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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dearen View Post
    sorry if i "resurrect" this old post but i'm a new (F2P) ddo player and i like this build idea (DM Elf with Falcion) .. so i would ask if someone, more experienced than me, can upgrade the build with the last game updates .. TYVM
    Well. I'm by no means an experienced player myself yet either, and unbongwah him(?)self is also quite active here in the forums still, but... something like this maybe?

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    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.19.02
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    Level 21 True Neutral Elf Female
    (12 Fighter \ 6 Barbarian \ 2 Rogue \ 1 Epic) 
    Hit Points: 286
    Spell Points: 0 
    BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
    Fortitude: 15
    Reflex: 10
    Will: 5
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (28 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 21)
    Strength             18                    23
    Dexterity            12                    12
    Constitution         14                    14
    Intelligence          8                     8
    Wisdom                8                     8
    Charisma              8                     8
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 21)
    Balance               5                     9
    Bluff                -1                     0
    Concentration         2                     3
    Diplomacy            -1                     0
    Disable Device       n/a                    n/a
    Haggle                2                     3
    Heal                 -1                     0
    Hide                  1                     4
    Intimidate           -1                     0
    Jump                  8                    11
    Listen               -1                     2
    Move Silently         5                     6
    Open Lock             5                     6
    Perform              n/a                    n/a
    Repair               -1                     0
    Search               -1                     2
    Spellcraft           -1                     0
    Spot                  3                     6
    Swim                  n/a                   n/a
    Tumble                2                     3
    Use Magic Device      3                    23
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Skill: Balance (+4)
    Skill: Haggle (+3)
    Skill: Jump (+4)
    Skill: Move Silently (+4)
    Skill: Open Lock (+4)
    Skill: Spot (+4)
    Skill: Tumble (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    
    
    Level 2 (Fighter)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Cleave
    
    
    Level 3 (Barbarian)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1.5)
    Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Shadow
    
    
    Level 4 (Fighter)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 5 (Fighter)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    
    
    Level 6 (Fighter)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 7 (Fighter)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    
    
    Level 8 (Fighter)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 9 (Fighter)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 10 (Rogue)
    Skill: Balance (+3)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
    
    
    Level 11 (Fighter)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 12 (Fighter)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow
    
    
    Level 13 (Fighter)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 14 (Fighter)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    
    
    Level 15 (Fighter)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Sunder
    
    
    Level 16 (Barbarian)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1.5)
    
    
    Level 17 (Barbarian)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1.5)
    
    
    Level 18 (Barbarian)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1.5)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 19 (Barbarian)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1.5)
    
    
    Level 20 (Barbarian)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1.5)
    
    
    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical
    And no, I have no idea what would be the optimal enhancement setup for this kind of a build. Well, except that you'll probably want to put a bunch of points into the racial tree as that's where the Greater DM nowadays comes from.

    And whether or not you'd really need to take Toughness still, being an elf barbarian. Without it, I'd guess you'd prefer to avoid those barbarian enhancements where you pay HP or Con...
    Last edited by mna; 10-12-2013 at 09:46 AM.
    No longer completely f2p as of November 2014. Father of 3 more DDO players so far (I do have more children than that).

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    Probably the only thing I'd change about mna's build is I would tweak the feat order a bit; in particular, you want GWF no later than lvl 12, since that's when you can pick up Keen Edge from Kensei.

    Still on the fence about optimal enhs and what to do with the last couple of feats; but let's give this a shot.
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    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.19.02
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    Level 28 True Neutral Elf Female
    (12 Fighter \ 6 Barbarian \ 2 Rogue \ 8 Epic) 
    Hit Points: 410
    Spell Points: 0 
    BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
    Fortitude: 16
    Reflex: 11
    Will: 6
    
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (28 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 28)
    Strength             18                    27
    Dexterity            12                    12
    Constitution         14                    14
    Intelligence          8                     8
    Wisdom                8                     8
    Charisma              8                     8
    
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    
    
    
    
    Level 2 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Cleave
    
    
    
    
    Level 3 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Shadow
    
    
    
    
    Level 4 (Fighter)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    
    
    Level 5 (Fighter)
    
    
    
    
    Level 6 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    
    
    Level 7 (Fighter)
    
    
    
    
    Level 8 (Fighter)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    
    
    Level 9 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    
    
    Level 10 (Rogue)
    
    
    
    
    Level 11 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    
    
    Level 12 (Fighter)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    
    
    Level 13 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    
    
    Level 14 (Fighter)
    
    
    
    
    Level 15 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Sunder
    
    
    
    
    Level 16 (Barbarian)
    Ability Raise: STR
    
    
    
    
    Level 17 (Barbarian)
    
    
    
    
    Level 18 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow
    
    
    
    
    Level 19 (Barbarian)
    
    
    
    
    Level 20 (Barbarian)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Enhancement: Elf - Elven Accuracy (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Elf - Phiarlan Dragonmark Focus (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Elf - Phiarlan Dragonmark Focus (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Elf - Phiarlan Dragonmark Focus (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Elf - Valenar Weapon Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Elf - Lesser Dragonmark of Shadow (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Elf - Valenar Weapon Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Elf - Greater Dragonmark of Shadow (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Focus: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Spiritual Bond (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Strike With No Thought (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Power Surge (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Extra Action Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Extra Action Boost (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Extra Action Boost (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Tactics (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Tactics (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Tactics (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Strength (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Strength (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Keen Edge (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Die Hard (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Toughness (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Frenzy (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Extra Rage (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Extra Rage (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Extra Rage (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Power Rage (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Power Rage (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Power Rage (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Angry Arms (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Angry Arms (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Angry Arms (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Mad Munitions (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Mad Munitions (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Mad Munitions (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Supreme Cleave (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Supreme Cleave (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Supreme Cleave (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Furious Rage (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Pain Touch (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Barbarian Power Attack (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Barbarian Power Attack (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Barbarian Power Attack (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Action Boost: Damage (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Action Boost: Damage (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Action Boost: Damage (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Weapon Bond (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Resistance (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Extend Rage (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Extend Rage (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Extend Rage (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Uncanny Dodger (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Uncanny Dodger (Rank 2)
    
    
    
    
    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical
    
    
    
    
    Level 22 (Epic)
    
    
    
    
    Level 23 (Epic)
    
    
    
    
    Level 24 (Epic)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    
    
    
    
    Level 25 (Epic)
    
    
    
    
    Level 26 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    
    
    Level 27 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Blinding Speed
    
    
    
    
    Level 28 (Epic)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    PTWF provides +5% doublestrike and doesn't require dual-wielding, oddly enough.

    An interesting variant would be to take cleric 2 instead of rog 2: you lose Evasion, sneak atks, and UMD; but gain Divine Might + Smite Foe from Warpriest, as well as access to Extend (for Shadow DM) and Heal skill+Emp Heal (for Rejuv Cocoon).

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    Thank you very much for the answers .. this is what i was looking for !!

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    Default Yay!!!

    I love this. I'm no new player, but I usually play as pure classes, but when I saw this, I fell in love with the idea! And good lord is it fun!!! I absolutely adore Elves, but could never think of the slightly squishy Elf as a martial class. But now, the next time anyone calls out the Elf on their weakness in combat, I will wield my +2 Adamantine Falchion of Sundering against them!!!

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    Thanks! Always nice to hear when someone rediscovers one of my silly old builds and actually has fun with it.

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