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    Default Pugging on Khyber.

    It seems that we've overcome the learning curve on Khyber. I've been pugging a lot on Disavowed's third life and I have to say I've yet to be in a pug that I've joined or led that has sucked. Some newbies here and there but they weren't noobs. They asked good questions and wanted to learn. One knew his toon sucked when it came to HP and asked for some help on how to fix it. I gave him some gear and 20 tapestries for a minos helm and heavy fort and it was like a whole new toon. Dude listened well and took my advice about coming to the forms. It's kind of like the old Reidra/Khyber days before FTP fun, pleasnt, pugging where quests get done fast and efficient and the newbies want and try to learn.

    Maybe the Mayans are right the world is coming to an end.
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    I hate to break it to you, but the Mayans predicted nothing but a flip of their calendar. We do it every year and only occasionally does a doomsday cult form around the event.


    Anyway, I haven't really pugged my heroic-level toons in a while, but epics seem OK for the most part. Raids are getting dull though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Contrex View Post
    I hate to break it to you, but the Mayans predicted nothing but a flip of their calendar. We do it every year and only occasionally does a doomsday cult form around the event.
    For the record. Yes I know this, and I think most others do too. It was an attempt at humor, but I guess a poor one. Or some folks just take things too serious and can't see humor when reading text.
    If the toon is named after a beer 17 of them are mine & 1 more not named after a beer (the black sheep of the family). Beware there are a few beer imposters out there. Unless the toon has been "Banned From All Guilds" it's a fake Beer_Dude. Fake Beer in your group leaves a nasty taste.

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    Seems to me there no where as many pugs as there use to be so maybe that why things "seem" better lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beer_Dude View Post
    For the record. Yes I know this, and I think most others do too. It was an attempt at humor, but I guess a poor one. Or some folks just take things too serious and can't see humor when reading text.
    Um, I didn't assume you're being serious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Contrex View Post
    Um, I didn't assume you're being serious.
    My bad. Hard to tell from text. No voice inflection or gestures to see an overtone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilkofDrasnia View Post
    Seems to me there no where as many pugs as there use to be so maybe that why things "seem" better lol
    But back then joining a PUG was pretty much the same as joing a run with your guildies. In a way the server was like one giant guild. Everyone pretty much knew each other and everyone's alts too. I don't know what to make of it but I will say the quality of PUGS is far batter now than say 18 months ago. Now it's more like it was 5+ years ago.
    If the toon is named after a beer 17 of them are mine & 1 more not named after a beer (the black sheep of the family). Beware there are a few beer imposters out there. Unless the toon has been "Banned From All Guilds" it's a fake Beer_Dude. Fake Beer in your group leaves a nasty taste.

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    This thread has too many Mayans and not enough making fun of pugs.




    @Beer: My limited observations seem to support your conclusion sir. Don't know the cause, however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat-Head View Post
    This thread has too many Mayans and not enough making fun of pugs.




    @Beer: My limited observations seem to support your conclusion sir. Don't know the cause, however.
    Nor do I Meat but I have to say it's nice regardless of the cause because I really do hate soling stuff. I can do it no problem but I play for the social aspect of the game.
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    Your beer to pug ratio might have been a bit high when you experienced this wave of decent pugs.

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    You just haven't had the pleasure of me joining one of your pugs Eric... I will keep an eye out since I have a couple of tr's going at the moment... we both know I can make anything simple well...... complicated

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunga View Post
    Your beer to pug ratio might have been a bit high when you experienced this wave of decent pugs.
    That is always a possibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunga View Post
    Your beer to pug ratio might have been a bit high when you experienced this wave of decent pugs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluwaterseawitch View Post
    You just haven't had the pleasure of me joining one of your pugs Eric... I will keep an eye out since I have a couple of tr's going at the moment... we both know I can make anything simple well...... complicated
    What levels. Dis is 14 heading to GH soon. I can't speed TR like Gunga does. Dude is the man when it comes to TRing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hordo View Post
    Gunga, Cloey, Sthase and I have discovered some real winners...
    I think that just follows you regardless of the rest of the server.
    If the toon is named after a beer 17 of them are mine & 1 more not named after a beer (the black sheep of the family). Beware there are a few beer imposters out there. Unless the toon has been "Banned From All Guilds" it's a fake Beer_Dude. Fake Beer in your group leaves a nasty taste.

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    I personally would pitch that there aren't nearly as many top tier players as there used to be either so relative to that the pugs may seem better because there is less of a divide or less of a gap between the top and bottom (generally speaking)

    obviously going to be a big gap between the very best and very worst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ResEvil6370 View Post
    I personally would pitch that there aren't nearly as many top tier players as there used to be either so relative to that the pugs may seem better because there is less of a divide or less of a gap between the top and bottom (generally speaking)

    obviously going to be a big gap between the very best and very worst.
    Noble attempt. But you can't mask stupid with a bell curve. Bad pugs are bad because they are noobs, not because the top quality of the server is high.

    For my own 2 cents, I've seen a mix of good and bad. Might be a time of day issue.
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    Yes pugging is a lot better on Khyber now.

    My opinion on this however isn't because there are fewer bad players, but rather because there now seems to be far fewer elitist 'top tier' ***** playing the game. I have been able to put up any LFM or join any group recently and everyone now seems to be capable of having fun, rather than getting angry and abusive over anyone that dies or isn't familiar with the quest.

    I like this new change on Khyber, I hope the elitists stay away and don't come back, we don't need you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickademus42 View Post
    not because the top quality of the server is high.
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    My point was the "top quality" players of the server is nowhere near the standard they used to be, nor is the amount of them.

    Plus game changes have made playing easier to be honest.....I'd be hesitant to think that its beginners getting better.

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    I find that things are usually good.

    Had a shocking shroud the other day though, I'll admit I was lazy in throwing it together and basically just accepted the first 11 applicants, but we ended up doing normal because we only had one main healer and even then it was a fustercluck, the crowning glory of it being that someone hit the end altar before people could recall. I was not amused.

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