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    Quote Originally Posted by connerj View Post
    Str16 dex11 con16 int11 wis15 cha8
    I'm still not sure why you pumped up WIS so much; extra AC & Will saves, yes, but does that really help this build?
    Quote Originally Posted by Buddrow View Post
    I don't understand how you plan on staying centered not using ki weapons.
    Whirling Steel Strike (WSS) feat makes longswords into ki weapons. Unfortunately, it doesn't magically turn them into good DPS weapons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by connerj View Post
    Lol, i might switch whirlwind attack but no way for combat expertise, cant use while using precision. sooo..... slicing blow is defintaley toughness.
    You can't get Whirlwind Attack without CE
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    Halfling thrower builds are fun.

    Of course the trick is in knowing just how to bend the halfling...otherwise they never come back.

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    Ok, i know. The feats will be calculated ina second. LONGSWORDS=MONK WEAPONS!!! The dps will be good, considering off -hand attacks and Double-strikes. And this (IS) tested- Confront any foe for the paladin Epic Destiny will hit 3 times for 1 longsword. it will hit 6 times with tempest II. if i doublestrike, it could hit up to 8 times.
    Doublestrike:attack 2 times. O.K. [1 attack+1(doublestrike)]X2(Tempest II). Sooo....... that should do 80d80 EXTRA light damage, not even counting effects from the alchemical longsword/GS longsword listed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by connerj View Post
    Doublestrike:attack 2 times. O.K. [1 attack+1(doublestrike)]X2(Tempest II). Sooo....... that should do 80d80 EXTRA light damage, not even counting effects from the alchemical longsword/GS longsword listed.
    This is just all lies... the damage of "Confront any Foe" is 10d10, not 10d80. Also, I don't know how you get 8 times to hit there. Your calculations even says it's 4. so 40d10 would be much closer guess...
    Quote Originally Posted by amnota View Post
    Halfling thrower builds are fun.

    Of course the trick is in knowing just how to bend the halfling...otherwise they never come back.

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    Nevermind, I obviously need to spend more of my enhancement points in actually reading Common English...
    Last edited by Sir_Noob; 11-14-2012 at 12:13 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Noob View Post
    Sorry, this is incorrect.
    As per the Wiki:

    Whirling Steel Strike
    ◦Usage: Passive
    ◦Prerequisite:

    ◦Weapon Focus: Slashing
    ◦Monk Level 1
    ◦one of following;
    ◦Proficiency: Longswords, Favored by the Sovereign Host, or Half-Elf race with Fighter dilettante.
    Description
    You treat longswords as if they were monk weapons, remaining centered when you wield them.

    Note
    ◦A fighter may select this feat as one of his fighter bonus feats.
    ◦A monk may select this feat as one of his martial arts feats.

    As you see, Combat Expertise is not mentioned anywhere in the Description.
    Wrong feat...

    Whirlwind Attack

    Cooldown: 5 seconds
    Usage: Active
    Prerequisite: Combat Expertise, Spring Attack (which would require Dodge and Mobility as well), base attack bonus of +4 or higher
    Description
    This feat attacks all enemies in a 360 degree arc around the character. This attack deals +4[W] damage.
    Quote Originally Posted by amnota View Post
    Halfling thrower builds are fun.

    Of course the trick is in knowing just how to bend the halfling...otherwise they never come back.

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    LOL, Dog gone it, you were quick with the reply!
    Cheers!
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    Haha,WHATS 8X10d10???? 80d80!!
    Doublestikre lets you strike 2 times.
    1 strike
    2strike(doublestrike)
    and then you offhand will occur
    4 striker with chance to double strike
    total of 4 main and 4 off hand. 80d80 comes from fthe 10d10 of confront, wich multiplied by your attacks make 80d80.
    I am taking combat expertise and whirlwind instead of other feats. +2 tome to INT required.
    And YES AC/SAVES MATTER VERY MUCH IN THIS BUILD!!!(EVASION)
    already have dode/mobility for tempest I

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    Default drow tempest

    Could be another interesting thought when the Enhancement Changes happen in U17. A Drow Lvl 20 Monk with the Racial Tempest PRE. That's a lot of combined DPS, AC and Speed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by connerj View Post
    Haha,WHATS 8X10d10???? 80d80!!
    You're wrong. You're throwing a 10-sided dice 8 times for damage. The dice doesn't suddenly go up to 80-sided die.

    Doublestikre lets you strike 2 times.
    1 strike
    2strike(doublestrike)
    and then you offhand will occur
    4 striker with chance to double strike
    total of 4 main and 4 off hand.
    This is wrong, too. You already said "off-hand" in there, you can't use it twice.

    1 hit
    + 1 if doublestrike
    + 1 off-hand hit
    + 1 if off-hand's doublestrike
    = 4

    No more, no less.
    Quote Originally Posted by amnota View Post
    Halfling thrower builds are fun.

    Of course the trick is in knowing just how to bend the halfling...otherwise they never come back.

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    1 main hit doublestrike maikes it two doublestriked off-hand maeks ait 3 hits total is 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by connerj View Post
    1 main hit doublestrike maikes it two doublestriked off-hand maeks ait 3 hits total is 5.
    No, you can't doublestrike a doublestrike
    Quote Originally Posted by amnota View Post
    Halfling thrower builds are fun.

    Of course the trick is in knowing just how to bend the halfling...otherwise they never come back.

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    anyway enough. i thinbk ur rioght
    pls check and varify this build. i want tp make this happen. maybe 90 STR IS reachable. we culd try for 100 if we can get UMD. MAYBE
    http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=398362

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    Quote Originally Posted by connerj View Post
    Haha,WHATS 8X10d10???? 80d80!!
    That's not how dice-roll math works. 8 * (10d10) is really (8 * 10)d10 = 80d10, not 80d80. You don't magically grow the dice by rolling them more often!
    Doublestikre lets you strike 2 times.
    1 strike
    2strike(doublestrike)
    and then you offhand will occur
    4 striker with chance to double strike
    total of 4 main and 4 off hand.
    Either I misunderstand you or you're mis-stating that, because Doublestrike bonuses only apply to main-hand weapons; and as pelaaja says, you can't proc a doublestrike from a doublestrike (would that we could!). So at best you will have 4 strikes on a successful atk roll: main-hand, off-hand proc, main-hand doublestrike, off-hand proc from doublestrike.
    And YES AC/SAVES MATTER VERY MUCH IN THIS BUILD!!!(EVASION)
    already have dode/mobility for tempest I
    FYI, Dodge bonuses no longer add to your AC, they add to a separate miss chance. Also the AC changes mean the incremental benefits from, say, a few extra pts of WIS are almost negligible. Not saying defenses don't matter, just saying you should study up on how combat system works post-U14.
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    please then tell me how i used this light attack to deal over 1700 points of light damage and alchemical bonuses, adding up to around 3000 damage. PLEASE.

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    80d10 still gives you at max of 800 light damage. If the enemy you were testing at it was a vampire, well there you have your answer. Vampires take 4x more damage from light damage, meaning your damage would go as high as 2400 damage.

    Another solution is simple: Adrenaline.

    Other than that, I think you're over-exaggerating. Your chance to do that high damage is like I'd do 2000 damage with my monk by not using EiN or spike attacks (Lightning, Disintegration wraps): It's very situational, doesn't tell at all about your build, and if you can do it, then possibly everyone can do it
    Quote Originally Posted by amnota View Post
    Halfling thrower builds are fun.

    Of course the trick is in knowing just how to bend the halfling...otherwise they never come back.

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