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    Default RR Item with (UMD: 0). Bug ?!?

    I have a ring that has the line is Race Required: Dwarf (UMD: 0)

    It has the effects of Striding +15%, Jump +5, Small Guild Augment Slot.

    Is this a bug that I cannot UMD this or are we going to see other randomly generated RR items that cannot be UMD'ed as well?

    Has anyone else had this issue?

    Lastly, if this is a bug is there any way I can get this item fixed (stone of change, GM, etc.) so I can equip it on my characters with UMD that are not dwarves.

    Thanks.
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    I've seen a few of these.. Was assuming they were WAI but I'd like them to be a bug.

    One prominent example is the War Wizard's Staff - http://ddowiki.com/page/Alarphon%27s_Staff

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    Got a ring as well, 25% exp fort, +3 or 5 to diplo.

    RR: Horc UMD (0)

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    Quote Originally Posted by xveganrox View Post
    I've seen a few of these.. Was assuming they were WAI but I'd like them to be a bug.

    One prominent example is the War Wizard's Staff - http://ddowiki.com/page/Alarphon%27s_Staff
    I know there are some items that are not UMD'able. However they were all named items and were class or alignment specific.

    This one was randomly generated and was race restricted which is why I thought it odd.
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    Seeing a lot of these RR (UMD 0) items lately. Hope it's a bug, I mentioned in the bug thread. But I fear its WAI for some arcane reason.

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    Randomly generated items with UMD 0 listed are a bug.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feather_of_Sun View Post
    Randomly generated items with UMD 0 listed are a bug.
    There are loads of those around lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feather_of_Sun View Post
    Randomly generated items with UMD 0 listed are a bug.
    Uh oh - better check muh gear....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feather_of_Sun View Post
    Randomly generated items with UMD 0 listed are a bug.
    Then maybe someone should put it on the "Known Issues" list, heh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pape_27 View Post
    Then maybe someone should put it on the "Known Issues" list, heh?
    The Known Issues list is for bugs which we are internally well-documented and understood. The goal of the Known Issues list is to forestall additional bug reports from players, as they are no longer needed once we know the cause of a bug.

    This is certainly not such a case.
    Without bug reports, this won't get fixed, since we'll need them to figure out what's breaking.

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    I asked my guild leader about this one day cuz I found a RR 0 item too. He said that RR 0 just meant it couldn't be UMD'ed and that you had to be the race to use it. He didnt mention if it was a bug or not tho. On another UMD note, why are there RR docents around???????? Saw a couple on reward lists the other day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feather_of_Sun View Post
    The Known Issues list is for bugs which we are internally well-documented and understood. The goal of the Known Issues list is to forestall additional bug reports from players, as they are no longer needed once we know the cause of a bug.

    This is certainly not such a case.
    Without bug reports, this won't get fixed, since we'll need them to figure out what's breaking.
    I dont think i will be helping with bug reports any more. Not after seeing what hit live servers yesterday.

    But on a serious note. Maybe make another known issues list for things your still investigating and need more data for. This does 2 things. Allows the community to know an issue is being tracked while allowing the devs to continue to get reports until it can make the official known issues list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feather_of_Sun View Post
    The Known Issues list is for bugs which we are internally well-documented and understood. The goal of the Known Issues list is to forestall additional bug reports from players, as they are no longer needed once we know the cause of a bug.

    This is certainly not such a case.
    Without bug reports, this won't get fixed, since we'll need them to figure out what's breaking.
    Wow, great post!
    Seriously. I understand what the Known Issues list is for so much more clearly now. Not that it's a bug you know about, but a bug that you know about that you don't need any more information on.

    Thank you for this clarification.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feather_of_Sun View Post
    The Known Issues list is for bugs which we are internally well-documented and understood. The goal of the Known Issues list is to forestall additional bug reports from players, as they are no longer needed once we know the cause of a bug.

    This is certainly not such a case.
    Without bug reports, this won't get fixed, since we'll need them to figure out what's breaking.
    OMG, I think that's the first time I've seen this posted!

    It explains why so many of us were wondering why it was so lacking in bugs we knew about (player's perspective).

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    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feather_of_Sun View Post
    The Known Issues list is for bugs which we are internally well-documented and understood. The goal of the Known Issues list is to forestall additional bug reports from players, as they are no longer needed once we know the cause of a bug.

    This is certainly not such a case.
    Without bug reports, this won't get fixed, since we'll need them to figure out what's breaking.
    Thanks for the response.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pyntsized View Post
    I asked my guild leader about this one day cuz I found a RR 0 item too. He said that RR 0 just meant it couldn't be UMD'ed and that you had to be the race to use it. He didnt mention if it was a bug or not tho. On another UMD note, why are there RR docents around???????? Saw a couple on reward lists the other day.
    There are a few NAMED items with UMD 0. The Mad Lute for Bards comes to mind. http://ddowiki.com/page/The_Mad_Lute

    But as FOS says, random gen. items with UMD 0 (such as the docents you saw) is a bug.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feather_of_Sun View Post
    The Known Issues list is for bugs which we are internally well-documented and understood. The goal of the Known Issues list is to forestall additional bug reports from players, as they are no longer needed once we know the cause of a bug.
    Do you think it's possible to copy this as a disclaimer in the Know Issues topic? If this appear there right before we need to read anything else, this will minimize a lot of rant. And, maybe, provide you better bug reports.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feather_of_Sun View Post
    The Known Issues list is for bugs which we are internally well-documented and understood. The goal of the Known Issues list is to forestall additional bug reports from players, as they are no longer needed once we know the cause of a bug.

    This is certainly not such a case.
    Without bug reports, this won't get fixed, since we'll need them to figure out what's breaking.
    By any CHANCE you could see if that list could be renamed to be "Well Documented Issues"?

    "Known Issues" has a completely other understanding for players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feather_of_Sun View Post
    The Known Issues list is for bugs which we are internally well-documented and understood. The goal of the Known Issues list is to forestall additional bug reports from players, as they are no longer needed once we know the cause of a bug.

    This is certainly not such a case.
    Without bug reports, this won't get fixed, since we'll need them to figure out what's breaking.

    And here I thought that a known issues list was a list of issues known, go figure I suppose. That does explain why it is so void of "known issues"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feather_of_Sun View Post
    The Known Issues list is for bugs which we are internally well-documented and understood. The goal of the Known Issues list is to forestall additional bug reports from players, as they are no longer needed once we know the cause of a bug.

    This is certainly not such a case.
    Without bug reports, this won't get fixed, since we'll need them to figure out what's breaking.
    Well that makes perfect sense. Please put that text at the top of the known issues list in bolded red!

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