This is a compilation of requests to keep the false life line of augments in yellow, instead of moving it to blue.
The main argument is twofold;

1. Backward compatibility, both for consistency's sake and for the preventing a handicap to anyone unable to take advantage of the previous system.

2. Yellow augment slots will lack in options and power without false life. At the same time, yellow slots are far more numerous than blue, this in combination with less options strongly amplifies the problem.

Quote Originally Posted by Sheep_Stealer View Post
Also the shuffling of effects between yellow and blue was unneeded. Yellow has essentially become useless. The spell points will rarely matter. The resists are essentially useless when considering guild shrines. Greater spell focus at 24 will be an off school choice at best.

No, I can't say I'm feeling it for this system. If they had just harmonized things and created equivalents for the existing epic augments it would have been much better.
Quote Originally Posted by Dolphious View Post
That said I agree that they yellow slots are weak. HP (of the false life variety) should be moved from blue to yellow
Quote Originally Posted by Eth View Post
blue seems to already have enough very useful stuff, so an old item slotted with GFL might still fit better in some setups.
Quote Originally Posted by Dace View Post
Agree with previous poster that YELLOW slot needs Greater False Life alternative.

Thanks for listening ^
Quote Originally Posted by Braegan View Post
Overall looks like a really good change.

I'll also echo that Yellow slots seem really weak, especially for non-blue bars. While Blue Slots seem very desirable (since some of old Yellow augments were moved to Blue). The biggest problem with that is you are more then likely to have more Yellow augents then Blue on nearly any set-up.

I'd like to see some of those old Yellow augments come back and perhaps add in a few other choices for Blue. As in at least consider moving GFL (or the new equivelent) back to Yellow, Give Blue back Toughness, Consider 150% Fort for lvl 24 Blue.

Otherwise, looks like a nice direction.
Quote Originally Posted by dejafu View Post
While I'm very enthusiastic about most of the changes, I'm starting to agree with this sentiment the more and more I look at it. Yellow slots got a lot of their best options removed and given to Blue without much to compensate (particularly for melees).

This is going to be a problem that will be especially aggravating since yellow slots will be by far the most common slots after colorless. Fewer options + more slots = a lot of empty slots.
Quote Originally Posted by Mad_Leo View Post
Looks good - the only thing that looks odd to me is changing hit point enhancements from yellow to blue slot. No-one currently uses the +4 res or +4 prot yellow enhancements (or at least only as a last resort) so moving these to blue and providing better versions will work. Moving the HP enhancement however will cause problems for many, especially as yellow slots are much more common. The best solution imo would be to keep toughness available for blue, and move the HP enhancements to yellow; the process of converting characters to the new system would then be so much smoother. SP enhancements are staying in yellow, I don't see the reasoning for moving the HP enhancement - perhaps someone could enlighten me.
Quote Originally Posted by fTdOmen View Post
Omissions like Toughness and Greater false life seem poorly thought out.
This system, with it's keep guild slots, (but no new ones drop), replacing old slot recipes, (but not all), is half baked and shouldn't be released to live until it's properly finished. But why buck the trend huh.
Quote Originally Posted by TreknaQudane View Post
ML 20 and a Blue Augment to add Greater False Life however is an entirely different level of bad.
Quote Originally Posted by SirValentine View Post

Some good stuff in augment list there, but, as others have pointed out, some glaring omissions.

Rather than list out specific augment powers I think are missing, can I suggest
everything currently available as an Epic augment?
Quote Originally Posted by Tevain View Post
I am baffled by the decision the further devalue Yellow slots with moving Resistance, Proctection and False Life to
Blue slots which are only available on random Armor, Robes, Outfits, Shields, or other off-hand items or named items
Quote Originally Posted by Hunta-EU View Post
False life is now a blue slot and a enhancement bonus.

In other words we need to find place for the enhancements that no longer fit or make a legacy item that is set in stone.

Some challenges still to overcome with the new system I hope they will add to their weak sauce yellow list.
Quote Originally Posted by Atremus View Post
They should move the HP back to Yellow to keep the change consistent with the previous system.
Quote Originally Posted by Marmaduke View Post
Add me to the list of people who like everything EXCEPT the change to Greater False Life now being a blue slot. There are WAY TOO FEW blue slot items. Keep it yellow.
Quote Originally Posted by Dace View Post
Please put healing amp / health onto YELLOW augments as its currently super weak for melee characters and at least everyone likes health and healing amp ^
Quote Originally Posted by Infant View Post
Allow some useful effects for the yellow slots, at least False Life.
Quote Originally Posted by Durnak View Post
False life Augment situation is very troublesome because they are no longer yellow slots.
Quote Originally Posted by QuantumFX View Post
The Ugly
Grandfathered epic items are kind of a PITA to keep track of in this new system. (To paraphrase Strongbad, “You’re left to wonder: Why can I not get ye yellow augment?”)
Quote Originally Posted by Glenalth View Post
Yellow does look a bit weak

The False Life and Elemental Resists on the Yellow side could probably be adjusted a bit
Quote Originally Posted by Alavatar View Post
I also agree that HP should be added back to the Yellow Augment slot.
Quote Originally Posted by bbqzor View Post
But I would like to comment... can we get HP augs back in yellow slots? You need to consider that all the old epic loot was basically balanced around yellow offering false life, and now it doesn't. Thats a rather large indirect nerf to all old items, and a handicap to anyone unable to take advantage of that before U17.
Quote Originally Posted by Jitty View Post
I would echo what others have said though. False life should go back to yellow slots
Quote Originally Posted by Flavilandile View Post
now my two cents about Augments... They are going to fit what most people said.

- Lack of Yellow Augments.
It's the accessory augment, that's usually the one we have lots of and the most interesting things from it are gone : Toughness and False Life.

Yes they will still be there for those that already have it, but I'm thinking of the Have Not.
There's going to be those that had it before the change and will have it in a yellow slot and those that won't have it.
It's going to be like the No ML Underwater action items, the No ML Feather Falling items and all the other grandfathered items... there's going to be the Have and the Have Not. ( and yes I'm in the Have Category... )

I can understand the idea to make toughness a named augment as I don't see any problem there, as long as it's going to be a yellow augment. But you should put back False life in the Yellow Slot.
Quote Originally Posted by Zerkul View Post
I like the new augment sytem, yet there's few things i don't like.

The fact that there's no toughness in the new augments and greater false life and other stuff got transformed into blue augments will make people not cleanse their own items. For example i got an item with toughness slotted into greenslot: i will never cleanse it if i know i will not be able to fit it anywhere else. This is a desing problem in my opinion: i think you guys should either revert this thing back to their normal slots and allow the crafting of toughness and other stuff you removed or simply make all items holding toughness at the moment auto-cleansing on log in.

A new player will never be able to make an item like mine (Spare Hand Belt with toughness for example) if he hits cap and farm this kind of equipment post U17.
Quote Originally Posted by Ensis View Post
[*]Please shift certain enhancements back to yellow slots, such as False Life, Protection, and Resistance. We're likely to have an abundance of yellow slots compared to blue, as they can appear on three times the amount of slots. However, there are not enough viable or interesting choices for yellow augments to fill these slots.
Quote Originally Posted by Tid12 View Post
Move GFL to Yellow slot again
Quote Originally Posted by Shaatan View Post
Bring back Toughness and move False Life (and some others) back to Yellow !

Quote Originally Posted by RobbinB View Post
Sometimes a little common sense outweighs everything else.

I simply can't see any reason to not have toughness in blue and greater false life in yellow slots in the new augment system. It just doesn't make sense to create a biphasic situation where you have new/old items that aren't consistent with each other.

Regardless of what properties are offered in what slots at what level and how the system functions there is simply no compelling argument for changing the availability of GFL and toughness in their current slots.

Quote Originally Posted by LeLoric View Post
Moving gfl and resistance both over to blue slots leaves yellow slots with very little that anyone would want. +2 school dc's is ok but anything of real consequence casters will aim for +3 boosts or have one of the items with +2 to all schools. Resistances are easy enough to get elsewharere with the spell, ship buffs, wands, 30 point pots etc.

Blue meanwhile added more to an already pretty heavy field of augments.

In general I think most people are gonna end up wanting more blue slots then they can get and use yellow mainly for colorless augments.

Either some of blues need to be moved to yellow like good luck and gfl as these are effects mostly found on accessories anyways not armor. Either that or yellow needs a big boost
Quote Originally Posted by Atremus View Post
can you comment on the possibility of moving HP back to Yellow? Most of the initial feedback supports this move.
and my intial reaction
Quote Originally Posted by RoelHeeswijk View Post
Nice system. Yellow augments seem a bit weak though.

The only real big issue I have with it is that it creates legacy items, for example items with a yellow slot that have GFL slotted (same for resistance4, and old Toughness in blue, if the new HP isn't toughness-like). It seems unfair that new players will never ever be able to get these.
And I don't like the headache of the coming month in which I will have to figure out which item to slot how, because now it will be set in stone forever. I'll need to run cannith challenges like crazy to get multiples of the good items to slot in every possible combination that won't be possible later. I'll have to get lucky on an epic belt of mroranon because it's now or never for a GFL variant. Etc.

I don't mind change, if from u17 on all items would have to be reslotted i wouldn't complain at all, I like to adept. But I really dislike creating non-obsolete legacy items. (reminds of the Enduring Conviction fail :-/)

So. Even though I cringe to think of the inelegance of having hit points in both yellow and blue, I feel this is outweighed and I ask for you to either:
-put the HP line in yellow (of course make it false life), and keep 20 Toughness HP in blue at level20.
-make the blue HP-line toughness, and add Greater False Life to the yellow table at level20.

Also consider keeping resistance and protection in yellow, and giving blue something else, something new and exciting, there was no need for a shuffle. Honestly, the yellow augments can use an improvement anyway, what you propose now is pretty weak and I can't see anyone putting anything but colorless stuff in there.
In addition to these, there are an even greater number of reactions just addressing the sentiment that yellow slot are now far too weak, which I have omitted since I realize that moving False Life back to yellow is not the only way to fix that (although by far the most logical one).

These are just a portion of the posts requesting a move of GFL back to yellow, posted across the forum in multiple contexts, but I didn't check all topics; and to keep it fair, I removed multiple posts of the same users.

Please hear our concern and do what is both right and logical.