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    Default Arty/Monk - Completionist Build - Needs Feedback

    I am getting ready to start working towards completionist (yes I know TRs are not quite as important anymore, doing it for the sake of doing it) and I am not overly interested in messing with each individual class. As a result I am trying to put together a build (possibly 2) so I can just fly through them with roughly the same tactics/gear/etc...

    The character I currently plan to use is my Artificer who is also my crafter. His crafting is already 104/103/103 and I intend to continue to working on it as I TR by re-using some of the easy recipes as they reset each life.

    Anyways, after doing some reading I found a lot of people suggest some sort of Arti/evasion build but I did not see any specific builds floating around that fit what I was looking for.

    So this build (see below) is what I have so far, and I am open to any/all feedback. I only ask that you tell me the why behind your feedback so I know where you're coming from. I am even open to suggestions for other splits that I should use, even if they're only for a specific group of lives.


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    Character Generated Using: DDO Character Generator
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    Artificer 9 / Monk 2
    Female Warforged - Lawful Neutral
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    PAST LIVES SELECTED:
    Artificer (1)
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    LEVEL 1
    Race Selected: Female Warforged
    Alignment Selected: Lawful Neutral
    Class Selected: Artificer (Artificer 1)
    Abilities Raised: STR: 10, DEX: 14, CON: 18, INT: 18
    Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +2 (2), Concentration +4 (4),
    Disable Device +4 (4), Jump +2 (2), Open Lock +4 (4),
    Search +4 (4), Spot +4 (4), UMD +4 (4)
    Feats Selected: Point Blank Shot
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    LEVEL 2:
    Class Selected: Monk (Artificer 1 / Monk 1)
    Skills Ranks Raised: Disable Device +1 (5),
    Open Lock +1 (5), Search +1 (5), UMD +1 (5)
    Feats Selected: Toughness
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    LEVEL 3:
    Class Selected: Monk (Monk 2 / Artificer 1)
    Skills Ranks Raised: Disable Device +1 (6),
    Open Lock +1 (6), Search +1 (6), UMD +1 (6)
    Feats Selected: Rapid Shot, Toughness
    Tomes Applied: DEX: +1, CON: +1, INT: +1, WIS: +1, CHA: +1
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    LEVEL 4:
    Class Selected: Artificer (Artificer 2 / Monk 2)
    Abilities Raised: INT: 20
    Skills Ranks Raised: Concentration +2 (6), Disable Device +1 (7),
    Open Lock +1 (7), Search +1 (7), Spot +3 (7), UMD +1 (7)
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    LEVEL 5:
    Class Selected: Artificer (Artificer 3 / Monk 2)
    Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +0.5 (2.5), Concentration +2 (8),
    Disable Device +1 (8), Jump +0.5 (2.5), Open Lock +1 (8),
    Search +1 (8), Spot +1 (8), UMD +1 (8)
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    LEVEL 6:
    Class Selected: Artificer (Artificer 4 / Monk 2)
    Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +0.5 (3), Concentration +1 (9),
    Disable Device +1 (9), Jump +1 (3.5), Open Lock +1 (9),
    Search +1 (9), Spot +1 (9), UMD +1 (9)
    Feats Selected: Insightful Reflexes, Precise Shot
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    LEVEL 7:
    Class Selected: Artificer (Artificer 5 / Monk 2)
    Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (4), Concentration +1 (10),
    Disable Device +1 (10), Jump +0.5 (4), Open Lock +1 (10),
    Search +1 (10), Spot +1 (10), UMD +1 (10)
    Tomes Applied: DEX: +2, CON: +2, INT: +2, WIS: +2, CHA: +2
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    LEVEL 8:
    Class Selected: Artificer (Artificer 6 / Monk 2)
    Abilities Raised: INT: 22
    Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (5), Concentration +1 (11),
    Disable Device +1 (11), Jump +1 (5), Open Lock +1 (11),
    Search +1 (11), Spot +1 (11), UMD +1 (11)
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    LEVEL 9:
    Class Selected: Artificer (Artificer 7 / Monk 2)
    Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (6), Concentration +1 (12),
    Disable Device +1 (12), Jump +1 (6), Open Lock +1 (12),
    Search +1 (12), Spot +1 (12), UMD +1 (12)
    Feats Selected: Spell Focus (Evocation)
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    LEVEL 10:
    Class Selected: Artificer (Artificer 8 / Monk 2)
    Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (7), Concentration +1 (13),
    Disable Device +1 (13), Jump +1 (7), Open Lock +1 (13),
    Search +1 (13), Spot +1 (13), UMD +1 (13)
    Feats Selected: Maximize Spell
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    LEVEL 11:
    Class Selected: Artificer (Artificer 9 / Monk 2)
    Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (8), Concentration +1 (14),
    Disable Device +1 (14), Jump +1 (8), Open Lock +1 (14),
    Search +1 (14), Spot +1 (14), UMD +1 (14)
    Stats at End of Level 11:
    HP:171 SP:438 AC:15 FORT:11 REFL:12 WILL:8 BAB:+8/+8/+13/+18
    STR:10(0) DEX:16(+3) CON:20(+5) INT:22(+6) WIS:8(-1) CHA:8(-1)
    Balance:11, Bluff:-1, Concentration:19, Diplomacy:-1,
    Disable Device:20, Haggle:-1, Heal:-1, Hide:3, Intimidate:-1,
    Jump:8, Listen:-1, Move Silently:3, Open Lock:17, Perform: n/a,
    Repair:6, Search:20, Spot:13, Swim:0, Tumble: n/a, UMD:14
    As it sits I am seriously considering Rogue for the evasion splash just because of the synergy potential of mechanic if I take it far enough. Thoughts?

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    I have run this build for about 5 of past lives.

    I prefer the monk splash over the rogue for the extra feats. You can never have too many feats. It allows me to pick up insightful reflexes which is great on a high int toon with evasion. I usually burn the a feat on dodge since the monk feats are of limited use beyond toughness. The dodge from the feat stacks with the 4% dodge you get from the 2 monk levels.

    The only time I used rogue was for the barbarian and bard lives when alignment was an issue.

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    I would also recommend that you take Arty for the first three levels. The second level of arty will let you use runearms which add dps to your attacks. The third level should give you the elemental weapons spell which will add 1d6 dmg to your attacks also.

    Evasion is nice, but you should be able to survive till level 5 without it. Damage is king at low levels if you want to level quick and easy.

    I would also switch out the Evo feat with rapid reload. Most of you damage comes from your repeater. Faster firing = more damage. 1 extra DC on your rune arm shots will not help as much.

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    I ran this 9/2 arti/monk build for few lives also.

    I always take toughness and precision for monk bonus feats.

    I have a L2 Heavy Repeater at level 12 so for the most part, dps is enough to cap.

    Also, since my build is 36 points, I split it this way.

    Str 8
    Dex 16 (+3 dex tome for IPS)
    Con 13
    Int 18
    Wis 8
    Cha 13

    I go with h-elf with pally dillie (hence the 13 cha) for +5 to all resist.
    With intelligent reflex, +5 pally dillie, +1 path of monkey (I think), +2 from rogue life when u get it, your trap reflex will be very high... Mine is high 40ish at level 13 or so.

    As far as healing goes, I have no problem with wands and just using heal scrolls when I can UMD it.

    Feats I take

    PBS
    Rapid Shot
    Precision
    Toughness
    Precise Shot
    Improved Precise Shot
    IC-range

    everything else is optional for me and depends on what the last 9 levels are going to be.
    I wouldn't bother with Spell focus or maximize (unless u go WF for repair spells) with only 9 levels of arti.

    Anyways, hope that help. Just my take on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warlord1427 View Post
    I would also switch out the Evo feat with rapid reload. Most of you damage comes from your repeater. Faster firing = more damage. 1 extra DC on your rune arm shots will not help as much.
    Thought Rapid Reload was auto-granted for artificers?

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    Since you both have done this build for a few lives, which gear is essential?

    Obviously the L2 Repeater, but anything else? Note that I have the ability to make any House C challenge items with relative ease and obviously crafting is no issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sqrlmonger View Post
    Thought Rapid Reload was auto-granted for artificers?
    Rapid Reload is. Rapid Shot is not, but it will increase your dps and you took it already.
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    Thanks for the info and feedback guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sqrlmonger View Post
    Thought Rapid Reload was auto-granted for artificers?
    Sorry, I was working from memory. I knew it was rapid something. Rapid reload came to mind first. Take rapid shot.


    In regards to gear:

    If you have the nimble trinket from cove, use that. a 20% perm blur is always nice.
    Windhowler bracers are a must from the blockade quest.
    Beholder docent is good if you go warforged. You can +10 reflex saves to it which is nice when you have evasion. it also will block casting on crits, so it is great against casters.
    spectral gloves are always nice to have

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krumm View Post
    I ran this 9/2 arti/monk build for few lives also.

    I always take toughness and precision for monk bonus feats.

    I have a L2 Heavy Repeater at level 12 so for the most part, dps is enough to cap.

    Also, since my build is 36 points, I split it this way.

    Str 8
    Dex 16 (+3 dex tome for IPS)
    Con 13
    Int 18
    Wis 8
    Cha 13

    I go with h-elf with pally dillie (hence the 13 cha) for +5 to all resist.
    With intelligent reflex, +5 pally dillie, +1 path of monkey (I think), +2 from rogue life when u get it, your trap reflex will be very high... Mine is high 40ish at level 13 or so.

    As far as healing goes, I have no problem with wands and just using heal scrolls when I can UMD it.

    Feats I take

    PBS
    Rapid Shot
    Precision
    Toughness
    Precise Shot
    Improved Precise Shot
    IC-range

    everything else is optional for me and depends on what the last 9 levels are going to be.
    I wouldn't bother with Spell focus or maximize (unless u go WF for repair spells) with only 9 levels of arti.

    Anyways, hope that help. Just my take on it.
    Just now putting all of this information together into a package and noticed the helf pally dilly suggestion, I was under the impression that this bonus capped at 2, not 5? Am I missing something?

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    This is what I am currently leaning towards - took some advice and made some small modifications.

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    Character Generated Using: DDO Character Generator
    Direct Link to Build: http://www.ddochargen.com/home.aspx?build=35863
    
    Artificer 9 / Monk 2
    Female Warforged - Lawful Neutral
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    PAST LIVES SELECTED:
    Artificer (1)
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    LEVEL 1
    Race Selected: Female Warforged
    Alignment Selected: Lawful Neutral
    Class Selected: Artificer (Artificer 1)
    Abilities Raised: STR: 10, DEX: 16, CON: 16, INT: 18
    Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +2 (2), Concentration +4 (4),
    Disable Device +4 (4), Jump +2 (2), Open Lock +4 (4),
    Search +4 (4), Spot +4 (4), UMD +4 (4)
    Feats Selected: Point Blank Shot
    Automatic Feats Granted: Past Life (Artificer),
    Attack, Heroic Durability, Sneak, Composite Plating,
    Light Fortification, Magical Training, Warforged Immunities,
    Simple Weapons, Exotic Weapons (Great Crossbow), Exotic Weapons (Repeating Light Crossbow),
    Exotic Weapons (Repeating Heavy Crossbow), Light Armor Proficiency,
    Medium Armor Proficiency, Shield Proficiency (General),
    Artificer Construct Mastery, Inscribe Infusion, Unleash Iron Defender,
    Reanimate Construct, Artificer Knowledge (Scrolls), Rapid Reload
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    LEVEL 2:
    Class Selected: Artificer (Artificer 2)
    Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +0.5 (2.5), Concentration +1 (5),
    Disable Device +1 (5), Jump +0.5 (2.5), Open Lock +1 (5),
    Search +1 (5), Spot +1 (5), UMD +1 (5)
    Automatic Feats Granted: Defensive Fighting,
    Sunder, Trip, Rune Arm Use, Artificer Craft Mastery,
    Artificer Knowledge (Potions)
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    LEVEL 3:
    Class Selected: Artificer (Artificer 3)
    Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +0.5 (3), Concentration +1 (6),
    Disable Device +1 (6), Jump +0.5 (3), Open Lock +1 (6),
    Search +1 (6), Spot +1 (6), UMD +1 (6)
    Feats Selected: Rapid Shot
    Tomes Applied: STR: +1, DEX: +1, CON: +1, INT: +1,
    WIS: +1, CHA: +1
    Automatic Feats Granted: Artificer Knowledge (Wands)
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    LEVEL 4:
    Class Selected: Monk (Artificer 3 / Monk 1)
    Abilities Raised: INT: 20
    Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (4), Concentration +1 (7),
    Disable Device +1 (7), Jump +2 (5), Search +1 (7), Spot +1 (7)
    Feats Selected: Toughness
    Automatic Feats Granted: Armor Class Bonus (Wisdom),
    Disciple of Breezes, Disciple of Pebbles, Finishing Moves,
    Flurry of Blows, Unarmed Strike, Martial Weapons (Handaxe),
    Exotic Weapons (Kama), Exotic Weapons (Shuriken)
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    LEVEL 5:
    Class Selected: Monk (Artificer 3 / Monk 2)
    Skills Ranks Raised: Concentration +1 (8), Disable Device +1 (8),
    Jump +1 (6), Open Lock +1 (7), Search +1 (8), Spot +1 (8)
    Feats Selected: Precision
    Automatic Feats Granted: Armor Class Bonus,
    Evasion, Meditation
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    LEVEL 6:
    Class Selected: Artificer (Artificer 4 / Monk 2)
    Skills Ranks Raised: Concentration +1 (9), Disable Device +1 (9),
    Open Lock +2 (9), Search +1 (9), Spot +1 (9), UMD +3 (9)
    Feats Selected: Insightful Reflexes, Precise Shot
    Automatic Feats Granted: Trapmaking
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    LEVEL 7:
    Class Selected: Artificer (Artificer 5 / Monk 2)
    Skills Ranks Raised: Concentration +1 (10),
    Disable Device +1 (10), Jump +1.5 (7.5), Open Lock +1 (10),
    Search +1 (10), Spot +1 (10), UMD +1 (10)
    Tomes Applied: STR: +2, DEX: +2, CON: +2, INT: +2,
    WIS: +2, CHA: +2
    Automatic Feats Granted: Retain Essence, Artificer Knowledge (Arms and Armor)
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    LEVEL 8:
    Class Selected: Artificer (Artificer 6 / Monk 2)
    Abilities Raised: INT: 22
    Skills Ranks Raised: Concentration +1 (11),
    Disable Device +1 (11), Jump +2 (9.5), Open Lock +1 (11),
    Search +1 (11), Spot +1 (11), UMD +1 (11)
    Automatic Feats Granted: Disciple of Candles
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    LEVEL 9:
    Class Selected: Artificer (Artificer 7 / Monk 2)
    Skills Ranks Raised: Concentration +1 (12),
    Disable Device +1 (12), Jump +2 (11.5), Open Lock +1 (12),
    Search +1 (12), Spot +1 (12), UMD +1 (12)
    Feats Selected: Quick Draw
    Automatic Feats Granted: Artificer Knowledge (Wondrous Items)
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    LEVEL 10:
    Class Selected: Artificer (Artificer 8 / Monk 2)
    Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +0.5 (4.5), Concentration +1 (13),
    Disable Device +1 (13), Jump +1.5 (13), Open Lock +1 (13),
    Search +1 (13), Spot +1 (13), UMD +1 (13)
    Feats Selected: Maximize Spell
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    LEVEL 11:
    Class Selected: Artificer (Artificer 9 / Monk 2)
    Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (5.5), Concentration +1 (14),
    Disable Device +1 (14), Jump +1 (14), Open Lock +1 (14),
    Search +1 (14), Spot +1 (14), UMD +1 (14)
    Tomes Applied: DEX: +3, INT: +3
    Stats at End of Level 11:
    HP:147 SP:438 AC:16 FORT:10 REFL:12 WILL:8 BAB:+8/+8/+13/+18
    STR:12(+1) DEX:19(+4) CON:18(+4) INT:23(+6) WIS:8(-1) CHA:8(-1)
    Balance:9.5, Bluff:-1, Concentration:18, Diplomacy:-1,
    Disable Device:20, Haggle:-1, Heal:-1, Hide:4, Intimidate:-1,
    Jump:15, Listen:-1, Move Silently:4, Open Lock:18,
    Perform: n/a, Repair:6, Search:20, Spot:13, Swim:1,
    Tumble: n/a, UMD:14
    Now I just need to put together a set of gear.
    Last edited by Sqrlmonger; 12-07-2012 at 03:02 PM.

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    TR'd this evening and now on my way to completionist.

    Thanks again for the feedback folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sqrlmonger View Post
    TR'd this evening and now on my way to completionist.

    Thanks again for the feedback folks.
    Long overdue update.....I finally completed this project.

    I got about 6 or 7 lives in the first couple of months after my last post, but then took a long 4 year break from DDO, a few months after I got back I've managed to grind through lives still pretty much using this exact build for every life with a couple of exceptions for iconic lives that I felt I had better builds for. I did a 20 pally life for Bladeforged (had an eSoS so might as well), a 18 wiz/2 rog life for deep gnome, and a 9 rog/9 fighter/2 arty for PDK.

    I even wrapped up a number of epic PLs in the process, but plenty more to go for epic completionist which is my next project (and will hopefully take a lot less time).

    Anyways,

    ***Langauge Warning***:

    I AM COMPLETE!!!!
    Are you a Reaper 10 God? Tell me all about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sqrlmonger View Post
    Long overdue update.....I finally completed this project.
    Congratulations on your accomplishment!
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