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    Hi,

    Emptysands, are you sure your table includes all of the possible combinations?

    I don't see an entry for Tier 3 (6) + Tier 3 (9) = 15 pts.

    Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blerkington View Post
    Hi,

    Emptysands, are you sure your table includes all of the possible combinations?

    I don't see an entry for Tier 3 (6) + Tier 3 (9) = 15 pts.

    Thanks.
    Yeah, thanks for spotting that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vargouille View Post
    Twists of Fate let you choose Destiny Enhancements from Tiers 1,2,3,4. They cannot grant enhancements from Tier 5, 6, or any innate abilities.
    Could you guys of made this any less fun, this for me has no fill too DnD what so ever, Im lv 23 pally with a lv 5 destiney ive used all my points in my tree and unless i want too play your little destiney game .. im basiclly capped unalbe too continue putting more points in the tree i like , i jsut dont get it and i dont like it.
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    Hi,

    Empty, you're welcome. This is a really nice resource for us, so thanks again for providing it.

    I only noticed when I tried to write a program to duplicate what you'd done. The output is below, and otherwise seems to match yours.

    Thanks.

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    One twist
    Tier 1 = 1
    Tier 2 = 3
    Tier 3 = 6
    Tier 4 = 10

    Two twists

    Tier 1 + Tier 1
    -> 1 + 2 = 3
    Tier 2 + Tier 1
    -> 3 + 2 = 5
    Tier 2 + Tier 2
    -> 3 + 5 = 8
    Tier 3 + Tier 1
    -> 6 + 2 = 8
    Tier 3 + Tier 2
    -> 6 + 5 = 11
    Tier 3 + Tier 3
    -> 6 + 9 = 15
    Tier 4 + Tier 1
    -> 10 + 2 = 12
    Tier 4 + Tier 2
    -> 10 + 5 = 15

    Three twists

    Tier 1 + Tier 1 + Tier 1 -> 1 + 2 + 3 = 6
    Tier 2 + Tier 1 + Tier 1
    -> 3 + 2 + 3 = 8
    Tier 2 + Tier 2 + Tier 1
    -> 3 + 5 + 3 = 11
    Tier 2 + Tier 2 + Tier 2
    -> 3 + 5 + 7 = 15
    Tier 3 + Tier 1 + Tier 1
    -> 6 + 2 + 3 = 11
    Tier 3 + Tier 2 + Tier 1
    -> 6 + 5 + 3 = 14
    Tier 3 + Tier 2 + Tier 2
    -> 6 + 5 + 7 = 18
    Tier 3 + Tier 3 + Tier 1
    -> 6 + 9 + 3 = 18
    Tier 4 + Tier 1 + Tier 1
    -> 10 + 2 + 3 = 15
    Tier 4 + Tier 2 + Tier 1
    -> 10 + 5 + 3 = 18
    Last edited by blerkington; 07-12-2012 at 01:13 AM.
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    Some more analysis. WIP.

    Assuming max ranks in ONE ED, and lvl 3/rank 15 in 6 EDs and lvl4/rank20 in 3 EDs. This gives total of 5 + 3 x 6 + 4 x 3 = 35 ED levels and 11.67 Fate Points.

    Min XP to get to this point is:
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    1,980,000 - Rank 30 lvl 5
    4,320,000 = 720,000 x 6 - Rank 15 lvl 3
    4,320,000 = 1,080,000 x 3 - Rank 20 lvl 4
    = 10,620,000 for 11.67 Fate Points.
    +360,000 for 12th Fate Point
    
    11 million at 3k/min is 62hours.
    Max XP to get all Fate Points is 15 million + 480,000 for max Fate Points and one max rank ED. About 86 hrs at 3k/min.

    The minimum XP path for each point on the OP table can be determined in a similar fashion. For example 6 Fate Points is 18 ED levels: 5 from primary ED, 3+4+3+3 = 12 ED lvls for total 18. Implies min xp path to 6 Fate Points is 1,980,000 + 3 x 720,000 + 1 x 1,080,000 = 5,220,000 xp or 29hours at 3k/min. This would give you 3x Tier 1 or 1x Tier 3 twist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phalaeo View Post
    They should make the Fate tomes a rare(ish) drop. To have them in the store, and not a chance to loot them in-game is super lame.
    They do. Had a guildy that pulled a +1 Tome of Fate from a chest in one of the Depths series on elite the other day. Yes, they pulled a Fate tome from a level 5 (+elite) quest.

    They linked it in guild chat, and I had no reason to suspect they were making anything up.

    So they drop, but like all the other store items that drop in chests, they are rare and random.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sephiroth1084 View Post
    They do. Had a guildy that pulled a +1 Tome of Fate from a chest in one of the Depths series on elite the other day. Yes, they pulled a Fate tome from a level 5 (+elite) quest.

    They linked it in guild chat, and I had no reason to suspect they were making anything up.

    So they drop, but like all the other store items that drop in chests, they are rare and random.
    Are you really talking about the depths in house D here??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meowin View Post
    Are you really talking about the depths in house D here??
    Yup.
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    If rank 30 actually gave Level 6 ED - then we could get a max 22 Fate Points.

    Here is an extended table.
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    Tier 4 (10) + Tier 4 (14) + Tier 4 (18) = 42
    Tier 4 (10) + Tier 4 (14) + Tier 3 (12) = 36
    Tier 4 (10) + Tier 4 (14) + Tier 2 (7)  = 31
    Tier 4 (10) + Tier 4 (14) + Tier 1 (3)  = 27
    Tier 4 (10) + Tier 4 (14)               = 24
    Tier 4 (10) + Tier 3 (9) + Tier 3 (12)  = 31
    Tier 4 (10) + Tier 3 (9) + Tier 2 (7)   = 26
    Tier 4 (10) + Tier 3 (9) + Tier 1 (3)   = 22
    Tier 4 (10) + Tier 3 (9)                = 19
    Tier 4 (10) + Tier 2 (5) + Tier 2 (7)   = 22
    Tier 4 (10) + Tier 2 (5) + Tier 1 (3)   = 18
    
    
    Tier 3 (6) + Tier 3 (9) + Tier 3 (12)  = 27
    Tier 3 (6) + Tier 3 (9) + Tier 2 (7)   = 22
    Tier 3 (6) + Tier 3 (9) + Tier 1 (3)   = 18
    Tier 3 (6) + Tier 3 (9)                = 15
    Tier 3 (6) + Tier 2 (5) + Tier 2 (7)   = 18
    Last edited by emptysands; 11-21-2012 at 03:15 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meowin View Post
    Are you really talking about the depths in house D here??
    You can pull lots of really rare stuff from any level quest. I've seen an Ioun stone pulled from I think Kobold's New Ringleader. I pulled a Collapsed Portable Hole from Waterworks. Etc.

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    Update bump.
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    4+3=19 (+1 Tome)

    Can add 4+4 = 24 to your "beyond current limit" chart in Post 29, too.
    Last edited by Dielzen; 11-16-2012 at 02:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dielzen View Post
    4+3=19 (+1 Tome)

    Can add 4+4 = 24 to your "beyond current limit" chart in Post 29, too.
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