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    To say in the motu preview "X wild area" instead of "X-1 wild area" !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kmnh View Post
    The Underdark is fairly well done. If you have a weak enough character to not crush the place, there is plenty to see and do in there. Some of the rare encounters are more fun than the Sschindylryn quests.

    Like all explorer areas, it would get a lot better with the option of a higher difficulty setting.
    Unfortunately, if they did implement higher difficulties, it would just be via more HP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vellrad View Post
    Its sad that most of FR fanboys don't know that Underdark and drow are originally from Greyhawk...
    Quote Originally Posted by Chai View Post
    More like star trek. Leme see....pointy ear elves that live longer than humans, and split off from their bretherens agenda, became evil, and were kicked out/encouraged to leave, and moved somewhere else vowing to take revenge on their ancestors when the time was right? Yeap.
    The earliest preserved descriptions of elves comes from Norse mythology. In Old Norse they are called álfar (nominative singular álfr). In Norse Mythology, the Elves are believed to inhabit Alfheim or Yggdrasil of the World tree. Alternatively, the "dark elves" are said to inhabit Svartalfheim.

    taken right from wikipedia kids.

    Not to mention if one actually studies the lore surrounding elves, one might be aware that in the real world, if such beings where to exist, could be the source of and in fact do seem in language and history to be closely linked with concepts like angels, the worship of ancestors, animism and much more. If one gives any pondering to the idea that even in myth and legend lay a kernal of truth, one might truly wonder if what we call elves or angels etc might actually indeed be a human like species possibly from an alternate time or dimension. Stories of going beyond this worlds veil under hollow hills resonate through numerous cultures folk lore.

    So really kids both your posts are a wee bit too wrapped up in modern pop culture.

    One might argue in fact chai, that vulcans where perhaps made the way they where to resemble space elves. After all the original trek is filled with alien beings with gawd like powers who claim to be various beings from earths myths. When you have beings claiming to be apollo for example is it so hard to stretch the imagination and see vulcans as based upon folk lore and myth as well?

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    I love the Underdark. Once I learned my way around, it has become My favorite Wilderness Area. The XP down there is really good and there is lots of variety of Mobs.

    I hope they do have plans to do more with it, but if not, I'm Ok with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karavek View Post
    The earliest preserved descriptions of elves comes from Norse mythology. In Old Norse they are called álfar (nominative singular álfr). In Norse Mythology, the Elves are believed to inhabit Alfheim or Yggdrasil of the World tree. Alternatively, the "dark elves" are said to inhabit Svartalfheim.

    taken right from wikipedia kids.

    Not to mention if one actually studies the lore surrounding elves, one might be aware that in the real world, if such beings where to exist, could be the source of and in fact do seem in language and history to be closely linked with concepts like angels, the worship of ancestors, animism and much more. If one gives any pondering to the idea that even in myth and legend lay a kernal of truth, one might truly wonder if what we call elves or angels etc might actually indeed be a human like species possibly from an alternate time or dimension. Stories of going beyond this worlds veil under hollow hills resonate through numerous cultures folk lore.

    So really kids both your posts are a wee bit too wrapped up in modern pop culture.

    One might argue in fact chai, that vulcans where perhaps made the way they where to resemble space elves. After all the original trek is filled with alien beings with gawd like powers who claim to be various beings from earths myths. When you have beings claiming to be apollo for example is it so hard to stretch the imagination and see vulcans as based upon folk lore and myth as well?



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    Why is the Underdark here? because it's FRIGGIN AWESOME. Some of the most fun I had in all of DDO was the second or third night our merry band of retards got lost in there for 2-3 hours trying to find the drow city. I completely geek-out on in.

    Not everyone is an XP/minute power-gaming megalomaniac, in fact I'd say we're in the minority. Many play for the emersion of it, and getting lost in the Underdark while getting attack by purple worms was some of the most fun I've even had.

    I played Vault of the Drow 30ish years ago . . . this was that visualized. This game needs more awesome immersion like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EllisDee37 View Post
    I fervently hope that they do NOT ever add more quests to the underdark. The floors in there don't draw on my machine, so the entire area is an unplayable mess for me. Any quests in there (including the one in there now) are off-limits to me because of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fco-karatekid View Post
    Unfortunately, if they did implement higher difficulties, it would just be via more HP.
    That would help a lot, to be honest. Those Illithids are good at incapacitanting and killing people who don't kill them in time. But the bigger issue is that nothing does enough damage to break through basic self-healing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ape_Man View Post
    Why is the Underdark here? because it's FRIGGIN AWESOME. Some of the most fun I had in all of DDO was the second or third night our merry band of retards got lost in there for 2-3 hours trying to find the drow city. I completely geek-out on in.

    Not everyone is an XP/minute power-gaming megalomaniac, in fact I'd say we're in the minority. Many play for the emersion of it, and getting lost in the Underdark while getting attack by purple worms was some of the most fun I've even had.

    I played Vault of the Drow 30ish years ago . . . this was that visualized. This game needs more awesome immersion like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karavek View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ape_Man View Post
    Why is the Underdark here? because it's FRIGGIN AWESOME. Some of the most fun I had in all of DDO was the second or third night our merry band of retards got lost in there for 2-3 hours trying to find the drow city. I completely geek-out on in.
    Absolutely!

    My first time down in the Underdark, I spent about three hours running around, just taking it all in. Had a fantastic time.

    I'm looking forward to new quest chains that will involve it.

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    What is the point of the Underdark? Different strokes for different folks - not everyone adventures the same way. Some explore, some challenge, some quest, etc.

    It is not like this is the first time DDO presented an adventure area with little to do in terms of 'quests.' Let's see, among others:

    * Cerulean Hills has 2 quests.
    * Searing Heights had no quests for years and now has 1.
    * Tangleroot has essentially 1 quest entrance.

    And on the other hand you have 'adventure areas' which are more worth the quests than the 'exploring':

    * Waterworks
    * Restless Isles (which is a nice little bonus but seems to be rarely rare for such by most of the general player population).
    * Reavers Refuge (all 3)

    Overall, I think the devs like to have options as the game has developed and they want to try and appeal to the most playstyles they can along the way. So, they try to offer a 'little something' for everyone even though it may not be the 'best' for a particular playstyle.
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    What I'd like to see more than more quests in the Underdark (though more quests is always good) is a better map for dealing with multi-tiered areas. This game has been needing a better map for years now and the Underdark is just another area to add to the list of "areas where the map is practically useless."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saravis View Post
    What I'd like to see more than more quests in the Underdark (though more quests is always good) is a better map for dealing with multi-tiered areas. This game has been needing a better map for years now and the Underdark is just another area to add to the list of "areas where the map is practically useless."
    A 3d rotatable map would do wonders for this game; if only for the type of dungeon you describe. The flat map does well for minor elevation changes, but gets totally borked over anything above about two stories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atremus View Post
    I know. I do that every life.

    Do you ever go back to the underdark?
    well ya I run around there doing slayers. I gotta say the first time I found one of those worms in that cave scared the **** outa me lol.

    I agree as well any future packs definitely have a place down there, as their are plenty of tunnels that stop short and it seems to go on forever as you can't proceed into the darkness after a certain point.

    Then again with the forgotten realms series I think turbine has a great deal of content to slap in there.
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    I have always hated Underdark. It was my least favourite part of Baldur's Gate II.

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    Worst thing about this explorer area (and Kings forest) is the lack of baddies around. I understand the immersion feel of the Underdark and the cool look of the forest, but either increase the number of mob groups or the number of mobs in a group. To me it feels like you are wondering around and occasionally get something to beat on.

    The map is a pain, but I'm one for a bit more action. I think that Schynd has a nice balance (should double up on the number of ppl).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karavek View Post
    The earliest preserved descriptions of elves comes from Norse mythology. In Old Norse they are called álfar (nominative singular álfr). In Norse Mythology, the Elves are believed to inhabit Alfheim or Yggdrasil of the World tree. Alternatively, the "dark elves" are said to inhabit Svartalfheim.

    taken right from wikipedia kids.

    Not to mention if one actually studies the lore surrounding elves, one might be aware that in the real world, if such beings where to exist, could be the source of and in fact do seem in language and history to be closely linked with concepts like angels, the worship of ancestors, animism and much more. If one gives any pondering to the idea that even in myth and legend lay a kernal of truth, one might truly wonder if what we call elves or angels etc might actually indeed be a human like species possibly from an alternate time or dimension. Stories of going beyond this worlds veil under hollow hills resonate through numerous cultures folk lore.

    So really kids both your posts are a wee bit too wrapped up in modern pop culture.

    One might argue in fact chai, that vulcans where perhaps made the way they where to resemble space elves. After all the original trek is filled with alien beings with gawd like powers who claim to be various beings from earths myths. When you have beings claiming to be apollo for example is it so hard to stretch the imagination and see vulcans as based upon folk lore and myth as well?
    Wikipedia, the undeniable proof on the internet.

    I was referring to storyline, not the race themselves. This entire "they became evil so were kicked out of their original society, and then found a new home to practive their evil ways in while vowing revenge on their ancestors" plot, is old as the hills. And them hills be old son.

    It didnt stop at vulcans for star trek.

    Humans - yeap the POV race.
    Vulcans - space elves
    Romulans - space drow
    Klingons - space orcs
    Ferrengi - space halflings
    Spock - space half elf
    Cardassians - space lizard men

    If you search through those myths you bring up in wikipedia, you will find the SAME PLOT exists - where these mythical pointy eared beings kicked their evil bretheren out of their wonderous city and they went....you guessed it.....underground, in order to continue to foster their evil society and.....yeap....vowed revenge on their surface dwelling counterparts. Wiki also references them being akin to angels - how many modern relogions did that plot occur in. - wont go further than that because I know they dont want us discussing that topic on the forums - but needless to say, you will find that plot in alot of human mythos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chai View Post
    Cardassians - space lizard men
    I thought the Gorn were the space lizard men.


    I think Kardashians are some kind of "Reality" TV lizard actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gremmlynn View Post
    I thought the Gorn were the space lizard men.


    I think Kardashians are some kind of "Reality" TV lizard actually.
    They are the original.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chai View Post
    Wikipedia, the undeniable proof on the internet.

    I was referring to storyline, not the race themselves. This entire "they became evil so were kicked out of their original society, and then found a new home to practive their evil ways in while vowing revenge on their ancestors" plot, is old as the hills. And them hills be old son.

    It didnt stop at vulcans for star trek.

    Humans - yeap the POV race.
    Vulcans - space elves : Being superior to humans in every way, no ardument from me here
    Romulans - space drow: Think your confusing romuluns with remans from the new stuff, nothing remotely underground about romulans. virtually identical to vulcans except they like to fight and conquer. Closer to grey elves in their arrogant aloofness and desire to expand their stone built kingdom.
    Klingons - space orcs: More like hobgoblins really, klingons are very lawful and orderly, yet militant, in fact they have alot in common with romulans
    Ferrengi - space halflings: Actually more like space dwarves whose main character trait is greed and a desire for gold.
    Spock - space half elf: if you mean like how in the silmarillion its inferred that in a technical sense elrohnd was not a pure elf but still as powerful as one rather then the weak half blood concept of D&D they sure ill go with that.
    Cardassians - space lizard men: No these are the Drow of star trek, clever, cunning, deadly,deceptive, The tailor garrik of DS-9 would be easily seen in my mind as a drow trying to live a good life putting his drow views behind him, yet still coloring his everyday approach.

    If you search through those myths you bring up in wikipedia, you will find the SAME PLOT exists - where these mythical pointy eared beings kicked their evil bretheren out of their wonderous city and they went....you guessed it.....underground, in order to continue to foster their evil society and.....yeap....vowed revenge on their surface dwelling counterparts. Wiki also references them being akin to angels - how many modern relogions did that plot occur in. - wont go further than that because I know they dont want us discussing that topic on the forums - but needless to say, you will find that plot in alot of human mythos.
    As I have actually made serious study in my years of the topic, yes when one starts to compare myths and legends globally you see alot of themes occur over and over, this in fact is part of what brought about the theory and started the legend of the lost civilization of MU. And it what as another who quoted my post connected it to, the current trend in shows like ancient aliens. Even modern historians though argue, some can show alot of evidence for their theories on how one religion evolved into the next. Yes we cant get to detailed due to forum rules and how some who have certain beliefs might take offense to being told their religion and god is actually just a BS version of an older religion and the name of their gawd is actually something else. Its why hebrew, christian, and muslims tend to conflict so much for example as the most recent and well known set of faiths that stand atop each other and lead to modern pseudo christian organizations.

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