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    Default 12monk/6fighter/2rogue - feedback appreciated :o)

    Hello,
    here is a story:
    Once I made build kinda similar to Nicks CC beast 12f/7monk/1rog. He is prooly obsessed by same things like me. Anyway, game changed really much during my over half year absention, so this build is not that good in my eyes right now. Main thing is monk stances upgrade+ some really awesome items like spare hand and epic frozen tunic...

    So... 1th idea was 12monk/7rogue/1fighter - with earth stance all time except bosses, because of that silly hate...
    - great trash beater with awesome cc abilities and trap skills+ I already have +4 int tome on this toon(It should be pure rogue assasin, but... I changed my mind). But... It has weak to-hit in my opinion(i am so lazy to cast divine power all time) and not that high CC ability like 12monk/6fighter/2rogue.

    There are goals of this build:
    - high stun DCs
    - CC – harm/impr sunder/still not bad trip/fist+blow/sap +tunic procs
    - ok, I am not sure about this, but with my basic game knowledge I think it has pretty high dps. With all that bursts on rings and weapons looks stances in that case like earth>wind>sun.
    - survivability - incorrporal, high umd for scrolls, high saves + dmg reduction in earth stance and not bad heal ampl
    - high to-hit -19 BAB, high str bonus and fighter PL

    NUMBERS:
    Stats:
    Str – 28 +6 item +1 exc +1 litany +3abishai +2yugo +2rage +2 ship = 45(+4 tome would be nice or I can drop str by one for the other stats) +4 double madstone situationaly – 49
    Con – 17 +6 item +1exc +1litany +2yugo +2rage + 2 ship +3 earth stance= 34 +8 double madstone – 39
    WIs – 19 +6 item +1exc +1litany +2ship +2yugo =31(another +4tome fits here :-D)
    --- Here I just see one thing – can take down 1 str at start and put it into wis plus something


    HP:
    300
    +
    120 stat bonus
    45 gs item
    40 earth stance
    30 GFL
    10 agro
    20 toughness
    =565
    80 madstone
    40 yugo
    =685 top

    DC:
    Stun fist – 10 base +10level +10 wisdom +3ench +1PL +5spare hand +10 item= 48
    Stun blow – 10 base +17 str +3 ench +1PL +5spare hand +10 item = 45
    Impr sunder – 14 base +17 str +2 ench +1PL +5spare hand = 39
    Trip = 35
    --- it screams for alchemical handwraps – Air/Fire/whatever


    Lets show some info from planner:

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    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.12.01
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    Level 20 Lawful Good Human Male
    (6 Fighter \ 12 Monk \ 2 Rogue) 
    Hit Points: 300
    Spell Points: 0 
    BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
    Fortitude: 16
    Reflex: 16
    Will: 14
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             18                    28
    Dexterity            14                    17
    Constitution         14                    17
    Intelligence          8                    12
    Wisdom               14                    19
    Charisma              8                    10
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 11
    +4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 15
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
    Balance               2                     7
    Bluff                -1                     1
    Concentration         2                     5
    Diplomacy            -1                     3
    Disable Device       n/a                    n/a
    Haggle               -1                     0
    Heal                  2                     4
    Hide                  2                     8
    Intimidate           -1                     3
    Jump                  4                    11
    Listen                2                     4
    Move Silently         2                     8
    Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
    Perform              n/a                    n/a
    Repair               -1                     1
    Search               -1                     2
    Spot                  2                     4
    Swim                  4                     9
    Tumble                n/a                   n/a
    Use Magic Device     n/a                    1
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Stunning Blow
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    
    
    Level 2 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist
    
    
    Level 3 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack
    Feat: (Selected) Sap
    
    
    Level 4 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness
    
    
    Level 5 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons
    
    
    Level 6 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Dodge
    Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 7 (Fighter)
    
    
    Level 8 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Bludgeoning Weapons
    
    
    Level 9 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Student of the Sword
    
    
    Level 10 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
    
    
    Level 11 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 12 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 13 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Improved Sunder
    
    
    Level 14 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 15 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 16 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 17 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 18 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Hamstring
    
    
    Level 19 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 20 (Rogue)
    Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
    Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
    Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
    Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
    Enhancement: Kensei Unarmed Mastery I
    Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
    Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
    Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I
    Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) I
    Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) II
    Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Sunder) I
    Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Trip) I
    Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
    Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Wisdom I
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
    Enhancement: Static Charge
    Enhancement: Way of the Elegant Crane I
    Enhancement: Way of the Elegant Crane II
    Enhancement: Touch of Death
    Enhancement: Fists of Iron
    Enhancement: Porous Soul
    Enhancement: All-Consuming Flame
    Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I
    Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy I
    Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy II
    Enhancement: Winter's Touch
    Enhancement: Adept of Wind
    Enhancement: Master of Thunder
    Enhancement: Adept of Rock
    Enhancement: Master of Stone
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
    Enhancement: Improved Hide II
    Enhancement: Improved Jump I
    Enhancement: Improved Jump II
    Enhancement: Improved Move Silently II
    Enhancement: Improved Tumble I
    Enhancement: Improved Tumble II
    Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
    Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
    Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
    Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
    So... I really would like to see some info from you, guys. Similar builds on forums, which I could have missed. Advices about this build etc... Just one thing - I would like to keep goals of this build. Also +4int tome is so wasted with this build, but I dont know how to use this potential(no wizard pls, I already grinding PLs on my main :-D)

    See you...


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    you helped me to do a true beast! Now I managed to reach higher wis, impr trip+higher DC, higher stun DCs, higher UMD, much more HPs. Lets look on it.
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    Level 20 Lawful Neutral Human Male
    (7 Fighter \ 12 Monk \ 1 Rogue) 
    Hit Points: 294
    Spell Points: 0 
    BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
    Fortitude: 16
    Reflex: 15
    Will: 15
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             17                    28
    Dexterity            14                    17
    Constitution         14                    17
    Intelligence          9                    13
    Wisdom               15                    21
    Charisma              8                    11
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
    +3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11
    +4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 15
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
    Balance               2                     7
    Bluff                -1                     0
    Concentration         2                     3
    Diplomacy            -1                     2
    Disable Device       n/a                    n/a
    Haggle               -1                     0
    Heal                  2                     5
    Hide                  2                     7
    Intimidate           -1                     4
    Jump                  3                    11
    Listen                2                     5
    Move Silently         2                     7
    Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
    Perform              n/a                    n/a
    Repair               -1                     1
    Search               -1                     1
    Spot                  2                     5
    Swim                  3                     9
    Tumble                n/a                   n/a
    Use Magic Device     n/a                    n/a
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Stunning Blow
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    
    
    Level 2 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist
    
    
    Level 3 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack
    Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons
    
    
    Level 4 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness
    
    
    Level 5 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 6 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 7 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge
    
    
    Level 8 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 9 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Sap
    
    
    Level 10 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 11 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Hamstring
    
    
    Level 12 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 13 (Fighter)
    
    
    Level 14 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Bludgeoning Weapons
    
    
    Level 15 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 16 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Combat Expertise
    
    
    Level 17 (Fighter)
    
    
    Level 18 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Trip
    
    
    Level 19 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 20 (Monk)
    Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost I
    Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
    Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
    Enhancement: Fighter Stalwart Defender I
    Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) I
    Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) II
    Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) III
    Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Trip) I
    Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Trip) II
    Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
    Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Wisdom I
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
    Enhancement: Static Charge
    Enhancement: Way of the Elegant Crane I
    Enhancement: Way of the Elegant Crane II
    Enhancement: Touch of Death
    Enhancement: Fists of Iron
    Enhancement: Porous Soul
    Enhancement: All-Consuming Flame
    Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I
    Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy I
    Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy II
    Enhancement: Winter's Touch
    Enhancement: Adept of Wind
    Enhancement: Master of Thunder
    Enhancement: Adept of Rock
    Enhancement: Master of Stone
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
    Enhancement: Improved Intimidate I
    Enhancement: Improved Intimidate II
    Enhancement: Improved Jump I
    Enhancement: Improved Jump II
    Enhancement: Improved Tumble I
    Enhancement: Improved Tumble II
    Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
    Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
    Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
    Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II
    Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
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    I think the nicest thing about the 12 monk/6 fighter split is the capacity to be an awesome tank, for this reason I'd go for Stalwart Defender rather than Kensei. Still easy to have very good stun DCs, just refer to my Other than Average rogue build in my index for the break down of DC 50 stunning fist, 45-50 stunning bow and 45-50 improved sunder. That said, I'm seriously considering doing triple fighter past life to get it that much higher for epic bladesworn paladins and a few other mobs but I wouldn't want to give up such a great capacity to tank just for this.

    In other news, I'd look at half-elf, rogue dilettante, /2 artificer rather than what you have now, more sneak attack damage, better UMD/scroll healing and a breaker of boxes
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    Quote Originally Posted by wax_on_wax_off View Post
    I think the nicest thing about the 12 monk/6 fighter split is the capacity to be an awesome tank, for this reason I'd go for Stalwart Defender rather than Kensei. Still easy to have very good stun DCs, just refer to my Other than Average rogue build in my index for the break down of DC 50 stunning fist, 45-50 stunning bow and 45-50 improved sunder. That said, I'm seriously considering doing triple fighter past life to get it that much higher for epic bladesworn paladins and a few other mobs but I wouldn't want to give up such a great capacity to tank just for this.

    In other news, I'd look at half-elf, rogue dilettante, /2 artificer rather than what you have now, more sneak attack damage, better UMD/scroll healing and a breaker of boxes
    No half-elf race and no arti so...) But ill check you rogue build.) TY


    EDIT: And I want to TR only once with this char.
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    Ok, saw your rogue build, its a pretty nice build but... I have not an half elf, which seems to be the key race for this build. Also HP isnt that good... No utilities like incorrporal, dmg reduction in tough trash fights... About dps - monk finishers+ToD+x3 crit mult vs rogue assasintion and much better sneak... Rly nice thing I see there but - better apply of +4int tome because of all that CE/assasinations etc... Also madstone prevents you from use your scrolls+trap skill. See use of this item only in boss fights... Also your build will have some to-hit issues prolly.../

    Man, very good feedback.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by domecek1 View Post
    Ok, saw your rogue build, its a pretty nice build but... I have not an half elf, which seems to be the key race for this build. Also HP isnt that good... No utilities like incorrporal, dmg reduction in tough trash fights... About dps - monk finishers+ToD+x3 crit mult vs rogue assasintion and much better sneak... Rly nice thing I see there but - better apply of +4int tome because of all that CE/assasinations etc... Also madstone prevents you from use your scrolls+trap skill. See use of this item only in boss fights... Also your build will have some to-hit issues prolly.../

    Man, very good feedback.)
    Madstone doesn't prevent trap skills (afaik) and can still self heal with silver flame pots.

    Can manage 500 HP stable (with +2 exceptional con ring) and 650 or so fully tank buffed (yugo, double madstone) along with 5% DR from earth stance which is enough to tank most epic quest bosses (not raids obviously).

    I've soloed portions of epic quests (throw up LFM and start the quest), played the primary CC role (in eTTT), played the healer role, tank role etc.

    However, I mainly linked the build just so you could see the ways to reach high tactics DCs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wax_on_wax_off View Post
    Madstone doesn't prevent trap skills (afaik) and can still self heal with silver flame pots.

    Can manage 500 HP stable (with +2 exceptional con ring) and 650 or so fully tank buffed (yugo, double madstone) along with 5% DR from earth stance which is enough to tank most epic quest bosses (not raids obviously).

    I've soloed portions of epic quests (throw up LFM and start the quest), played the primary CC role (in eTTT), played the healer role, tank role etc.

    However, I mainly linked the build just so you could see the ways to reach high tactics DCs.
    Doesnt? Wow! good to know lol... Yep got some inspiration from your build. ALso found another build called "emerald something..." with 2 rogue level, which is able to reach over 50 trap skill without full ranks. So my +4 int tome will not be that wasted...) (my char planner will burn soon...)
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    so... been thinking about items...(no switches for trap skill items - reached some good numbers in ddo planner(19Search/14DD/20con/26umd(feat umd focus and no impr sunder), but I think just focus in concentration/UMD/open lock will be good enough)

    head:epic frost /GFL
    trinket: litany
    googles: tharness
    neck: shintao
    cloak: GS Hp/+6 char skills GS
    armor: frozen tunic
    belt: epic spare hand /luck bonus
    bracers: some crafted heavy fort bracers with medium/large guild slot ---> another 15/20 hp or just epic bracers of the claw
    boots: epic corrosion /toughness /madstone
    gloves: epic charged
    ring 1: kyosho +holy burst
    ring 2: epic stalker /+4 resist

    weapon:anything situational

    with this items it should be able to do everything with rly small item swaping P
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    Quote Originally Posted by domecek1 View Post
    so... been thinking about items...(no switches for trap skill items - reached some good numbers in ddo planner(19Search/14DD/20con/26umd(feat umd focus and no impr sunder), but I think just focus in concentration/UMD/open lock will be good enough)

    head:epic frost /GFL
    trinket: litany
    googles: tharness
    neck: shintao
    cloak: GS Hp/+6 char skills GS
    armor: frozen tunic
    belt: epic spare hand /luck bonus
    bracers: some crafted heavy fort bracers with medium/large guild slot ---> another 15/20 hp or just epic bracers of the claw
    boots: epic corrosion /toughness /madstone
    gloves: epic charged
    ring 1: kyosho +holy burst
    ring 2: epic stalker /+4 resist

    weapon:anything situational

    with this items it should be able to do everything with rly small item swaping P
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    I have a 12monk/7fighter/1rog.

    Love it, prefer stalwart over Kensai, there are no to hit issues, rocks stunning fist of 51, blow of 49 I think.

    If you want to skimp on rogue skills, and of course you can, then you can manage with the one lvl of rogue for your umd, Fighter 7 gets you some more hp and another +1 combat DC (fighter tactics).

    I have over recent times used mine to tank shadows in TODs great fun and I actually find it easier than doing it on my arcane, go figure lol......

    Mine is a warforged, so more than likely people look down on it, due to being melee and not Halfelf or Halforc, but funny thing is it is still remarkably survivable, tanked elite TOD Suulo on it etc.

    A fun build, that isnt only ultra survivable, but also packs a serious punch, has high CC capabilities and can tank most content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoasterHops View Post
    I have a 12monk/7fighter/1rog.

    Love it, prefer stalwart over Kensai, there are no to hit issues, rocks stunning fist of 51, blow of 49 I think.

    If you want to skimp on rogue skills, and of course you can, then you can manage with the one lvl of rogue for your umd, Fighter 7 gets you some more hp and another +1 combat DC (fighter tactics).

    I have over recent times used mine to tank shadows in TODs great fun and I actually find it easier than doing it on my arcane, go figure lol......

    Mine is a warforged, so more than likely people look down on it, due to being melee and not Halfelf or Halforc, but funny thing is it is still remarkably survivable, tanked elite TOD Suulo on it etc.

    A fun build, that isnt only ultra survivable, but also packs a serious punch, has high CC capabilities and can tank most content.
    Heya,
    I rly dont understand, why everyone want to tank everything... People are obsessed about it. I am just worried about high hate generation, when I will not tank with earth/defender stance... But yeah, thinking a lot about kensaiXstalwart. True is, stalwart gives too much over kensai on Tier1, not tier2, but tier 1 looks superior. It also cost less AP... In boss fights I can just turn into wind stance...

    TY for your feedback, man.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by wax_on_wax_off View Post
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    Hmmmm, you got me.) Rly nice, I love it! Forgot about wretched lol... This item... it rocks so hard, I love this threat reduction. And for tanking, I can just swap for Epic roc or something like that.

    Guys, I rly appreciate this. Cant wait for TR my toon now...) But mb I should wait for epic destinies, it will change things a lot...
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    Quote Originally Posted by domecek1 View Post
    Hmmmm, you got me.) Rly nice, I love it! Forgot about wretched lol... This item... it rocks so hard, I love this threat reduction. And for tanking, I can just swap for Epic roc or something like that.

    Guys, I rly appreciate this. Cant wait for TR my toon now...) But mb I should wait for epic destinies, it will change things a lot...
    Head: cove balance/SA hat
    trinket: litany
    googles: Epic Time-Sensing Goggles
    neck: shintao
    cloak: epic cape of the roc
    armor: frozen tunic
    belt: airguard HP belt
    bracers: epic bracers of the claw
    boots: madstone
    gloves: epic gloves of the claw
    ring 1: kyosho +holy burst
    ring 2: epic stalker /+4 resist
    Mainhand: air/air alchemical handwraps
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    Quote Originally Posted by wax_on_wax_off View Post
    Head: cove balance/SA hat
    trinket: litany
    googles: Epic Time-Sensing Goggles
    neck: shintao
    cloak: epic cape of the roc
    armor: frozen tunic
    belt: airguard HP belt
    bracers: epic bracers of the claw
    boots: madstone
    gloves: epic gloves of the claw
    ring 1: kyosho +holy burst
    ring 2: epic stalker /+4 resist
    Mainhand: air/air alchemical handwraps
    I would miss much epic spare hand.../ Also I will gain much from greater abishai over claw set even.(managed to reach impr trip, so str is more important now)
    Khyber - Darquel 20 bard (2xpast life bard) // Pelo 20 wizard (past life wiz/sorc) // Tyrantei 10 monk/7 fighter/1 rogue ( past life fighter) // Tyrcael 16 paladin (past life favored soul) // Tarrpancale 17 monk
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    I already Have 12Ninja/7Stalwart/1Rog Half-Elf Dil Rogue, i want ask why u did 2 rogue?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zio_Kose View Post
    I already Have 12Ninja/7Stalwart/1Rog Half-Elf Dil Rogue, i want ask why u did 2 rogue?
    I changed it. Its almost impossible(too many items switches) to fit trap skills high enough for epic content even with 2 levels of rogue. So changed it to 12mnk/7f/1r. ALso managed to reach imp trip on this build, so my +4 int tome isnt wasted. So two levels of rogue was just for trap skills and to make some use of my +4int tome.

    Btw, why you took stalwart? Because I realized that nasty thing about no rage and madstone rage able in stance... So... It means -2DC to CC in comparation to kensai. Also less dmg. Btw, with my new build I can reach over 40 DC impr trip without vertigo item. ALso stun fist over 50... If you guys are interested in my new variant, I can post it here with some numbers.) Refused on tanking role, there are too many tanks these days, so trash beater + awesome CC ability is the way I went. Cant wait for this, but missing many items right now, so lets grind!)
    Khyber - Darquel 20 bard (2xpast life bard) // Pelo 20 wizard (past life wiz/sorc) // Tyrantei 10 monk/7 fighter/1 rogue ( past life fighter) // Tyrcael 16 paladin (past life favored soul) // Tarrpancale 17 monk
    Proud officer of czech guild Mrtvej Pes and member of Pilchards.

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