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    Default What happens to the crystals when a kobold dies?

    In the Cove and in Challenges, what happens to the crystals when a kobold dies? I can think of a number of possibilities, but I'm not sure which one is actually true:

    1. The crystal is lost forever.
    2. The kobold still has the crystal and will turn it in if resurrected.
    3. The crystal is dropped nearby (possibly without being visible) and another kobold can pick it up.
    4. The crystal reappears in its original location.
    5. Something else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snarglefrump View Post
    In the Cove and in Challenges, what happens to the crystals when a kobold dies? I can think of a number of possibilities, but I'm not sure which one is actually true:

    1. The crystal is lost forever.
    2. The kobold still has the crystal and will turn it in if resurrected.
    3. The crystal is dropped nearby (possibly without being visible) and another kobold can pick it up.
    4. Something else.
    Number 1.

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    If you resurrect a double-barrel kobold, does he get to keep living on the edge (despite suffering back pain), or get demoted back to a one-barrel kobold? I've never been sure when I have a soulstone and resurrect one how many barrels they had to begin with.

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    They lose the crystals and come back with one barrel when you rez them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KraahgDaAxe View Post
    Number 1.
    Could you describe the observations you've made that lead you to that conclusion?
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    Never seen any kobold pick up a "phantom" crystal near where a loaded kobold died, and I've seen 4-barrel kobolds loaded with purples get killed, so I definitely would have noticed a 40 point swing in accumulated crystals.

    Rezzed kobolds show up right at the foreman, with a single barrel, and they go off to get more crystals instead of turning in whatever they were carrying before they croaked it.
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    Kobold take shiny to sewer in sky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snarglefrump View Post
    Could you describe the observations you've made that lead you to that conclusion?
    Kobold with purples in barrels dies. I grab its stone and go up to the foreman and have it raised. No crystal. I also do not see a crystal drop near the corpse, or another kobold pick up a dropped crystal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chai View Post
    Kobold with purples in barrels dies. I grab its stone and go up to the foreman and have it raised.
    How exactly do you raise a dead kobold?
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    Quote Originally Posted by brian14 View Post
    How exactly do you raise a dead kobold?
    Pick-up the stone and carry it to the foreman. Talk to the foreman and he will give you an option to res the kobold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brian14 View Post
    How exactly do you raise a dead kobold?
    Talk to the forman, he takes crystals to raise the kobold. the cost increases with each rez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TPICKRELL View Post
    Talk to the forman, he takes crystals to raise the kobold. the cost increases with each rez.
    I see. I always heard "it is cheaper/easier to buy a new kobold", and now I understand why.

    Ironically, few minutes ago on a completely differnt forum I posted a comment about 19th Century industrialists treating workers as disposable parts -- and I did not mean it as a compliment
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    Quote Originally Posted by brian14 View Post
    I see. I always heard "it is cheaper/easier to buy a new kobold", and now I understand why.

    Ironically, few minutes ago on a completely differnt forum I posted a comment about 19th Century industrialists treating workers as disposable parts -- and I did not mean it as a compliment
    In the cove, I always buy all possible additional kobolds at the beginning, so any more requires a req. If there is a reasonable amount of time left, the kobold will more than make up for his rez cost (at least the first couple will). that being said, if I'm on a good path for max crystals, I don't generally bother rezing kobolds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TPICKRELL View Post
    Talk to the forman, he takes crystals to raise the kobold. the cost increases with each rez.
    What happens if you have already reached max crystals? Can you still rez konolds? Does it still cost?

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    If you have already reached max crystals... why would you need to raise a kobold?

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    Quote Originally Posted by My2Cents View Post
    What happens if you have already reached max crystals? Can you still rez konolds? Does it still cost?
    Pretty sure you can't raise them at that point, but since you are done, that's no big deal.

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    That sounds like something MrCow would do -- reach dragonshards limit, then start buying stuff from the Foreman just to see what will happen.
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    5) Every time a kobold dies, a succubus gets her wings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brian14 View Post
    That sounds like something MrCow would do -- reach dragonshards limit, then start buying stuff from the Foreman just to see what will happen.
    You can't. you have "no shards" with which to buy things with. I've tried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaunra2010 View Post
    5) Every time a kobold dies, a succubus gets her wings.
    So that's why they are made out of leather... odd fetish, but nice look though!

    As for kobolds dying, you lose the crystals and you lose the extra barrels they had (if any). From my guildies discussion last night it's worth while to raise the first two kobolds as it's cheaper than getting a new worker (<- haven't verified but I'm sure it's right). After that just get new workers.... and faster toons to guard the centre/line.

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