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    EDIT Treasure Hunt is over Atomic Mew is the winner.

    Fawn sorted thru various pieces of gear, and put together a decent outfit.

    However, she is still missing this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Silverleafeon View Post
    Fawn and I have figured out what our final build will be.

    In celebration of this discovery, she is offering a treasure hunt:

    For the first two players to offer in trade to her a:
    http://ddowiki.com/page/Forgotten_Light_(Level_25)
    she will give each of these two players one each of a:
    http://ddowiki.com/page/Otto%27s_Irresistible_Box

    For those looking for "fair market value" of these items,
    please realize that I occasionally give away turbine point codes
    in this thread, therefore, I am not a proper example to use.

    For those of you who are smart at building characters, please
    feel free to chime in with builds, suggestions, ect...

    This build was attempted twice by me long ago, and both
    attempts failed. It is a complicated build.

    Without further ado:
    Last edited by Silverleafeon; 06-15-2013 at 12:13 PM.

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    A long time ago, in a far away land, epic destinies were created.
    They span 10 levels, namely levels 21 thru 30.

    At level 30, one's epic destiny becomes fulfilled and the character moves onward into glory...


    Perhaps you might recall, my saying DDO could go to level 40, but I cannot imagine
    what it would be?

    Well now the truth has dawned in Fawn's heart and she see the horizon.

    Advancing DDO past level 30 has numerous dangers in it.
    Traditionally sticking to D&D roots, eventually a character sheet has "retired" written upon it,
    and it is set aside as a new character is rolled up.

    The game falls apart when you overextend the rules.
    Monsters just can only take so much uberness before they cower in fear.
    Party balance eventually falls apart as characters become legends and then demi-gods.

    Finding characters of similar level to group with becomes more and more problematic
    as the amount of levels available increases.

    Third and Fourth Edition rules mostly supported Epic level 20 thru 30.
    Not any further; DDO is D&D edition X and hence holds to certain truths.

    Log in to your favorite epic toon and look at an epic destiny that has a lot
    of levels earned. Now think a bit, is there anything in that destiny that
    you wanted to spend points on but couldn't? If you are like me,
    you could spend an extra 16 points on available options.

    If the epic destinies added level 6 thru 9 (the first level is called 0),
    then we would gain 16 more points to spend.

    So really, if four inate abilities were created for each epic destiny,
    plus maybe one or two extra abilities, these same destinies could
    function for the whole complete traditional epic levels.

    It is odd that the current epic destinies all have a level cap of 20.
    Perhaps in the future that may change, as it would make more sense
    to scale it, but there may be another approach used.

    Should the level cap stay forever at 30, just as it paused a long time
    at 20, then one has to provide other means of keeping gamers from
    getting bored.

    I played Fate a long time ago, and enjoyed it very much.
    I liked the option to turn in my character for a slightly more powerful one,
    and keep a legacy item. DDO's TRing feature does that brilliantly.

    Although it may seem very cruel, the overall health of DDO,
    may require a change in how epic destinies are handled.

    Iconics are a brilliant addition to DDO, and I hope they bring out thirteen of them.
    There are new worlds to discover, new places to see, new ideas to try out.
    But eventually, a D&D character is reborn and the old character sheet has retired written upon it.

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    Even if a character is "retired" from DDO they could rise again some day. I know that eventually you have done all there is to do, and seen all there is to see. The thing is that even with all of that experience and power behind you it is still fun to go smite kobolds in the sewers from time to time. I even enjoy allowing the sahuagin to find me on korthos every now and then. Then there is also the ability to trivialize those quests in which you were once on the other end of the smiting.

    With those things in mind, does a character in DDO ever truly retire?

    Similarly some day a new threat could arise that only the mightiest of the mighty, a true hero of the type legends are told of can have any hope of saving the good people of eberron or faerun.

    Could that true hero, who through many lifetimes of experience and knowledge of the arts of combat really sit idly by while others gain all the glory?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverleafeon View Post
    Now level 25 max xp, all past lives done, all epic destinies maxed.
    Gratz little Fawn You can be proud of this achievement

    Quote Originally Posted by Silverleafeon View Post
    "For a moment in time, everything was perfect...then that moment vanished."
    *Tangled
    If perfection was meant to last forever... life would be so boring !
    ABBYdoll : Blond Brain - Huge butt (don't stay behind or you will see nothing)
    ABBYhawk : No Brain - Big Muscles (never trust him)
    Fyros : A noob with a Great Heart (have no expectation and you will be happy)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverleafeon View Post
    Should the level cap stay forever at 30, just as it paused a long time
    at 20, then one has to provide other means of keeping gamers from
    getting bored.
    Be realistic gamers already started to get bored…
    - much less people on servers (and not only Khyber)
    - much less pugs/raids in lfm (even on private channels)
    - lots of hard gamers already left
    - gamers who come back show up for a week the time to see the new content then leave again...

    It's sad... but this is what is happening,
    DDO is growing old and the young need new thrills so they move on…
    Even if gaming is a world apart… it's part of real life and same rules apply

    "That was my sad touch"
    ABBYdoll : Blond Brain - Huge butt (don't stay behind or you will see nothing)
    ABBYhawk : No Brain - Big Muscles (never trust him)
    Fyros : A noob with a Great Heart (have no expectation and you will be happy)

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    We have a winner of Fawn's Treasure Hunt:

    Radicand {Atomic Mew} has just mailed Fawn an EE Forgotten Light.
    I offered him variations of the prize and he would like Xpack instead,
    so he will be getting that instead.

    Fawn only needs one, so she is calling off the search.
    If you have just pulled one, she will honor her offer,
    but you may stop looking now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sir_smacks_alot View Post
    With those things in mind, does a character in DDO ever truly retire?

    Similarly some day a new threat could arise that only the mightiest of the mighty, a true hero of the type legends are told of can have any hope of saving the good people of eberron or faerun.

    Could that true hero, who through many lifetimes of experience and knowledge of the arts of combat really sit idly by while others gain all the glory?
    Well said.
    Hats off to you.

    The devils and demons of Shavarath are not going to sit idly by...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lillou View Post
    Gratz little Fawn You can be proud of this achievement

    If perfection was meant to last forever... life would be so boring !
    Smiles so big she topples over.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lillou View Post
    Be realistic gamers already started to get bored…
    Ok, I'll be honest, brutally honest without thought or concern to others, just Fawn herself.

    Fawngate did her very first Caught in the Web yesterday; it was my first one as well.
    We both enjoyed it.
    The players were smart and even though one of them was very sleepy things went well.

    I logged off, and mowed the yard.
    Then Fawngate joined the Halfling games for Titan.
    She ran buns on the bottom and watched over the shoulder of the laser operator,
    getting a strong idea of the job of being lazer lady.

    I logged off, and played some TV for mom.
    Much later, Fawn shuffled the augments on her equipment,
    then went to bed.

    I got up this morning, found an forum mail about my beloved Forgotten Light.
    Went and bought some codes for me and him.
    This makes me want to move forward with flagging for Lord of Blades,
    and ponder whether the shield or the sickle is best to upgrade for Radiant Lore?

    Fawn is not anywhere near bored nor am I.
    She is tired of Korthos, hence Iconics appeal to her a lot.
    And as other players have suggested and I have resisted, I could play someone other than my main toon.

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    Oh, I forgot, there is her story to continue as well:

    https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post4993431

    That will take up lots of fun time.

    No, Fawn the TRer is not bored.
    Its the "I'm uber and I want uber loot only" folks that are bored.
    So, maybe the Devs are smart in tripling the amount of amount of TRing available?

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    Oh, I forgot tonight is the Hunger Games first month:

    https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...ds-be-with-you!

    That will be great fun too.

    Is Fawngate bored?
    Heavens no.

    She tried every augment she could think of and every point she could make
    on the new changes. She made her points clear till she ran out of breath.
    The dev post after that covered things she stressed, so what will be will be...

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    Nimbus of light is definitely bugged in that it does not add to the angel endless aura stacks or reborn in light.
    No wonder Fawnglow the cleric had trouble keeping light stacks, between that and no archon.
    I need to bug report that, although DDO Wiki listed that bug.

    Here, I found the linki:
    http://ddobugs.turbine.com/ics/suppo...&deptID=24037&

    DDO Wiki is wrong about Divine Punishment increasing the endless aura stack on every tick,
    it only does it when cast.

    Eppy Woot, happy times to finally be able to wander a wilderness area without and xp pot ticking away.
    I think I'll go make lunch while Fawn sits in the Cannith Manufactory.

    Or should I bypass the raid timer and join that normal CitW lfm?

    Choices, choices...
    Last edited by Silverleafeon; 06-15-2013 at 01:01 PM.

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    Cannith Raid Flagging lmf ~ normal ~ no xp ~ filled within 3 minutes.
    Had to boot Hermosa to make room for overflow.

    So, maybe the country club folks are bored and leaving,
    I don't know because I'm not exclusive and frankly I don't care.

    I do know that when I put up LFMs they fill super quick, because
    I am friendly know what I am doing willing to take anyone,
    willing to teach.

    So, Darree and I are talking about doing some friendly all welcome,
    we show you how raids.

    I was their on the outside looking in while the now bored people
    did not let me into their raids, so I have no sympathy at all for them..

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    Hi Fawn!

    Just letting you know that I would like to try at the Otto box instead of the 11k tps, thanks!

    Hoss~
    Hossa / Darree ~Khyber~ Doom Legion (Level 75)
    Proud Host of the DDO Hunger Games Along with Fawngate.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jendrak
    Somebody should definitely explain to Turbine that when they roll up a new GM that INT is not dump stat.

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    in game mail from Shev

    i would like to enter in for the 11k tp code from the lotto you posted on the forums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverleafeon View Post
    /ui layout load first

    Saved me a quarter of an hour.
    Thanks Devs.
    Reset my ui for the Hunger Games which was a great success.

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    I probably should not make this next post,
    but I'm an artist and artist copy the world.
    Eventually we see things reflected in our eyes
    and hands. Truth? Or is it mirrors of the heart?
    One will never know as they blend together.


    Today is a big day for both my Mom and I.

    It all started yesterday, when I drove to the village
    and got her a subway for a treat. Until that moment,
    I did realize which holiday it was.

    Later that night, I had a bad dream. If I described it,
    well it would sound so bad, but it shook me up.
    So, in the middle of the night, I turned on the computer
    and logged into Fawngate.

    I smiled as I saw no xp pots ticking. Chatted with a friend
    for a bit, then headed for House C. A moment by the crafting
    hall, tabbing out to research on DDO WIKI the subject of
    alchemical crafting.

    Then into the http://ddowiki.com/page/Map_of_House...th_Manufactury
    we plunged. Soon we reached the Cannith Melting station where
    we investigated the basic ingrediants for adding silver to an item.
    Lo and behold, we already crafted them.

    Onward forward to the Reforging station, and the big debate over
    whether to add silver to an alchemical heavy shield or a sickle.
    Eventually the two weapon fighting penalty of the sickle and the
    lack of light support in an evasion Epic Destiny made the shield
    win the day.

    Lol, I know Cloey would not approve, lol, Fawn is always lugging
    a shield around when a staff might be better, but this shield will
    be different, I hope.

    Pausing to check my emails, I realized that it has been a long time
    since I had a bad dream and had to log on to DDO in the middle of
    the night to forget things.

    Most of my recent late night activity has been press to get those
    last few lives done.

    So, I crept back to my room, back to peaceful slumberland.

    Mom got up early, then laid back down on the couch.

    Getting up late, I log in for a bit, checked the forums out,
    then headed out to the yard: weeding, push mowing, axe chopping,
    the usual country stuff.

    I came in later on, and Mom was awake, and we chatted about
    where the fairy tale stories come from. She was looking at her
    dolls and we talked about Disney.

    After a bit the conversation turned humorously satirical as we
    joked about overcoming things which should never have been,
    and how much we needed each other to survive. The fact that we
    heartily laughed at that which no longer is dawned on me.

    The dolls, the love boat and romantic DVDs, the old books,
    the mad money for DDO, the play by post D&D adventure stories,
    the Fawn's Fate story line (which I hope to continue)...

    All these things somehow, somewhere, we healed up.

    It the journey not the destination of uber completionist,
    somehow along the way I changed for the better.

    Perhaps unconsciously, my favorite character was a female
    healer because my Mom and I needed healing. In some
    way or another DDO was part of that.

    This is not to get sympathy, its just honest truth,
    or maybe just reflections of the heart which is all an
    artist can be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverleafeon View Post
    ...

    I do know that when I put up LFMs they fill super quick, because
    I am friendly know what I am doing willing to take anyone,
    willing to teach.

    So, Darree and I are talking about doing some friendly all welcome,
    we show you how raids.

    ...
    I can attest to "New Friendly" Teaching Raids for LoB and MA filling. Weekend of the 8th ran two back to back training for these raids on Heroic Normal and another set of two midweek after that. There seems to be many who got left out in the initial raid rush either because they were never picked or because they were to young (Characterwise) to know.

    I'm averaging about 30% first timers and a majority of "Run it once or twice, but didn't know what was going on".

    I choose Heroic Normal for a couple reasons...
    1) lower risk of a mistake = Failure, teaching knowing that mistakes can be made without a failure takes the pressure off the student allowing them to get the whole picture instead of a little part of it. Everyone understands what the pillars are for, when things can die and why things are left alive.

    2) LoB is unique in that the lower difficulties are needed to get the first tier and these difficulties can drop the 2nd tier as well. I know I learned these Raids on Epic (Not the Normal/Hard/Elite) we have today and was mainly set with tier 2 and 3 which look great except can't do anything with them. MA outside of binding shards and a raid token has pretty much the same loot on every difficulty.

    I actually look forward to you returning to "Teaching" the raids. The more classes held the more students we can reach, which will mean more people running these raids.

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    Without knowing about my last post, my Mom added to it,
    "...and friends, and art students, and people we have helped.."

    Lol, I think she just included all of you!

    Quote Originally Posted by Enoach View Post
    I actually look forward to you returning to "Teaching" the raids. The more classes held the more students we can reach, which will mean more people running these raids.
    Yes, yes, yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverleafeon View Post
    Perhaps unconsciously, my favorite character was a female
    healer because my Mom and I needed healing. In some
    way or another DDO was part of that.

    This is not to get sympathy, its just honest truth,
    or maybe just reflections of the heart which is all an
    artist can be.
    My heart is with both of you, healing takes time, pain fades eventually, but always remains in the bottom of our heart.
    I whish you peacefull nights my friend.
    ABBYdoll : Blond Brain - Huge butt (don't stay behind or you will see nothing)
    ABBYhawk : No Brain - Big Muscles (never trust him)
    Fyros : A noob with a Great Heart (have no expectation and you will be happy)

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    Anytime your raiding Fawn and I'm on, I'll join you. Alot of fun with the side benefit of a strong healer leading the group.
    Flufty, Flufs, Fluffi, Fluffit

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    Quote Originally Posted by fluffi View Post
    Anytime your raiding Fawn and I'm on, I'll join you. Alot of fun with the side benefit of a strong healer leading the group.
    Woot!

    I'm thinking Sun afternoons, and Wednesday Evenings.
    Putting up a separate thread for this.

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