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    Default Fatespinner spell pen missing?

    Perhaps I am misunderstanding something here, but on my 20 bard I have:

    Spell Penetration:
    20 base
    4 feats
    2 enhancements
    2 capstone
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    1 Ship - I think - or else I can't account for 1 point
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    34 - which shows on my dice rolls.

    But I also have:

    Level 4 Fatesinger
    +4 to Arcane Caster Level = +4 spell pen correct?

    Which isn't registering on my spell pen rolls. Have I misunderstood arcane caster level?
    Is there some kind of bug?


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    Currently, the only innate gain to Arcane Spell Caster Level in Fatesinger is at Fatesinger Level 0 (Fatesinger's Repertoire). The later levels of Fatesinger are currently not granting a boost to Arcane Spell Caster Level. This means you only get an effective +1 Spell Penetration from the innates of Fatesinger at the moment.
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    So, are you saying it's bugged?

    Because the ingame descriptions of Level 1,3 and 4 of Fatesinger all say +1 to Arcane Caster Level.

    Thanks for the reply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoBoDaClown View Post
    So, are you saying it's bugged?

    Because the ingame descriptions of Level 1,3 and 4 of Fatesinger all say +1 to Arcane Caster Level.

    Thanks for the reply.
    Incidentally, this is fixed on lama (aka, fix is in the next patch).

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    I don't think fatesinger boosts bard caster levels either, if you're trying to cast a spell that wizards and sorcerers don't get, like soundburst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoBoDaClown View Post
    3 item
    1 Ship - I think - or else I can't account for 1 point
    They don't stack. The one point is the first WAI caster level increase for simply picking fatesinger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeebaNeighba View Post
    I don't think fatesinger boosts bard caster levels either, if you're trying to cast a spell that wizards and sorcerers don't get, like soundburst.
    Tested that out on beta
    Tried casting FoM (since soundburst gets no benefit from +caster levels), and I get the full 25 caster lvls (lvl 20 bard 5 fatesinger), so yes, you are getting a bonus to bard spells as well. Focusing chant however is only caster level 23....no idea why.

    Also the +2 to effective level to enchantment/charm spells from majesty isn't working (or I'm misunderstanding what that means, I'm assuming that means +2 caster level which i'm not getting)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeebaNeighba View Post
    They don't stack. .
    Didn't think so - just couldn't figure out where that single point was coming from considering I thought the whole fatesinger line was borked - thanks for the clarification.
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    Quote Originally Posted by threefeetunder View Post
    Tested that out on beta
    Tried casting FoM (since soundburst gets no benefit from +caster levels), and I get the full 25 caster lvls (lvl 20 bard 5 fatesinger), so yes, you are getting a bonus to bard spells as well. Focusing chant however is only caster level 23....no idea why.

    Also the +2 to effective level to enchantment/charm spells from majesty isn't working (or I'm misunderstanding what that means, I'm assuming that means +2 caster level which i'm not getting)
    So on lam we are getting the five +1s from our fatesinger levels?

    In regards to the +2 to enchant spell pen from the final level, is that borked on lam as well, or fixed there?

    Thanks for the quality info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by threefeetunder View Post
    Tested that out on beta
    Tried casting FoM (since soundburst gets no benefit from +caster levels), and I get the full 25 caster lvls (lvl 20 bard 5 fatesinger), so yes, you are getting a bonus to bard spells as well. Focusing chant however is only caster level 23....no idea why.

    Also the +2 to effective level to enchantment/charm spells from majesty isn't working (or I'm misunderstanding what that means, I'm assuming that means +2 caster level which i'm not getting)
    Hm. I thought I remembered seeing 20 minute FoMs on my ex-fatesinger on live, but I could be mistaken. And I already TR'd the character because the update's nerfs hit my bard hard.

    Also Soundburst does make a spell penetration check for the stun only, at least it says that in the description.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeebaNeighba View Post
    Hm. I thought I remembered seeing 20 minute FoMs on my ex-fatesinger on live, but I could be mistaken. And I already TR'd the character because the update's nerfs hit my bard hard.

    Also Soundburst does make a spell penetration check for the stun only, at least it says that in the description.
    Like I said, that's on beta (so in the next patch), on live destinies caster level increases are still bugged.
    Soundburst is affected by sr? eh, my bad then, thought stuns from sonic spells ignored sr for some reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by threefeetunder View Post
    Soundburst is affected by sr? eh, my bad then, thought stuns from sonic spells ignored sr for some reason.
    It's in the description of the spell, but I don't use it enough to see if that's really true. Greater Shout is better in every way except it has a different range of targets it hits. The sp cost is the same, the dc is 4 higher for greater shout (they're both evocation too) and the stun is basically the same except it's not affected by sr for greater shout. So chances are, you won't care about soundburst.

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