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    Default Shiradi and Runearm

    Quote Originally Posted by wax_on_wax_off View Post
    Rune Arms contribute 250 to 350 damage per second, I don't see anything in your build making that up. Furthermore, with Shiradi, every rune arm projectile (5/shot for lucid) has a chance to proc all that awesome Shiradi stuff.
    My new main is a Shiradi Champion Artificer (full fate points) ever since the expansion. I have never seen Shiradi abilities ever proc from my runearm attacks. I tested it when the expansion came out, and I just tested it a few minutes ago to make sure nothing changed since the patch using Lucid Dream and Tira's Splendor.

    I wish that Shiradi Abilities did proc and scale from runearm attacks, but this is not the case.

    To the OP, I have no gripes about Shiradi Champion for my Artificer. In my opinion, it is the best thing that ever happened for my Artificer. While an Archmage will utilize SC better than my Artificer, Shiradi Champion seems like it was made for the Artificer.

    I assure you. You have not seen a fully geared/fated Shiradi Champion Artificer in action.

    My Artificer's name is Deathaven on Khyber.
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    I have the shiradi line at tier 5 on 3 characters:

    12monk/6ranger/2fighter half elf zen arcane archer - rather random but yeah a nice dps supplement & having tier3 stay good is really useful for the innate /good bypass. I use the ottos whistler & pin abilities on her, they don't actually have saves but description states that the enemy must be moving (ie "its coming right for us!") to proc the dancing, or standing still to properly pin them in place rather than just slow them.

    20artificer - faster firing rate on the repeater means procs occur more often, and has chances from the few attack spells i use so i find the destiny more powerful than on the archer. Procs dont seem to happen from the arm but then fey form & the other abilities stil boost universal spellpower so it increases their abilities somewhat anyway.

    20wiz warforged evocation archmage - holy moly this is INSANE... my most powerful attack spells are now actually the humble magic missile & chain missile SLAs, plus unmeta'ed versions from memory... wild shots (and boulder toss which i twisted in from fury) are physical damage & therefore get boosted by force spellpower & kinetic lore for a crit chance which adds in a very nice ability to do bulk physical damage too with no SP cost. I've had wild shots hit for an average of 800 or so & crit for 1700+, and the boulder averages about 1500, critting for 4500+, over 7k once since the enemy was helpless at the time.
    I don't mean to come across as unsympathetic - but I am, so I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascendius View Post
    My new main is a Shiradi Champion Artificer (full fate points) ever since the expansion. I have never seen Shiradi abilities ever proc from my runearm attacks. I tested it when the expansion came out, and I just tested it a few minutes ago to make sure nothing changed since the patch using Lucid Dream and Tira's Splendor.

    I wish that Shiradi Abilities did proc and scale from runearm attacks, but this is not the case.

    To the OP, I have no gripes about Shiradi Champion for my Artificer. In my opinion, it is the best thing that ever happened for my Artificer. While an Archmage will utilize SC better than my Artificer, Shiradi Champion seems like it was made for the Artificer.

    I assure you. You have not seen a fully geared/fated Shiradi Champion Artificer in action.

    My Artificer's name is Deathaven on Khyber.
    Ah my mistake, my ranged character is currently an Arcane Archer so I haven't experienced SC as an Artificer yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascendius View Post
    My new main is a Shiradi Champion Artificer (full fate points) ever since the expansion. I have never seen Shiradi abilities ever proc from my runearm attacks. I tested it when the expansion came out, and I just tested it a few minutes ago to make sure nothing changed since the patch using Lucid Dream and Tira's Splendor.

    I wish that Shiradi Abilities did proc and scale from runearm attacks, but this is not the case.
    According to the devs it is supposed to. I would bug report it and/or contact varguoille(sp) about it if it doesn't.
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    Default Runearm/Shiradi Bug Report

    Quote Originally Posted by Havok.cry View Post
    According to the devs it is supposed to. I would bug report it and/or contact varguoille(sp) about it if it doesn't.
    Yea, I read on the forums before the expansion with Varguoille that runearm attacks are suppose to proc Shiradi abilities, but it looks like it didn't get through. I did a lot of bug reporting with Shiradi and Artificer when the expansion came out, and I did report the runearm/Shiradi proc bug, but I think I may need to PM Varguoille instead.

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    Rune arms didnt proc the shiradi champion habilitys a month ago when i Tred, but even so no doubt that shiradi is the best destiny for a ranged toon, if u can´t see it just play another kind of toon cus ranged aint for u defenetly. And just one more thing ofc the Shiradi Campion destiny is arcane based also cus the only really completly ranged class in the game is the artificer.
    The problem is that most players dont know how to play ranged! the ranged classes have power enough to solo evrything on epic elite!

    P.S. do a reasoble buld and your problems r solved

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr-gary View Post
    the only really completly ranged class in the game is the artificer.
    Completely, and utterly false.
    Artificers can use melee just as well as X-bows, the same as Rangers can use melee just as well as Bows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascendius View Post
    My new main is a Shiradi Champion Artificer (full fate points) ever since the expansion. I have never seen Shiradi abilities ever proc from my runearm attacks. I tested it when the expansion came out, and I just tested it a few minutes ago to make sure nothing changed since the patch using Lucid Dream and Tira's Splendor.

    I wish that Shiradi Abilities did proc and scale from runearm attacks, but this is not the case.

    To the OP, I have no gripes about Shiradi Champion for my Artificer. In my opinion, it is the best thing that ever happened for my Artificer. While an Archmage will utilize SC better than my Artificer, Shiradi Champion seems like it was made for the Artificer.

    I assure you. You have not seen a fully geared/fated Shiradi Champion Artificer in action.

    My Artificer's name is Deathaven on Khyber.
    I've also got a capped Arty/Shiradi I play all the time I've NEVER seen Shiradi proc on Rune Arms

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    Quote Originally Posted by V_mad_jester_V View Post
    its still dumb that ottos have a save chance and 15 sec cool down, it needs 0 save chance. That or make it a 3 sec cool down. A wiz or sorc can spam the ottos dance and sphere every what 3-5 sec? making ottos far more inferior to have then using a wiz/sorcs ottos. 15 sec and chance to save against it makes it gimped as frakk. Maybe your just lucky that it prots, but im not so lucky and i use it as often as possible. There seems to be no way of uping the dc of it either for it dosent tell you the type of dc check it makes.
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    I have NEVER had a mob make a save on either ability, pin or whistler.

    they might be immune, but there's no save. Its a conditional ability. Read the description. I typically Pin one or two mobs in a bunch on the iniatal volley, then dance 2-3 that start running towards me.

    additionally between the stat damage of prism and nerve toxin pretty much all trash turns into auto crit status within a few shots
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackSteel View Post
    I have NEVER had a mob make a save on either ability, pin or whistler.

    they might be immune, but there's no save. Its a conditional ability. Read the description. I typically Pin one or two mobs in a bunch on the iniatal volley, then dance 2-3 that start running towards me.

    additionally between the stat damage of prism and nerve toxin pretty much all trash turns into auto crit status within a few shots
    You actually find the stat damage on prism useful? It never seems to proc anywhere near enough to be useful for me. I only have it because double-rainbow is so much fun.

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    To be blunt: I would much rather they made another ranged ED to satisfy you, or you used something else, as I really like Shiradi as it is. Your suggestions sound to me like they would make it more practical but extremely dull. No thanks.

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