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    Default Vote For Spirit Shaman!

    Does anyone else think the next class added should be a Spirit Shaman?
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    Ah. Well, not really.

    I thought we were like, voting for homecoming queen of the forums. Go spirit shaman, yay!
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    Haha, well I thought it would be neat, we need more offensive divine casters
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuadroMan1 View Post
    Haha, well I thought it would be neat, we need more offensive divine casters
    We have 5 spellcasters now so get ready for a melee or specialist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuadroMan1 View Post
    Haha, well I thought it would be neat, we need more offensive divine casters
    The existing divine classes have excellent offensive capability (all of them). You just need to build them that way. You lose ubertastic healing capability as the trade off. You can still heal, just not as well. If you mean having a radiant servant that can out dps a max dps barbarian, it's not going to happen

    Heal vs. DPS is a lot like Tank vs. DPS. No one can do both well and if you pussyfoot around both sides you'll just be mediocre at both.
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    Would a kobold shaman be able to jump high in the air and stick to invisible platforms? :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonos View Post
    Would a kobold shaman be able to jump high in the air and stick to invisible platforms? :P
    Yesh! I think that, looking at the race in D&D, that in DDO terms, they should have:

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    I think working on more Epics destinys and handling all pre's for all the working classes should be a priority over any other new class. At least for the next months or more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumbaragum View Post
    I think working on more Epics destinys and handling all pre's for all the working classes should be a priority over any other new class. At least for the next months or more.
    This

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    Meh.

    There are already 3 divine casters. We don't need another, especially one that fills a very specific niche. It works in a campaign with a lot of spirits/ghosts/wraiths but not in a more general setting. I could see it as a PrE for druids, but even then it's a long shot.

    There are other classes that are more popular to be the 'next in line', namely Warlock and Warlord.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HastyPudding View Post
    There are other classes that are more popular to be the 'next in line', namely Warlock and Warlord.
    The poll here disagrees with your assessment on popularity a bit: http://community.wizards.com/dndnext...favorite_class

    Wizard/magic-user 15 %
    Rogue/thief 10 %
    Fighter 9 %
    Ranger 8 %
    Bard 6 %
    Cleric 6 %
    Paladin 6 %
    Druid 4 %
    Monk 4 %
    Psion/psionicist 4 %
    Sorcerer 4 %
    Warlord 4 %
    Warlock 3 %
    Assassin 2 %
    Barbarian 2 %
    Illusionist 1 %
    Don’t know/unsure 2 %

    Warlocks appear to be among the less popular of PnP classes, although to be fair spirit shaman didn't appear to be popular enough to even warrant being on the list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aashrym View Post
    The poll here disagrees with your assessment on popularity a bit: http://community.wizards.com/dndnext...favorite_class

    Wizard/magic-user 15 %
    Rogue/thief 10 %
    Fighter 9 %
    Ranger 8 %
    Bard 6 %
    Cleric 6 %
    Paladin 6 %
    Druid 4 %
    Monk 4 %
    Psion/psionicist 4 %
    Sorcerer 4 %
    Warlord 4 %
    Warlock 3 %
    Assassin 2 %
    Barbarian 2 %
    Illusionist 1 %
    Don’t know/unsure 2 %

    Warlocks appear to be among the less popular of PnP classes, although to be fair spirit shaman didn't appear to be popular enough to even warrant being on the list.
    Technically he is right he said there were classes more popular than spirit shaman and warlocks are more popular than they are

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uska View Post
    Technically he is right he said there were classes more popular than spirit shaman and warlocks are more popular than they are
    Actually, the fact they made the list is a good sign there is some popularity. There are a lot of classes that didn't make the list. A person needs to sign up for the play test and do the survey even to write them in as other.

    I was a bit surprised bards, clerics, and paladins had a better response than druids.

    Back to the topic, I wouldn't even consider adding spirit shaman. I would not want to continually add classes; at some point it is time to stop and many classes wouldn't be worth the design and development time IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aashrym View Post
    The poll here disagrees with your assessment on popularity a bit: http://community.wizards.com/dndnext...favorite_class

    Wizard/magic-user 15 %
    Rogue/thief 10 %
    Fighter 9 %
    Ranger 8 %
    Bard 6 %
    Cleric 6 %
    Paladin 6 %
    Druid 4 %
    Monk 4 %
    Psion/psionicist 4 %
    Sorcerer 4 %
    Warlord 4 %
    Warlock 3 %
    Assassin 2 %
    Barbarian 2 %
    Illusionist 1 %
    Don’t know/unsure 2 %

    Warlocks appear to be among the less popular of PnP classes, although to be fair spirit shaman didn't appear to be popular enough to even warrant being on the list.
    Be that as it may, there are still much better ways of utilizing a Warlock and Warlord than a Spirit Shaman. For one, they 'fill out' the Melee and Specialist groups, giving 5 in each group:

    Melee - Fighter, Paladin, Barbarian, Monk, (WARLORD)
    Spellcaster - Wizard, Sorcerer, Cleric, Favored Soul, Druid
    Specialist - Rogue, Ranger, Artificer, Bard, (WARLOCK)

    And since we're talking about the above poll, since the other classes are already implemented, that leaves Psion/Wilder/Soul Knife/Psychic Warrior as the next popular series. I would whole-heartedly agree to adding a Psionics group, but the amount of work required would rival the Underdark Expansion. It would have to be an entire expansion unto itself.

    Seeing as that is unlikely to happen any time soon, the next best thing -- and far more easier to implement -- would be Warlocks and Warlords.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumbaragum View Post
    I think working on more Epics destinys and handling all pre's for all the working classes should be a priority over any other new class. At least for the next months or more.
    This. But it is a class I wouldn't mind seeing, I'm rather fond of it.

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    Meh.

    There are already 3 divine casters. We don't need another, especially one that fills a very specific niche. It works in a campaign with a lot of spirits/ghosts/wraiths but not in a more general setting. I could see it as a PrE for druids, but even then it's a long shot.

    There are other classes that are more popular to be the 'next in line', namely Warlock and Warlord.
    It does just fine in a more general setting. For one thing, elementals and fey count as "spirits." And in PnP, they have a unique and awesome spellcasting setup. They cast spells like a sorcerer (doesn't have to pick the exact numbers of each spell for the day), but prepares (retrieves) the spells they know (can cast) each day, in exchange for a lower number of different spells available on a given day than a sorcerer, but still having a greater number of spells they can cast in total than a druid. (If I recall right, the number they can know each day is also lower than the total druids can prepare)
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    No.
    That guy (forgotten name) fitted quite good in NWN2MoB, but we don't need to have everything from NWN in DDO.
    Plus this class wouldn't fit best here.
    And, since there was new class released, next will be a new race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vellrad View Post
    No.
    That guy (forgotten name) fitted quite good in NWN2MoB, but we don't need to have everything from NWN in DDO.
    Plus this class wouldn't fit best here.
    And, since there was new class released, next will be a new race.
    No clue what you're talking about with NWN there, but I'd still like to see the class here.

    However, I agree there, give us shifters!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vellrad View Post
    No.
    That guy (forgotten name) fitted quite good in NWN2MoB, but we don't need to have everything from NWN in DDO.
    Plus this class wouldn't fit best here.
    And, since there was new class released, next will be a new race.
    IIRC that was gann or ganoven... or something like that, not quite sure it's been quite sometime since i've played that particular game. anyway...

    @OP - as much as druid is my fav dnd class, and i would like to see a sorc/fvs version of them (few spells... more sp) i just dont want to see them in game right now. i'd much rather have them finish off all the Pre's for the classes we have avaliable now, fix monks, add teifling for a race release one or two more adventure packs and maybe another melee class... perhaps a duelist themed one, introduce spears to the game.

    of course that's just my wishlist anyway.
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    Only if they include Kobolds as a player race in the same update.
    I would pay for that!
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    Sorry dont like that class and dont think it should be ever added rather have more races first and then maybe psionics so we can have soulblade or something.

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