currently trying out this build, currently lvl12 and having lots of fun. when it gets full stacks on fatal harrier it looks like im on steroids lol. changed a bit the lvls and some feats to adequate to my play-style, but overall very solid! ty +1
What gear are you currently using?
Here is my version. I called her “Young Pup”. Basically she is an undecided student, who studied to be a monk, then decided to study druid, then change to fighter… she’s just not sure what to major in is all. Anyway, I’m not even sure if I did a good job but I tried to follow your advice, as well as took some ideas from WeberCC’s version. She may need some work but I managed to get HP to 350 and over 500 SP. I only did 1-20 because I've no idea about Epics either so if someone wants to add the epic levels that would be helpful. But I think the point of this build is to be first life and then TR? I'm interested in knowing about tomes and would like to hear some advice on what levels I should add them and to what abilities. But please keep in mind that as a new player funds are low and getting tomes from the DDO store is probably the only way I'll be able to do it but too many tomes will be too expensive.
Code:Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.16.01 DDO Character Planner Home Page Young Pup Level 20 Lawful Neutral Human Female (2 Fighter \ 9 Monk \ 9 Druid) Hit Points: 350 Spell Points: 546 BAB: 14\14\19\24 Fortitude: 17 Reflex: 11 Will: 14 Starting Feat/Enhancement Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats (28 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) Strength 15 23 Dexterity 14 14 Constitution 14 14 Intelligence 10 10 Wisdom 14 15 Charisma 8 8 Starting Feat/Enhancement Base Skills Modified Skills Skills (Level 1) (Level 20) Balance 6 21 Bluff -1 -1 Concentration 6 26 Diplomacy -1 -1 Disable Device n/a n/a Haggle -1 -1 Heal 2 2 Hide 5 20 Intimidate -1 -1 Jump 2 12 Listen 2 2 Move Silently 6 21 Open Lock n/a n/a Perform n/a n/a Repair 0 0 Search 0 0 Spot 6 23 Swim 2 6 Tumble 3 6 Use Magic Device n/a n/a Level 1 (Monk) Feat: (Human Bonus) Dodge Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist Feat: (Selected) Toughness Level 2 (Druid) Enhancement: Druid Blood Moon Frenzy I Enhancement: Druid Eminence of Hoarfrost I Enhancement: Druid Eminence of Life I Enhancement: Druid Toughness I Level 3 (Druid) Feat: (Selected) Power Attack Feat: (Druid Wild Shape) Wild Shape: Wolf Enhancement: Druid Aggravate I Enhancement: Racial Toughness I Enhancement: Druid Wisdom I Level 4 (Druid) Ability Raise: STR Enhancement: Druid Beastial Nature I Enhancement: Druid Waxing Hoarfrost I Enhancement: Druid Waxing Life I Level 5 (Druid) Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I Enhancement: Druid Strength I Enhancement: Druid Toughness II Level 6 (Druid) Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell Feat: (Druid Wild Shape) Wild Shape: Bear Enhancement: Druid Essence of the Shrike I Enhancement: Druid Vengeful Hunter I Enhancement: Racial Toughness II Level 7 (Druid) Enhancement: Druid Nature's Warrior I Level 8 (Druid) Ability Raise: STR Enhancement: Druid Aggravate II Enhancement: Druid Blood Moon Frenzy II Enhancement: Druid Reaving Roar Level 9 (Druid) Feat: (Selected) Cleave Feat: (Druid Wild Shape) Wild Shape: Winter Wolf Enhancement: Druid Eminence of Hoarfrost II Enhancement: Druid Eminence of Life II Level 10 (Druid) Enhancement: Druid Strength II Level 11 (Monk) Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I Enhancement: Void Strike I Enhancement: Druid Zenith of Hoarfrost I Enhancement: Druid Zenith of Life I Level 12 (Fighter) Ability Raise: STR Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons Feat: (Selected) Natural Fighting Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I Enhancement: Druid Toughness III Level 13 (Monk) Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I Level 14 (Monk) Enhancement: Static Charge Enhancement: Improved Jump I Enhancement: Improved Jump II Enhancement: Improved Tumble I Enhancement: Improved Tumble II Level 15 (Monk) Feat: (Selected) Natural Fighting Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise II Level 16 (Monk) Ability Raise: STR Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy I Enhancement: Adept of Wind Level 17 (Monk) Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery II Level 18 (Monk) Feat: (Selected) Natural Fighting Enhancement: Void Strike II Level 19 (Monk) Level 20 (Fighter) Ability Raise: STR Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Zen Archery Enhancement: Improved Concentration I Enhancement: Improved Jump III Enhancement: Improved Tumble III Enhancement: Druid Zenith of Hoarfrost II Enhancement: Druid Zenith of Life II Enhancement: Druid Energy of the Locus I Enhancement: Druid Energy of the Locus II
How does this build stack up now?
Also, any particular reason for wraps over say 2 kamas (off hand for things like devo, stunning, vertigo, seeker)?
Last edited by willienillie; 02-22-2014 at 11:28 PM.
Still stacks up great. There are a few things you can do to optimise this build now. The optimum levelling order is 2 monk, 9 druid, 7 monk, 2 fighter. Leave dex at 12, requires +5 dex tome, but allows you a stat distribution of:
18 (all level ups here)/12/14/8/16/8
1. Cleave 1H. Power attack 1M. Stunning Fist.
3. PL: Monk (or completionist if you have it).
6. Great Cleave
9. Empower Healing.
12. IC: Bludgeon
15. Natural Fighting 6M. TWF
18. Master of Forms
1F. ITWF (level 19, your +5 dex tome kicks in here allowing you to pick up ITWF and GTWF with fighter levels)
21. Overwhelming critical
24. Natural Fighting.
27. Natural Fighting
All 3 natural fighting feats = 18% doublestrike, master of forms for earth stance +1 crit multiplier, Full TWF with shintao +10% for 90% offhand chance (if you didn't know TWF works currently in druid animal forms). If you can then pick up the 3 EPLs for the additional 9% doublestrike toggle, 8% doublestrike item and ptwf, you're looking at 40% standing doublestrike (may have even missed some here). Stunning fist DCs are perfectly adequate for EE. You have improved evasion, good PRR from earth stance/shintao/standing in stone twist, shadow veil. Pick up displace clickies for invincibility mode. I think the dice come out as: 1[d10] + 1 monk levels + .5 monk past life + .5 reinforced fists + 2 epic wraps (+2.5 with ee addy knuckles) + 1.5 dance of flowers = 6.5 (or 7)[d10] 17 - 18 x3 / 19 - 20 x 5 (x 6 with any of the ED improved crit effects like primal avatar or LD). Truly insane.
Use wraps for increased die steps at epic levels, level using GS kamas or shortswords.
Also great as a levelling template for heroic PLs, just take 2 monk, 9 druid, 9 past life. Google pastlifenmo for this purpose, but for an end-game build nothing beats the 9 monk for value.
Also, why handwraps and not any other weapon?
Also, why dodge feat?
Finally, why strength based, and not dex or wis based? (makes getting OC easier I know, but that can be achieved while going either dex or Wis based too, and both those seem more appealing, no?
This is definitely not final consensus because there are several drunk builds around, but I have a similar toon like this build and it's working much better than my barbarian. And the build itself is a good wolf/drunk build and belongs to my favourite ones because it even works with bad equipment because with improved evasion you don't need to care about your saves that much. If you think that you don't need improved evasion I would suggest a slightly different split probably.
You need to use handwraps to get all the +die step effects of monks working. At level 28 with TF you can get to 8W(1d10) this way. If you would use a standard weapon this would drop to around 3-4W I think(maybe less, not sure about the mechanic atm). Not sure about other builds but especially if you are not geared out to the top this makes a big difference of damage numbers you are going to see.
Some players say SWF+TWF would be better dps wise, but that would be a different split and the swf+twf mechanic is not working as intended and might suddently stop working with an upcoming patch/update.
About the dodge feat: 3% dodge isn't that bad and it is needed for the animal stance to be knockdown immune(four legged god or something) and one of the monk attacks that gives additional dodge for some seconds.
My 'problem' with drunks was always that I have too many feat slots in the early levels and not enough after level 12+, that's why I went with 1-9 druid before getting first monk level for my own toon so I could take my first natural fighting with level 9 already(allowing me to take an additional tier of monk stance at level 18). But you are probably going to notice a difference dps wise with the early monk levels beeing better. But starting with druid wasn't that bad, at least from my point of view.
It's definitely still a very good build (although it was posted some years ago already) which has good chances to survive a rework of the devs to twf working in animal form. At least last thing I heard was that they won't touch this feature without reworking the natural fighting feats. So I would guess that natural fighting would be buffed if twf stops working in animal form, since this build has both it should still be playable after such a change.
About the str,wis or dex... I am not sure how well wis to atk/dmg and dex to atk/dmg is going to work with handwraps or if you need weapon finess to get it working. But str is still a valid choice (especially for dps) because it's still easier to buff str than wis or dex. But wis would be better for the DC of stunning fist. But atm I am not sure how you want to get wis working as atk and dmg mod in animal form. Without the str requirement for OC it's definitely easier to take dex or wis as main stat. But I can't tell you how much the difference is going to be dps wise.
Last edited by Shinjiteru; 10-05-2014 at 07:03 PM.
For inspiredunease - I'm trying out the build you've recommended and so far it's going great.
What would you or any of the others in this thread advise by way of enhancements as a load out? Would you go Harper at all?
Thanks in advance for any guidance.
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