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    Default 817hp and 41 necro dc wiz, :D

    http://my.ddo.com/character/argonnessen/xnder/


    lich,+yugo+rage=817.
    40+==40+=20+=100+717=817.

    for those of you who got nothing better to do but troll me i give you the wizzy* no one but me will ever be

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    Level 20 Lawful Good Warforged Male
    (2 Monk \ 18 Wizard) 
    Hit Points: 467
    Spell Points: 1333 
    BAB: 10\10\15\20
    Fortitude: 16
    Reflex: 18
    Will: 13
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength              8                     8
    Dexterity             8                     8
    Constitution         20                    25
    Intelligence         18                    29
    Wisdom                6                     8
    Charisma              6                     6
    
    Tomes Used
    +3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 20
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
    Balance              -1                    -1
    Bluff                -2                    -2
    Concentration         5                     8
    Diplomacy            -2                    -2
    Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
    Haggle               -2                    -2
    Heal                 -2                    -1
    Hide                 -1                    -1
    Intimidate           -2                    -2
    Jump                 -1                    -1
    Listen               -2                    -1
    Move Silently        -1                    -1
    Open Lock            n/a                   n/a
    Perform              n/a                   n/a
    Repair                4                     9
    Search                4                     9
    Spot                 -2                    -1
    Swim                 -1                    -1
    Tumble               n/a                   n/a
    Use Magic Device     n/a                   n/a
    
    Level 1 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Maximize Spell
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    
    
    Level 2 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 3 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    
    
    Level 4 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 5 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Heighten Spell
    
    
    Level 6 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    
    
    Level 7 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 8 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 9 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    
    
    Level 10 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Quicken Spell
    
    
    Level 11 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 12 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Selected) Insightful Reflexes
    
    
    Level 13 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 14 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 15 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Focus: Necromancy
    Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Spell Focus: Necromancy
    
    
    Level 16 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 17 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 18 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    
    
    Level 19 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
    
    
    Level 20 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
    Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness IV
    Enhancement: Corrosive Spellcasting I
    Enhancement: Glacial Spellcasting I
    Enhancement: Charged Spellcasting I
    Enhancement: Combustive Spellcasting I
    Enhancement: Deadly Ice I
    Enhancement: Deadly Shocks I
    Enhancement: Deadly Flame I
    Enhancement: Acid Manipulation I
    Enhancement: Frost Manipulation I
    Enhancement: Frost Manipulation II
    Enhancement: Storm Manipulation I
    Enhancement: Flame Manipulation I
    Enhancement: Flame Manipulation II
    Enhancement: Force Manipulation I
    Enhancement: Repair Manipulation I
    Enhancement: Repair Manipulation II
    Enhancement: Repair Manipulation III
    Enhancement: Repair Manipulation IV
    Enhancement: Repair Manipulation V
    Enhancement: Repair Manipulation VI
    Enhancement: Repair Manipulation VII
    Enhancement: Wizard Spell Penetration I
    Enhancement: Wizard Spell Penetration II
    Enhancement: Wizard Spell Penetration III
    Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar I
    Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar II
    Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar III
    Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence I
    Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence II
    Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence III
    Enhancement: Wizard Wand and Scroll Mastery I
    Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I
    Enhancement: Warforged Constitution II
    Enhancement: Warforged Inscribed Armor I
    Enhancement: Shroud of the Lich
    Enhancement: Wizard Pale Master I
    Enhancement: Wizard Pale Master II
    Enhancement: Wizard Pale Master III
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    gratz

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    Yeah but you have to take into acount how many feats he burt up on toughness and what his spell pen is.

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    So you sacrificed DCs and spell pen for extra 200hp, grats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ranncore View Post
    gratz

    thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alternative View Post
    So you sacrificed DCs and spell pen for extra 200hp, grats.
    41 NECRO dc. and 27 spell pen.

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    IMO 45ish DC's and 30+ spell pene trumps the extra 200ish HP's.

    How often does having 800ish HP's save you over 600ish HP's?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alternative View Post
    So you sacrificed DCs and spell pen for extra 200hp, grats.
    My thoughts exactly.

    EDIT: it's a first life toon, you can squeeze much more ubber in there. TR and some gear and a 44 DC is doable.

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    You are only showing a 38 intelligence. How are you achieving a 41 necro DC? IM assuming your linked stats are recorded while in form.

    I barely hit 41/42 necro on my Drow (maxed intell of 46 while in Lich form)
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    The other posters have good tips for you to improve your character. It's good to put this much effort into pushing your DCs and stats we much as you can, which you're clearly prioritizing. Caring about your character is half the battle.

    It looks like you could benefit from Cannith crafting on some of those items. One of your rings or your bracers could be +2 necromancy focus of concentration, jump, heavy fortification, or greater false life.

    Epic Bracers of the Claw, or Tower of Despair ring could give you +2 CON. An item like Litany of the Dead will boost both your INT and CON at the same time. An option that I don't particularly recommend because of tight slots, but which would work, would be to use 5-piece abishai set to increase your CON by 3 (not stacking with Litany of the Dead) and gain increases to your evocation spells to make your nukes almost on par with a pure wizard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mellkor View Post
    IMO 45ish DC's and 30+ spell pene trumps the extra 200ish HP's.

    How often does having 800ish HP's save you over 600ish HP's?
    mmhmm
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    i saw 11 people wipe on harry when he was slivered round 2 in a hard shroud and xnder had enough hp to take a few meteors in the face and jump around and finish him off. that's when it comes in handy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mellkor View Post
    IMO 45ish DC's and 30+ spell pene trumps the extra 200ish HP's.

    How often does having 800ish HP's save you over 600ish HP's?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranncore View Post
    i saw 11 people wipe on harry when he was slivered round 2 in a hard shroud and xnder had enough hp to take a few meteors in the face and jump around and finish him off. that's when it comes in handy.
    Doesn't sound like much of an achievement or one you'd run into often but all that aside....seems like one feat on Insightful kinda covers that, no...?

    I don't actually care, if the guy doesn't like DCs or SP, more power to him. Your statement was pretty odd though.

    Edit: I see he has 2monk, so probably has it. Makes your statement even less impressive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthios888 View Post
    The other posters have good tips for you to improve your character. It's good to put this much effort into pushing your DCs and stats we much as you can, which you're clearly prioritizing. Caring about your character is half the battle.

    It looks like you could benefit from Cannith crafting on some of those items. One of your rings or your bracers could be +2 necromancy focus of concentration, jump, heavy fortification, or greater false life.

    Epic Bracers of the Claw, or Tower of Despair ring could give you +2 CON. An item like Litany of the Dead will boost both your INT and CON at the same time. An option that I don't particularly recommend because of tight slots, but which would work, would be to use 5-piece abishai set to increase your CON by 3 (not stacking with Litany of the Dead) and gain increases to your evocation spells to make your nukes almost on par with a pure wizard.

    Good luck to you.
    working on the set have all i need to make bracers/gloves/head. so far thank you for your advice
    i have a grater necro kama i use when i need to get 41 dc and thats out of from and i use yogu pots and if i get ship thats 41 but 40 with 42int
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranncore View Post
    i saw 11 people wipe on harry when he was slivered round 2 in a hard shroud and xnder had enough hp to take a few meteors in the face and jump around and finish him off. that's when it comes in handy.
    thanks
    and thanks again for helping me get my yogu pots

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    Just my opinion but I wouldn't go the full chrono set Xnder, in my eyes a wizard greatly benefits from the 45 hp(+ concentration) item and conc opp sp item. The only other way to make it work is to use your belt slot (giving up rhakirs is just loosing damage) and your necklace slot for torc or whatever else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moo_cow View Post
    Just my opinion but I wouldn't go the full chrono set Xnder, in my eyes a wizard greatly benefits from the 45 hp(+ concentration) item and conc opp sp item. The only other way to make it work is to use your belt slot (giving up rhakirs is just loosing damage) and your necklace slot for torc or whatever else.
    thanks thats why i have not crafted them yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alternative View Post
    So you sacrificed DCs and spell pen for extra 200hp, grats.
    1 toughness is 22 hp- 10 is 220.
    any char can take 7 base feats.
    i have 2 feats mnk. 2 toughness
    4 wiz. feats quicken-empower-highten-maxmize-
    7 base feats. insightfull ref, sf necro. gsf necro. another toughness. spell pen,grtr spell pen sf ench
    think thats all if its not let me know
    so im only wasting 1 feat..
    B4 my gr guess i dumped sf ench hate ccing and both spell pens.
    there thats the 66hp im missing, messed up just a lil but not like i even own anything where i need ubar cc and spell pen
    not that i want this guy to do any way i wanna feel extra usefull in a quest ill use my healer i wanna be super dps ill bringer my ranged beast.


    4+7+2=13.
    happy ?


    and no ever since my gr i do not bother with eda/echrono thats my healers job,:P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranncore View Post
    i saw 11 people wipe on harry when he was slivered round 2 in a hard shroud and xnder had enough hp to take a few meteors in the face and jump around and finish him off. that's when it comes in handy.
    With just 600HP, fireshield (blue) and insigful reflex Zandos can do this too (but I would rather raise cleric ASAP, just in case of sudden lag attack)

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