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    doh already posted should pay attention and make sure I dont post to old threads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TDN View Post
    Hate to beat a dead horse but the next class has got to be warlock or some form of psionics we have to much repeat in the classes already we need something fresh, warlock seems like a good choice due to it being a roguish/magic user but the issue is how would turbine do it trying to wrap the essences and blast shapes into some form of workable meta magic. Plus on a side note so many people are unfamiliar with the warlock as it is they all think its super OP due to limitless magic.

    As for the psionics end I would love to see psi-blades added in we haven't had a melee class added in since monk its about time we had a new one.


    A big yes to psionics and psionic classes as they are large part of eberron NO to warlocks ever ever ever.

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    no.. don't ask for new bugs..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uska View Post
    A big yes to psionics and psionic classes as they are large part of eberron NO to warlocks ever ever ever.
    That's what I've been saying about psionics for a long time. Psions are quite common in the Eberron campaign setting. The problem is that they would require a major overhaul on game mechanics to fit them in. There are those who say that 'psion is just a wizard with differently named spells'. While this can technically be true, Psions and Wilders, however, work off of augmentation, wild surges, and overchanneling, not strictly spell/caster level; this opens up an entirely new area of customization and specialization. And, of course, where there are Psions, there must be Wilders, Psychic Warriors, and Soulknives. They just have to do Psions/Wilders without stepping on the toes of Wizards/Sorcerers.

    I'm still for Warlocks and Warlords, though. Maybe replace Warlords with Duskblades or Hexblades. Sadly, overexposure to WoW has given the word 'Warlock' a bad name. D&D Warlocks are different from WoW Warlocks. I blame ignorance.

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    Dang.

    I thought this was another one of those " Vote for your Favorite Mob " things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phillymiket View Post
    Dang.

    I thought this was another one of those " Vote for your Favorite Mob " things.

    Round One:

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    Kobold shaman wins. Coyle will just run and attack the wall or the nearest explosive barrel while the kobold watches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uska View Post
    doh already posted should pay attention and make sure I dont post to old threads.
    Heck, I thought the OP was referring to the next ship amenity
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    Quote Originally Posted by HastyPudding View Post
    That's what I've been saying about psionics for a long time. Psions are quite common in the Eberron campaign setting. The problem is that they would require a major overhaul on game mechanics to fit them in. There are those who say that 'psion is just a wizard with differently named spells'. While this can technically be true, Psions and Wilders, however, work off of augmentation, wild surges, and overchanneling, not strictly spell/caster level; this opens up an entirely new area of customization and specialization. And, of course, where there are Psions, there must be Wilders, Psychic Warriors, and Soulknives. They just have to do Psions/Wilders without stepping on the toes of Wizards/Sorcerers.

    I'm still for Warlocks and Warlords, though. Maybe replace Warlords with Duskblades or Hexblades. Sadly, overexposure to WoW has given the word 'Warlock' a bad name. D&D Warlocks are different from WoW Warlocks. I blame ignorance.
    I know all about dnd warlocks and I still stay no no no I have been playing dnd for longer then many have been alive and not a fan of any of the classes really from splat books or that are core to 4E I prefer the classes from core mainly

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuadroMan1 View Post
    Does anyone else think the next class added should be a Spirit Shaman?
    Spirit shaman is similar enough to druid to be incorporated as one of the druid prestige lines in my opinion, don't think it needs to be a separate class.


    Quote Originally Posted by Uska View Post
    A big yes to psionics and psionic classes as they are large part of eberron NO to warlocks ever ever ever.
    I may be a bit biased since I never really liked psionics in pnp but I don't really understand this, the way I see it (from the pnp perspective) psionics were basically spell casters that used points instead of spell slots to "cast" their "spells" (many of the psionic abilities were just straight off renamed spells) and in DDO every caster already uses a point system for casting so what would it add other than the name of the class?

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    Quote Originally Posted by legendlore View Post
    Spirit shaman is similar enough to druid to be incorporated as one of the druid prestige lines in my opinion, don't think it needs to be a separate class.




    I may be a bit biased since I never really liked psionics in pnp but I don't really understand this, the way I see it (from the pnp perspective) psionics were basically spell casters that used points instead of spell slots to "cast" their "spells" (many of the psionic abilities were just straight off renamed spells) and in DDO every caster already uses a point system for casting so what would it add other than the name of the class?

    I never allowed psoinics in my standard games but when I ran in eberron I did mainly to add the one race and the melee class that used psionics. If they dont add the race I dont want psionics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HastyPudding View Post
    Kobold shaman wins. Coyle will just run and attack the wall or the nearest explosive barrel while the kobold jumps to innaccesible spot on the wall.
    Fixed for you ^^

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    Never heard of Spirit Shaman, myself. Seems like it might be a bit too much of a niche character for DDO though, if it's focused around dealing with spirits/fey/elementals. Those don't make up a big portion of the mob base. Might make for a neat prestige class though!

    I'd really like to see an epic destiny for druids. Neither of the two primal ones are really that workable for them at the moment -- though you can kind of shoehorn them into either one. I'd love to see one that actually FOCUSES on elemental damage/DCs, like a primal version of draconic/magister.

    As for new classes, psionics all the way baybeh. I'd love to see psions/psionic warriors hit the field in DDO. Give those mind flayers a run for their money!

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    I'd rather duskblade or warlock,
    or, better, some decent epic destinies that everyone can use
    (like cater destinies benefiting all casters)
    or void incarnate, which would be a pretty neat destiny
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    Nah, i totally dont miss Spirit Shaman.
    As for my class related wishes:

    I. Release the Kraken! I mean all PrE and finishi the one with just tier I or II, and make PrE which sucks, suck in the new exiting way.

    II. Balance better classes. Paladins and Rangers need love. A lot of love.
    Also Bard could get something (like spells to choose from)
    And bunch of helpful feats would be nice <- this may count as fighter buff.

    As for new class if ever happen my picks:
    - Gish/Duskblade/Psionic Warrior/Warblade(Swordsage)/Magus(from pathfinder) generally class which has sword in one hand and fireball in second. Something like Artificer who is Melee Caster rather than Specialist Caster.
    - 'Warlocks' basicly magic user without SP, but with power limit. PewPewing with rays may be fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by licho View Post
    Nah, i totally dont miss Spirit Shaman.
    As for my class related wishes:

    I. Release the Kraken! I mean all PrE and finishi the one with just tier I or II, and make PrE which sucks, suck in the new exiting way.

    II. Balance better classes. Paladins and Rangers need love. A lot of love.
    Also Bard could get something (like spells to choose from)
    And bunch of helpful feats would be nice <- this may count as fighter buff.

    As for new class if ever happen my picks:
    - Gish/Duskblade/Psionic Warrior/Warblade(Swordsage)/Magus(from pathfinder) generally class which has sword in one hand and fireball in second. Something like Artificer who is Melee Caster rather than Specialist Caster.
    - 'Warlocks' basicly magic user without SP, but with power limit. PewPewing with rays may be fun.
    I. I don't think they'll be releasing anymore PrE's or completing the currents ones seeing as the enhancement update is on the horizon. Of course, the druid was on the horizon for a while, too...

    II. I can agree with balancing. Paladins and rangers are mediocre, at the moment. Bards don't need anything. They're just the way they need to be. Some new feats would be nice, though. There is a lot of missing ones.

    A 'gish' class would be good to have, I always liked swordsages and duskblades. I would love to see them implement a duelist/swashbuckler, though; a melee class that doesn't rely on THF or TWF, but a single weapon.

    Warlocks, yes, I would love to see. They're like sorcerers with half the damage, yet unlimited uses of their eldritch blast which they can use at-will and augment with different elements and debuffs, as well as shapes, such as a cone, AoE, or a ray. I enjoyed it immensely in NWN2 and would love to see how they could make them in DDO.

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    Tielfings as player races would be awesome (they could have some cool spell clikies or something, idk. just think it would be cool) but i don't see that happenign any time soon. Perhaps gnomes or some other magic OP race?

    I think we've pretty much got a lot of classes to choose from between mlee casters and specialists, and that some classes are in a sort of grey area between those categories anyways. Fixing the enhancements, making sure all the destinies and PrE are balanced, maybe even revamping pallys ( i personally like them as it is, but anyways) and rangers to some extent . Arcane Archer is quite good if you build it right, but i;ve found that i had to default to twf so many times to match dps or just spamm a paralyzing bow to get some love, perhaps fixing the ranged weps a bit would be good (of course that was almost a year ago, maybe they fixed that in the past few updates, i wouldn't be able to tell). Of course i also understand that as an archer you're suppose to be killing the casters and other dangerous mobs and not worry too much about the mlee, but there's room for improvement in this bit.

    Oh and a few more FtP quests on epic/20+ level would be nice, it's ok when you've got most of the packs but in my first char i only got enough favor to buy vale, so i reckon that could be an area to work as well.

    On the other hand, new classes are always welcome :P

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    I want the kalashtar, shifter, and changeling races along with the psion and psychic warrior first.

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    2nd Ed. was and is my version of D&D.

    As such I've never heard of stuff like Spirit Shamans, Hex-Blades and Warlords outside these forums.

    Having tried 3.5 I have been in a group with a Duskblade {Seemed incredibly OP to me}.

    Warlock to me is well EVIL! {Another 3.5 game I was in reinforced this view}.

    So for my picks for next race and class I'd have to go for Kobold* + Gnome {Little People Pack} and Psionicist {The only class NOT currently in DDO.

    *Kobolds were in the Complete Book of Humanoids {2nd Ed.} as Player characters along with Orcs, H-Orcs, Bugbears, Goblins + Hobgoblins, Lizard Men, Gnolls {incl the more intelligent Flinds}, Firbolgs, Saurials, Swanmays and a few others.

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    Next added class needs to be the Psion.

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    The Druid class as implemented is closer to Spirit Shaman than what Druid is supposed to be.

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