Some guy (Guardian) with a melee pure cleric with a starting STR of 10 said that DM4 is awesome.
We were more/less pointing out the folly of that build.
He had a 16 CHR and a 10 STR I tried to point out that he could drop his CHR to a 14 and raise his STR to 14 (from a 10).
He then went Strawman and ad hominem on us and argued a completely different point.
He (Guardian) may be a good player from behind the keyboard. But I would say that his build and build choices are sub-optimal.