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    They used to be cool. Is it worth it anymore?


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    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.14.02
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    Level 20 True Neutral Half-Elf Male
    (14 Barbarian \ 6 Ranger) 
    Hit Points: 418
    Spell Points: 240 
    BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
    Fortitude: 19
    Reflex: 14
    Will: 9
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             16                    25
    Dexterity            16                    20
    Constitution         16                    20
    Intelligence          9                    13
    Wisdom               13                    16
    Charisma              8                    11
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
    +3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
    +4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
    Balance               5                    16
    Bluff                -1                     0
    Concentration         3                     8
    Diplomacy            -1                     0
    Disable Device        1                     3
    Haggle               -1                     0
    Heal                  1                     3
    Hide                  3                     6
    Intimidate           -1                     0
    Jump                  7                    30
    Listen                1                     4
    Move Silently         3                     5
    Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
    Perform              n/a                    n/a
    Repair               -1                     1
    Search               -1                     4
    Spot                  4                    24
    Swim                  3                     7
    Tumble                3.5                   6
    Use Magic Device      1                    11
    
    Level 1 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Elemental
    Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Cleric
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
    Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot
    
    
    Level 2 (Ranger)
    
    
    Level 3 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons
    
    
    Level 4 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 5 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 6 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness
    
    
    Level 7 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant
    
    
    Level 8 (Ranger)
    
    
    Level 9 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    
    
    Level 10 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 11 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Sprint Boost I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Sprint Boost II
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage I
    Enhancement: Improved Cleric Dilettante I
    Enhancement: Improved Cleric Dilettante II
    Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
    Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
    Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +2 Arrows
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer I
    Enhancement: Ranger Energy of the Wild I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution I
    Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Improved Trap Sense I
    
    
    Level 12 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Dodge
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Acid Arrows
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage II
    
    
    Level 13 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost III
    Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage II
    
    
    Level 14 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage II
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +3 Arrows
    
    
    Level 15 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Mobility
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Explosive Arrows
    Enhancement: Improved Cleric Dilettante III
    
    
    Level 16 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost IV
    
    
    Level 17 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness III
    
    
    Level 18 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Shot on the Run
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Terror Arrows
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage III
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +4 Arrows
    
    
    Level 19 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness IV
    
    
    Level 20 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Slaying Arrows
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage III
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +5 Arrows
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    They can still be fantastic. But I would drop to 12 barbarian. And pick up 2 fighter for more feats and potentially better damage or hit points if you turn those feats in Toughness.

    Forget Dodge/Mobility/Shot on the Run, grab Greater Two Weapon Fighting/Power Attack/Imp Crit: Slash. And with the two extra feats from Fighter take Kopesh/Cleave. As Epic Feats, take Great Cleave/Overwhelming Crit.

    Oh, and take Frenzied Berserker. The damage is great.

    You would basically just be a Twf Barbarian who every two minutes drops a BADASS Manyshot.
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    I planned this 32 pt bowbarian that i think is very viable at end level, using FOtW or shiradi. If have 36 pt build can put more stats on str and con but with this 32 pt build just need a +2 dex tome at level 17 for IPS.

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    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.14.02
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    Level 20 Chaotic Good Half-Elf Male
    (2 Fighter \ 12 Barbarian \ 6 Ranger) 
    Hit Points: 374
    Spell Points: 195 
    BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
    Fortitude: 20
    Reflex: 14
    Will: 6
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             16                    24
    Dexterity            16                    20
    Constitution         15                    18
    Intelligence         10                    10
    Wisdom               10                    10
    Charisma              8                     8
    
    Tomes Used
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 17
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 20
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 20
    
    Level 1 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
    Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Rogue
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    
    
    Level 2 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 3 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    
    
    Level 4 (Barbarian)
    Ability Raise: STR
    
    
    Level 5 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 6 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Cleave
    
    
    Level 7 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 8 (Barbarian)
    Ability Raise: DEX
    Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Frenzied Berserker I
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness II
    
    
    Level 9 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot
    
    
    Level 10 (Ranger)
    
    
    Level 11 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Construct
    
    
    Level 12 (Ranger)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness
    
    
    Level 13 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 14 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 15 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons
    Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost III
    Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
    Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost I
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Acid Arrows
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Explosive Arrows
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage II
    Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
    Enhancement: Improved Rogue Dilettante I
    Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
    Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +2 Arrows
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +3 Arrows
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer I
    Enhancement: Ranger Energy of the Wild I
    Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
    Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
    
    
    Level 16 (Barbarian)
    Ability Raise: STR
    
    
    Level 17 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 18 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Precise Shot
    
    
    Level 19 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 20 (Barbarian)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost IV
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Burst Arrows
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Slaying Arrows
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Terror Arrows
    Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack III
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage III
    Enhancement: Barbarian Frenzied Berserker II
    Enhancement: Improved Rogue Dilettante II
    Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +4 Arrows
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +5 Arrows
    Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution I
    As epic features can pick IC ranged and stunning blow (or another feat like great cleave or quick draw or kophesh, etc), or great cleave and overwhelming critical

    With a very powerful manyshot (Pinion+ IPS+ Rage + primal scream + frenzied II crit mult.+ adrenaline overload+ slaying arrows+ haste boost IV and damage boost (and other buffs etc)) and decent twf damage with scimitars (or named weapons like tinah, balizarde, nightmare, oathblade, etc)

    (Also i think can take the THF line instead TWF(with same stats and just THF or maybe better to take more fighter levels if going THF for more feats) if taking great cleave and overwhelming critical with momentum swing and lay waste and maybe a EAGA or ESOS or Cleave or Drow weapons)

    Just not as versatile as other aa archers builds that can get umd and csw and also without evasion, but the saves can be there and the barbarian speed and the dps of course I think, and could use healing spring for self heal if dont have silver flame pots.
    Last edited by boredman; 01-22-2013 at 03:49 PM.

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    My take on a bowbarian is fairly similar to boredman's:
    Code:
    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.14.02
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    Level 20 True Neutral Half-Elf Female
    (2 Fighter \ 12 Barbarian \ 6 Ranger) 
    Hit Points: 292
    Spell Points: 175 
    BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
    Fortitude: 19
    Reflex: 13
    Will: 5
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             18                    27
    Dexterity            16                    19
    Constitution         14                    16
    Intelligence          8                     8
    Wisdom                8                     8
    Charisma              8                     8
    
    Tomes Used
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
    
    Level 1 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
    Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Rogue
    Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot
    
    
    Level 2 (Ranger)
    
    
    Level 3 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons
    
    
    Level 4 (Ranger)
    Ability Raise: STR
    
    
    Level 5 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant
    
    
    Level 6 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness
    
    
    Level 7 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 8 (Fighter)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons
    
    
    Level 9 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    
    
    Level 10 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 11 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 12 (Fighter)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Precise Shot
    
    
    Level 13 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 14 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 15 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Cleave
    
    
    Level 16 (Barbarian)
    Ability Raise: STR
    
    
    Level 17 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 18 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
    
    
    Level 19 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 20 (Barbarian)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost III
    Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Sprint Boost I
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Acid Arrows
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Explosive Arrows
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Burst Arrows
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Slaying Arrows
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Terror Arrows
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage III
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage IV
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage III
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack III
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage III
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage IV
    Enhancement: Barbarian Frenzied Berserker I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Frenzied Berserker II
    Enhancement: Improved Rogue Dilettante I
    Enhancement: Improved Rogue Dilettante II
    Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II
    Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
    Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +2 Arrows
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +3 Arrows
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +4 Arrows
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +5 Arrows
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer I
    Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Improved Trap Sense I
    Epic feats: Great Cleave & Overwhelming Critical

    Alternatively, you could take arty splash instead of ftr; a net loss of one feat (drop MT pre-req but also ftr bonus feats), but gain UMD & W&S Mastery I.

    Plenty of options for EDs: Shiradi, FotW, LD, even SD for extra sneak atk & Evasion.

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