an AH where a portion of the playerbase is excluded(except maybe halflings...tiny hands...). At the same time, I am not going to limit myself to only one AH if I am looking for something specific, and it happens to be on the ASAH for a reasonable price.
Just my 2cp...kinda the same reason I'm not a fan of the challenges, or this daily bonus that they are adding. It just feels wrong, like they are putting some Farmville in my DDO. If some people like it, cool, and if it brings in revenue to keep the game going, fine, but it just kinda feels wrong...like it breaks the immersion. DDO is an mmoRPG, after all, and these things just don't "fit". On the same token, it doesn't ruin my experience, and some others might like it or find it useful, so I don't see the need to boycott anything.
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However, you cannot exchange Purified Dragon Shards into AD/AS.
If we could, I would be a happier player.
1 - It is already in the game, all around tomes +x in all stats ring any bell?... Also GS ings were sold in the DDO store already. And thats not player sales, its Turbine sales of crafting ings to make nice loot.
2 - Even if someone pays 100$ (it would be nice to know a real number here, I just pulled this out of my *cough*) for a GS greatsword of greatness, and only has to run 3-4 shrouds to get the shards on top of his purchase, how does that effect my gaming experience?
I still say, while I didnt want this feature, hell I never even used astral shards for that repair thingy, but it doesnt seem to make DDO worse for me. And if its a couple hundred thousand bucks for Turbine, and they use at least a portion of that to build me a better game, I win.
IMHO there is two problems with this new auction house:
1) The fees are outrageous
2) Appart from selling BTCOE gear that is already bound, why would we use it? Every barter units that have been used by players were used because they were convenient (plat) or rare and useful (major pots, devil scales, then red scales, then any dragon scale). What can you do with astral shards? Repair equipments (not going to auction off rare loot for that), reset enhancement (anyone actually use AS instead of plats?), reset destinies (same), hiring hireling (yer kidding right?) and roll on the gold chest...
So you want us to auction rare valuable loot, get hit by a 40% fee, all for getting random prize from the gold chest...
Unless the gold chest drops xp pots, TP codes and/or rare loot like candies, it's not going to happen.
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It's gonna happen.
So it comes down to waiting longer to fill groups and having a harder time to fill Rolespecific Slots like Tank/Healer.
Also Shards of Power will be harder to aquire because there are fewer Shrouds run and with more People buying the Ings the demand for the Shards is higher.
So nope, you dont win, you only have more trouble from shop buyable Ings.
And no, Player tradeable Ings are not a problem.
Because Player have to run Shroud to get Ings to sell.
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Maybe I don't understand but what can I use Astral Shards for right now? I cant buy packs with them. I cant trade them to bypass the plat cap (or for that matter trade them in between my own toons to pool them, unless AS is already an account pool). Gold seal hires, Ship amenities\upgrades, respec\resets and repairs. That's it right?
Can anyone explain to me why I would want to sell my Blood Stone (etc.) for say 300 AS (idk? MINUS 40%) vs 400k plat (minus 30%)?
I'm failing to see the part that makes me want to dump the current AH using currency that more people have (thus increasing competition for the auctions that I post) and has more applications in favor of the new one where the currency is not as plentiful and has no value to me beyond being able to buy things off of that AH as well.
Unless you can trade them in for TP, account upgrades, inventory space, bags or any of the other DDO store items then this idea doesn't make any sense to me. (and if you could it wouldn't make any sense to Turbine).
What am I missing?
EDIT: In other words, THIS!
Last edited by st0rmcr0vv; 03-07-2013 at 10:55 AM.
Also saying that there will be worse shroud runs because of the new shard AH is a bit far fetched. We already have shroud runs what only include players between levels 19-25. You recon those shrouds will wait on a tank?
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