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    Quote Originally Posted by Barnaky View Post
    How about you get it right?

    I dont heal you because im not able to, i dont heal you because youre a trolling griefing vegitable.

    I dont die except in the very endgame content, you know it. I think thats only natural for a first lifer. You constantly compare my first lifer to peoples 20-30 lifers as a valid point for personal gaming skills. What a 20-30 lifer proves, as far as skills concerned, is that you are a good grinder that have a purpose in life.

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    So the answer is "both". I see.
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    Snarfle.


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    Quote Originally Posted by stoerm View Post
    P.S. Pyreal cares too much about what others say. Someone was mean to him some time. It's practically all he writes about on the forums.
    There is a very good reason why i repeat myself on the forums, its off topic so i´ll leave it at that. However, some people do have a habit of distort the truth to fit their needs. You could argue "haters gonna hate". Why make it easy for them?



    Ok, something on topic. The loot in the chest has a name on it, for a very good reason. Nothing anyone say can change that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barnaky View Post
    Snarfle.


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    There is a very good reason why i repeat myself on the forums, its off topic so i´ll leave it at that. However, some people do have a habit of distort the truth to fit their needs. You could argue "haters gonna hate". Why make it easy for them?



    Ok, something on topic. The loot in the chest has a name on it, for a very good reason. Nothing anyone say can change that.
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    thinking your loot if yours?
    that name is just to make sure people are credited for giving me loot!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kennyburns View Post
    thinking your loot if yours?
    Yes, Turbine agrees with me on this.

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    Enough of this, haters gonna hate.

    Nice work highjacking the thread btw.
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    Post #2. It's all you need.

    Aything else is just overthinking the subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barnaky View Post
    How about extending this type of thinking to "your toon is your toon"?

    and...

    If you blacklist people because they won't do what you want with their toons, its simply tacky, and shows you lack respect for other people's rights

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    Tbh u were the 1 to show up with a axe to grind and posted off topic, thread is about loot rules not the right to role up gimp toons and pike ur way through content.

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    The funny part is that we are the people doing open EE runs all the time. You are one of the very few people who are blacklisted for being a piker and a griefer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kmnh View Post
    The funny part is that we are the people doing open EE runs all the time. You are one of the very few people who are blacklisted for being a piker and a griefer.
    Since the Templar guild is on my case this intensely i must be a V.I.P to you guys. Say you´re sorries.
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    I seriously Think this loot thread is very on topic and seriously a truely amazing discussion pertaining loot rules. And
    Loot drama -> Forged by:
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    Evil Templarian fake, let me install the game before you accuse me of something. MMk?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barnaky View Post
    Evil Templarian fake, let me install the game before you accuse me of something. MMk?
    Don't need the game to post on forums as we can see
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    Smile

    With the game installed your lies wount be that obvious.
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    Default Barnaky...

    ...less entertaining than usual.

    Pick up your game!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MRMechMan View Post
    ...less entertaining than usual.

    Pick up your game!
    I give him credit for trying so hard tho
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    I suppose there only needs to be one rule.

    1. Don't get all butthurt over loot.

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    +5 Heavy Densewood shield of Acid Resistance up for roll. Need before greed..beauty before wealth, popularity before brains you know the drill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D'arc_Tangent View Post
    Post #2. It's all you need.

    Aything else is just overthinking the subject.
    Post # 68 is far better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GermanicusMaximus View Post
    My loot is my loot. Your loot is your loot. I don't have a right to tell you what to do with your loot. You don't have a right to tell me what to do with my loot. Anything the loot owner decides to do is perfectly acceptable. If your guild has loot rules, they apply to the members of your guild only, because continued membership in the guild implies that members accept the rules of the guild.

    If you blacklist people because they won't do what you want with their loot, its simply tacky, and shows you lack respect for other people's rights.
    FWIW, I've never blacklisted anyone, but it would seem to me that doing so is just as much a person's right as people doing what they want with loot.

    Life is filled with people choosing to not associate with other people based on how someone behaves. If I were to go out with a group of people IRL, and there was someone in the group who behaved in a way that made me uncomfortable, then I would probably try to avoid being around that person in the future. Depending on the behavior, I might just try to avoid sitting next to him at a restaurant, but I might choose to generally avoid social gatherings where he was present. If I were to game with someone who behaved similarly, I'd might choose to avoid them as well.

    The person in question might have every right to engage in the behavior that made me uncomfortable. I'm not at all questioning anyone's freedom to engage in self expression, for instance. But I'd have every right to then avoid them based on their behavior. Just because you have the right to do something, that doesnt mean that you have the right to have such behavior be free from social (or medical) consequences. Life is filled with things people have a right to do which can lead to undesireable consequences.

    People have the right to cheat at card games or board games (other than in a casino). People have the right to lie about whether they are in a relationship. People have the right to lie in general, outside of certain narrow legal situations. People have the right to drink excessively at parties, and then hit on anyone that moves. People have the right to be sexist, racist jerks (in private settings, at least -- less so in a workplace).

    I'm not taking a side on which loot dividing behavior is fair (at least, not in this post), and I'm not saying that any method of loot division is precisely analogous to lying about having a wife or making racist comments. But what I am saying is that people have the right to decide to not associate with someone based on their behavior. Doing so doesn't show a lack of respect for other people's rights. It simply shows a dislike for how they choose to use those rights, and consequentially a desire to not associate with them.

    tl;dr version: Freedom of association is right up there with freedom of speech on the list of fundamental rights...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kmnh View Post
    I don't think there is a way to make that work, server-wide.

    People who follow these good ideas will have a much easier time acquiring their gear, but it only works between friends. There are too many liars and cheaters running around.
    Honestly it used to work fairly well. The liars and cheaters were well known quantities and generally blacklisted from any raids.

    With the slow dying off of veteran players and new players reaching cap and not sticking around long this sort of server wide endgame follow the rules that help everyone has been eliminated as a real option.
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