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    Default finished with my wizard for now...

    Still need to take 25 and LR and pick up my level 24 int point to move me to 62int/56necro still not sure if I want to do it yet. (Are tomes safe now?) Also wouldnt mind finishing off the last few levels in each destiny just to have extra twist points incase I wish to move things about or something new comes out.

    Dont have sorc piercing twisted in -3 for anything not necro 55everything else /58necro
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    Grats on the 3 pieces of TP, I'm sure you can use em for the boy.
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    Took my level and LR'd fixed up my 1 stat, just missing bard song for 3 more int.


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    Quote Originally Posted by K_0tiC View Post
    (Are tomes safe now?)
    Tomes are safe for Lesser Reincarnate. I LR'd my lvl 16 WF Artificer yesterday and my +2 bonuses started showing up at lvls 4 and 7.

    I didn't test True Reincarnate.
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    Very nice! How have your DCs been holding up in epic elites?

    Are you having to energy drain several times and then finger? I haven't taken 24 yet and am elf and have a 56 int atm... Will be a 60 once I gear out with new items from MoTU... And was in epic elite Tide Turns to test my spell pen and one of the orcs (who i crushing despaired) I had to energy drain and finger 3x till it succeeded. The drow were cake but curious what your results have been this far. Luckily their will saves are **** so holds aren't a problem.

    Also my mouse over DC was 3 less than it should have been... Is this just a visual bug or are the +3 magister dc not working?

    Again, very nice work!
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    Quote Originally Posted by giggiddy View Post
    Very nice! How have your DCs been holding up in epic elites?

    Are you having to energy drain several times and then finger? I haven't taken 24 yet and am elf and have a 56 int atm... Will be a 60 once I gear out with new items from MoTU... And was in epic elite Tide Turns to test my spell pen and one of the orcs (who i crushing despaired) I had to energy drain and finger 3x till it succeeded. The drow were cake but curious what your results have been this far. Luckily their will saves are **** so holds aren't a problem.

    Also my mouse over DC was 3 less than it should have been... Is this just a visual bug or are the +3 magister dc not working?

    Again, very nice work!
    Not really having too many issues EE trash goes down about 80% of the time from say wail/circle at 56 after a symbol of pain/death if your super quick you can dance/pws the priests before they can get out a dw on themselves this way there open to neg levels and damage. Normally when I know a big fight is coming just surge and disco symbol of pain web etc for a better chance to slow the trash down.

    As for the 3 dcs if you had been in another tree and twisted in the 3 dc just try switching to another destiny change the twist to something else claim that destiny your in then go back to magister. I find sometimes when you have something twisted from the destiny your about to go back to it wont function correctly.
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    Gratz on the achievement mate!

    Do you have +4 intelligence tome and are you using human adaptability intelligence as well? Are you using +3 insightful intelligence trinket or just a +2 somewhere and litany? Ill only be able to reach 60 since i dont have a +4 tome and cant fit both +1 profane from litany and the +3 insightful from planar focus (meaning ill only have +2 insight in the ring) which I think its how you can reach 62 (unless im forgetting any bonus).

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    I'm at the same Spell Pen currently (58 Necro / 55 Everything Else). I'm currently missing the 3 FvS past lives, but I have twisted in the Draconic Piercing Spellcraft.

    Once I pick up my FvS past lives, I intend to swap to the Draconic Destiny and twist from Magister. This will put me a 55 Everything for Spell Pen, which I'm fine with (it gives up Master of School). Why aren't you opting for this route? Do you really, really, really like that Magister tree?

    My current Twists (I'm in Magister) are Bard Stance, Draconic Piercing, and Draconic +6 REF. Once I pick up the FvS past lives, I'll swap to Draconic and twist Bard Stance, Magister Piercing Spellcraft, and Magister Spell School Specialist. That's a nice 55 (Spell Pen) on Everything.

    I don't really see the point for aiming for 58 Necro Spell Pen. Why have you gone this route? Do you find the reduced cooldowns that useful?

    As I see it, if you're in Draconic, you can pick up +6 REF, +3 Spell Pen, +3 to PK DC',s, 1 rank of Energy Sheath, and +6 to INT. Then twist in +3 Spell Pen (Magister) and +3 Necro DC's (Magister) and +2 Spell Pen, etc... (Bard). This looks far better to me. The cost is giving up no-fail Necro on a few Priestesses. But so what. Oh yes, and some reduced cooldowns on Necro. The benefit is higher DC's on everything (and much higher on PK) and a better REF save.

    Thoughts?

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    Although both destinies (Draconic and Magister) are great, they have different goals when it comes down to play-style (IMO ofc). If you go Draconic, you have to invest on evocation (which isnt bad mind you) feat(s) and focus on dealing elemental damage to optimize the build, therefore basing your play-style around that premise. By going Magister your basing your play-style around CC and/or Death spells, relegating elemental damage mostly for particular situations.

    While both styles have pros and cons, it will come down to what you really want your caster to focus on since by going draconic you will clearly be able to do way more elemental damage, by going magister you will be the master of CC and/or Death spells. Either choice is good and works on epic elite but IMO my caster will go Magister since the way I play him is snipping dangerous mobs first and CCing the rest (IMO the more dangerous fights on epic elite is with the so called "trash" mobs). The big bosse fights are left for party members that are more suited for that task leaving me free to debuff the hell out of them and buffing party members while maintaing DOTs when possible on the boss to help it go down faster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmoors View Post
    Gratz on the achievement mate!

    Do you have +4 intelligence tome and are you using human adaptability intelligence as well? Are you using +3 insightful intelligence trinket or just a +2 somewhere and litany? Ill only be able to reach 60 since i dont have a +4 tome and cant fit both +1 profane from litany and the +3 insightful from planar focus (meaning ill only have +2 insight in the ring) which I think its how you can reach 62 (unless im forgetting any bonus).

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    Yea ive eaten +4 tome and human 1int is used on my enhancements.
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    8int goggles of spot 13 loot gen off the ah
    Robes are 3insight int spidersilk. Robes are sometimes switched to robe of shadow/abbot upgraded depending on how much damage im taking and slot on a insight 2 tod ring to lighten up the incoming damage
    Trinkets Litany/bauble/eardweller
    1st ring is greater enchantment focus +13 balance large guild slot 20hp slotted here tod insight 2int if required
    2nd ring is ring of the mire stoneskin proc+dr 10 spearblock/abbot ring for quick 450ish hp heals and numerous other options like con +2 tod ring etc
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    Epic lion headed belt buckle cha 6 slotted all the tod belts for clickies etc
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    Gloves are GS 150sp con op/few pairs of abbot gloves

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faent View Post
    I'm at the same Spell Pen currently (58 Necro / 55 Everything Else). I'm currently missing the 3 FvS past lives, but I have twisted in the Draconic Piercing Spellcraft.

    Once I pick up my FvS past lives, I intend to swap to the Draconic Destiny and twist from Magister. This will put me a 55 Everything for Spell Pen, which I'm fine with (it gives up Master of School). Why aren't you opting for this route? Do you really, really, really like that Magister tree?

    My current Twists (I'm in Magister) are Bard Stance, Draconic Piercing, and Draconic +6 REF. Once I pick up the FvS past lives, I'll swap to Draconic and twist Bard Stance, Magister Piercing Spellcraft, and Magister Spell School Specialist. That's a nice 55 (Spell Pen) on Everything.

    I don't really see the point for aiming for 58 Necro Spell Pen. Why have you gone this route? Do you find the reduced cooldowns that useful?

    As I see it, if you're in Draconic, you can pick up +6 REF, +3 Spell Pen, +3 to PK DC',s, 1 rank of Energy Sheath, and +6 to INT. Then twist in +3 Spell Pen (Magister) and +3 Necro DC's (Magister) and +2 Spell Pen, etc... (Bard). This looks far better to me. The cost is giving up no-fail Necro on a few Priestesses. But so what. Oh yes, and some reduced cooldowns on Necro. The benefit is higher DC's on everything (and much higher on PK) and a better REF save.

    Thoughts?
    You want to be off timer asap since alot of the fights are bursts of 4-5ish mobs and sometimes abit more hectic in places like rift etc. Also being out of magister you lose the ability to reduce fort saves by 5 just tossing about negative energy bolt/blast/burst which is a huge +5 to fort dcs. As for spell pen there are some targets needing a 58 id rather be able to land stuff on them then worry about a tiny spell dps increase which ill hardly get to use since ill be busy throwing about cc/instant kills and thats what the rest of the party is for killing stuff that cant be trivialised. I really dont see anything lacking in my spell dps that would gain something special from draconic that would make it game changing. I'm already able to solo alot of the EE quests without shrining and dont have red name dot dps issues so really since most things are cleared by instant kills there is nothing left to dps 95% of the time. The cooldowns, symbols of damage/spell damage reduction, -5 fort saves, 5% spell point cost and 3 spell pen are all very handy and do alot more for me then I can see in draconic. Im running around with a 50ish reflex so dont really see a need to bump that anymore from twists or other trees magister fits my wizard like a glove.
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