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    Default Exceptional HP/SP for your class

    This post is for people to post some exceptional HP/SP for your class, I will start it with a picture of exceptional FvS HP, and will soon add some exceptional wizard SP ^^

    Note: this toon is an adventurer


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    Default Exceptional wizard SP

    This is the wizard with exceptional SP



    3K SP on a wizard seems pretty nice to me


    Edit: Don't know why this picture is so small :S
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    Default Exceptional bard HP

    I figured that this, not too much buffed bard who ever was our HoX bard/tank deserved a spot here too


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    I'd be more impressed if you didn't have the Positive Energy Infusion in your buff bar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WielderofGigantus View Post
    I'd be more impressed if you didn't have the Positive Energy Infusion in your buff bar.
    Posting 1k HP on a FvS as an achievement is pretty unimpressive considering how useless it is without having the proper feats, enhancements and build setup that make the class great.

    If you were to post the entire build and prove that you could use implosion or hit things in melee or even if you only healed as well as other FvS while having 1k + HP then maybe I would conceed that this is an achievement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by morticianjohn View Post
    Posting 1k HP on a FvS as an achievement is pretty unimpressive considering how useless it is without having the proper feats, enhancements and build setup that make the class great.

    If you were to post the entire build and prove that you could use implosion or hit things in melee or even if you only healed as well as other FvS while having 1k + HP then maybe I would conceed that this is an achievement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by morticianjohn View Post
    Posting 1k HP on a FvS as an achievement is pretty unimpressive considering how useless it is without having the proper feats, enhancements and build setup that make the class great.

    If you were to post the entire build and prove that you could use implosion or hit things in melee or even if you only healed as well as other FvS while having 1k + HP then maybe I would conceed that this is an achievement.
    No DC's BUT
    Maxed out healing
    Maxed ot smiting
    Maxed out intimidate
    Greater threat
    Conclusion: Tank/Healer.
    Feats I got: Empower, Maximise, Quicken, Empower healing, Shield mastery, Toughness 4 times
    Now please link any screenshot of your FvS, I wanna have a laugh too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by keveniaftw View Post
    No DC's
    Toughness 4 times
    Such a waste of an amazing, amazing class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uthanak69 View Post
    Such a waste of an amazing, amazing class.

    Well, I certainly understand this perspective. Buuuut, we need to be fair and realize this build has some stuff going for it actually. It certainly CAN fill a nice roll as a DoT tank.

    1. Gets the debuff procs.
    2. Self heals
    3. Lots of damage mitigation (DR, elemental, shield mastery)
    4. Solid damage


    Here's where I come down on these: I would NOT want to PLAY this toon. But, I sure as heck wouldn't mind running with it for an easy raid completion.


    EDIT: nvm on the DR (at least from FVS). This build is not pure fvs
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    id rather have a fvs that stay alive and heal than a fvs that grind the kill count cuz hes uber and than die at the end fight!!

    Also nice achievment!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by keveniaftw View Post
    No DC's BUT
    Maxed out healing
    Maxed ot smiting
    Maxed out intimidate
    Greater threat
    Conclusion: Tank/Healer.
    Feats I got: Empower, Maximise, Quicken, Empower healing, Shield mastery, Toughness 4 times
    Now please link any screenshot of your FvS, I wanna have a laugh too...
    Improved Shield mastery would be better than a 4th toughness but because you want to post a screenshot you ignore the obvious.

    I'm not laughing at you, just saying that anyone can max CON and put on all HP buffs to get a screenshot this is not an achievement in and of itself (which is why you're the first person to make this thread)

    edit:// my point is you could have a SD 1 or DoS 1 FvS with max CON (maybe with barb levels also) and all toughness feats come and blow your 1k HP out of the water but is that an achievement? I really don't think so as that mix couldn't contribute much to the party. Ultimately we can agree or disagree on your build but that is irrelevant to the fact that a HP/SP achievement thread is pointless. Oh and BTW I do like DoT tanks but I don't think dwarf with fighter levels is the way to go with them. Other than that I have no problems with your build (nothing personal dude).
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    Any monkey that takes a bunch of toughness feats, eats a bunch of temporary buff cookies and has an artificer on hand can reach ridiculous hp numbers too.

    I was expecting a thread of your typical epic raiding buffed hp, and probably not of niche builds like the OP's. I guess this isn't one of those threads.
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    It seems like some people don't really get the build I'm using so I'll explain it a bit
    FIrst of all, I do not have any fighter lvls, I'm a 18 FvS/2 monk
    For my DR: Lorrik's (15 DR), Epic ringleader full plate (5 DR) = 20 DR without buffs
    For this screenshot, I went full HP yes, but when raiding I got like 780 HP/2650 SP average, for healing/tanking this is good enough, certainly if u know I use a +3 con (conc opp) green steel kama/Conc opp boots for SP regen when tanking.
    Since a FvS can never get his intimi high enough for several things to tank, I also act like kiter in several raids if needed (with gs haste clicky I can go on kiting while healing others)

    I do not tank stuff that shouldn't be tanked by me (hard/elite HoX, LoB, MA so I act like a survivor/healer here)

    I know some people wouldn't want to play my toon, but that isn't my problem. I just do not want to look like some kind of FvS that dumped all into just con and toughnesses and ignore all other capacities...

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    Well, you specialize in one thing, you become better at it than an FVS that's more versatile. You'd do better in Raids as a dedicated healer. If you have alot of chars, then thats ok. It's a useful character to have. Even if not, an LR isn't that expensive incase you wanna try something else.

    I thought about making a FVS with maxed out HP & SP just to be a healbot when I TR'd my main FVS into another class. Would have as much HP / SP as a fully geared FVS with less amount of time and resources.

    On the other hand, 780 HP - 4 toughness enhancements is 688 HP. Not bad either.
    If you move 4 toughness to Mental toughness, you could get a 3400 SP as well. More than enough? Probably, but if you really wanted to conserve on pot usage, it's an option for a dedicated healer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keveniaftw View Post
    It seems like some people don't really get the build I'm using so I'll explain it a bit
    FIrst of all, I do not have any fighter lvls, I'm a 18 FvS/2 monk
    For my DR: Lorrik's (15 DR), Epic ringleader full plate (5 DR) = 20 DR without buffs
    For this screenshot, I went full HP yes, but when raiding I got like 780 HP/2650 SP average, for healing/tanking this is good enough, certainly if u know I use a +3 con (conc opp) green steel kama/Conc opp boots for SP regen when tanking.
    Since a FvS can never get his intimi high enough for several things to tank, I also act like kiter in several raids if needed (with gs haste clicky I can go on kiting while healing others)

    I do not tank stuff that shouldn't be tanked by me (hard/elite HoX, LoB, MA so I act like a survivor/healer here)

    I know some people wouldn't want to play my toon, but that isn't my problem. I just do not want to look like some kind of FvS that dumped all into just con and toughnesses and ignore all other capacities...
    The real issue here, is that any 500+ HP FvS (which means any well built one), can do everything you're claiming, and then some.
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    Quote Originally Posted by keveniaftw View Post
    For my DR: Lorrik's (15 DR), Epic ringleader full plate (5 DR) = 20 DR without buffs
    As a tank/healer, I can see you have a deep understanding of how Damage Reduction works.

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    No rats but in fact kobolds!!!! My hp's are weak tho



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    Quote Originally Posted by keveniaftw View Post
    For my DR: Lorrik's (15 DR), Epic ringleader full plate (5 DR) = 20 DR without buffs
    I'm going to assume you know that the 15 from Lorrik's is only while blocking but that's not quite how it works: You'd have more than 20 DR shield blocking.

    From the DDO wiki:

    "With Shield:

    This formula applies when blocking with a shield, regardless of what's in your main hand.

    Active Melee DR = (BAB / 2) + 2 + Shield DR rating + Shield Mastery Enhancements

    Active Ranged DR = Active Melee DR / 2
    The following enhancements may be taken to increase Active DR while using a shield.

    Dwarven shield mastery +1, 2, or 3 (for levels I, II, and III of the enhancement)"

    So your actual DR while shield blocking (and with divine power) would be 10+2+15= 27 (plus anything from dwarf), plus your normal DR (5), for a total of at least 33 while shield blocking.

    Edit: the only buff that would increase this is Stoneskin. blocking DR stacks with other DRs, other DRs never stack (except for some specific cases with warforged).

    Edit 2: Okay, divine power increases it for you and I forgot about that as I included it above because I assumed it was being used.
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    How about exceptional unbuffed hp/sp, all buffs are temporary, some are just more sustainable than others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcrashzone View Post
    How about exceptional unbuffed hp/sp, all buffs are temporary, some are just more sustainable than others.
    HP is more about gear, temporary or not. It's not achievement to take toughness more times than you should.

    Nothing wrong with a FvS DoT tank, as a poster said above; I wouldn't play the toon but I don't begrudge anyone who does, it's a solid build (just check other achievement threads).
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