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    Quote Originally Posted by Dandonk View Post
    Will there be a fair renown system for small guilds in the future?
    Your wish is already granted, the current one is fair. It's the same one you have had for years and no one in a small guild ever complained about before.

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    Renown? Crafting? Come on, what we need is a loot bonus to get another shot at cool loot to frostify!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gkar View Post
    Your wish is already granted, the current one is fair. It's the same one you have had for years and no one in a small guild ever complained about before.
    Eh wut?

    Suddenly large guilds get huge advantages, and it's "the same system" we had for years?

    Suddenly small guilds get larger ransack penalties, and it's "the same system" we had for years?

    Sorry, I don't see it.
    It's definitely an N-word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gkar View Post
    Your wish is already granted, the current one is fair. It's the same one you have had for years and no one in a small guild ever complained about before.
    People in guilds of 10 or less get 10x more decay than a guild of 200 after the guild bonus is applied. No it's not fair - not even close.

    Not to mention with the new increased ransack penalty when gaining a level, small guilds are actually worse off because they put this in since it's so easy for big guilds to level. It's very difficult for small guilds to hold there level after gaining it because of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrudh View Post
    Get more than one character and you can always be happy!
    Its more a time based (wife based?) restriction which stops me from ever getting my other toons to 20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slarden View Post
    People in guilds of 10 or less get 10x more decay than a guild of 200 after the guild bonus is applied. No it's not fair - not even close.
    Its the same system for small guilds as its always been.

    It's just now been made fair to large guilds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gkar View Post
    Its the same system for small guilds as its always been.

    It's just now been made fair to large guilds.
    No.

    It's been made rofl-easy for large guilds. And a little worse for small guilds. This is not fair.
    It's definitely an N-word.

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    Then become a larger guild..... OK, so you like your guild the way it is. Well there it is..... Until they change it that is... Which I'm guessing will be in U-17 when the fall over backwards to appease you poor souls...

    Life isn't fair... Never was never will be....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dandonk View Post
    No.

    It's been made rofl-easy for large guilds. And a little worse for small guilds. This is not fair.
    Made worse how?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smatt View Post
    Then become a larger guild..... OK, so you like your guild the way it is. Well there it is..... Until they change it that is... Which I'm guessing will be in U-17 when the fall over backwards to appease you poor souls...

    Life isn't fair... Never was never will be....
    Life isn't fair? Oh, so THAT's what I should have told the large guilds before? Right, then.
    It's definitely an N-word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dandonk View Post
    No.

    It's been made rofl-easy for large guilds. And a little worse for small guilds. This is not fair.
    Video games are never fair unlsess you play alone.

    Someone is always better then you at something in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gkar View Post
    Made worse how?
    Larger ransack penalty on levelling.
    It's definitely an N-word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hendrik View Post
    Video games are never fair unlsess you play alone.

    Someone is always better then you at something in it.
    They're better? Yes.

    But getting stuff handed to them for a play style choice that has no bearing on skill or effort? Why is that OK?
    It's definitely an N-word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dandonk View Post
    Larger ransack penalty on levelling.
    You mean the limit they added that stopped you from getting more than 3 levels in a day? That was meant to stop the large guilds.

    Is it even possible in a small guild to get more than 3 levels without using complete cheese/exploit tactics?

    Three levels per day seems pretty darn reasonable to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dandonk View Post
    They're better? Yes.

    But getting stuff handed to them for a play style choice that has no bearing on skill or effort? Why is that OK?
    So then you want to remove the small guild renown bonus since that rewards a particular play style and has no bearing on skill or effort?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gkar View Post
    So then you want to remove the small guild renown bonus since that rewards a particular play style and has no bearing on skill or effort?
    I want players in small guilds and those in large guilds to have it equally easy. This will necessarily mean some mechanics to help out small guilds.

    This was in Turbine's original guild vision. I do not think that is unfair at all.
    It's definitely an N-word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gkar View Post
    You mean the limit they added that stopped you from getting more than 3 levels in a day? That was meant to stop the large guilds.

    Is it even possible in a small guild to get more than 3 levels without using complete cheese/exploit tactics?

    Three levels per day seems pretty darn reasonable to me.
    The ransack penalty means you get less renown after gaining ONE level, and progressively less after that.

    This hits every guild that levels.
    It's definitely an N-word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dandonk View Post
    Life isn't fair? Oh, so THAT's what I should have told the large guilds before? Right, then.

    Sure...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gkar View Post
    Its the same system for small guilds as its always been.

    It's just now been made fair to large guilds.
    No it is not, the ransack penalty for gaining a level has increased significantly.

    Prior to the change only guilds with extremely high play time could make it to level 90+ Now any large guild can make it to 90 while small guilds are still stuck at a level. I am fine if they want to make it easier for large guilds to level, but they need to do so for all guilds. Many people in small guilds spent 2+ years building up their guild only to watch other guilds get an easy button while they are stuck at a level. Not to mention, I never had large guilds recruiting vets from my guild in the past but I've received 2 reports of it since the change. This has been reported by other small guilds on other servers as well.
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