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    Default Poof you're dead barbarian

    I am looking at creating a Stealth TWF Barbarian who will most likely travel with a rogue so the idea is that we'll both pop out of stealth and wail on the enemies until they are dead. This will be my first character on DDO but I have experience with DnD computer games and I've started the character but want to know if it will work in the long run:
    I have him using dual warhammers for the cool factor and I really like having the dragon mark feats so that I can heal us between our stealth encounters.

    EDIT: I realize this isn't optimal, as the str penalty for halflings hurts a little as well as the lowish con because I need a decent Int in order to keep Hide/MS up through cross class skills, but I want to know if it will be unplayable as it is currently as it gets higher in level more than if it will be KILLER. I figure if I like the character enough I could always TN it to get a higher point build and make the costs less costly.

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    BarbFighter 
    Level 20 Neutral Good Halfling Male
    (2 Fighter \ 16 Barbarian \ 2 Rogue) 
    Hit Points: 284
    Spell Points: 0 
    BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
    Fortitude: 16
    Reflex: 12
    Will: 5
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (28 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             15                    19
    Dexterity            16                    17
    Constitution         13                    15
    Intelligence         12                    12
    Wisdom                8                     8
    Charisma              8                     8
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
    Balance               3                     3
    Bluff                -1                     3
    Concentration         1                     2
    Diplomacy            -1                    -1
    Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
    Haggle               -1                    -1
    Heal                 -1                     1
    Hide                  5                    35
    Intimidate            3                     3
    Jump                  6                    29
    Listen               -1                     1
    Move Silently         5                    33
    Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
    Perform              n/a                   n/a
    Repair                1                     1
    Search                1                     1
    Spot                 -1                    -1
    Swim                  2                     4
    Tumble                5                    10
    Use Magic Device     n/a                   n/a
    
    Level 1 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Healing
    Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost I
    Enhancement: Halfling Hiding I
    Enhancement: Halfling Silent Moves I
    
    
    Level 2 (Rogue)
    Enhancement: Halfling Cunning I
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
    Enhancement: Improved Hide I
    Enhancement: Improved Move Silently I
    
    
    Level 3 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
    Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
    Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
    Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
    Enhancement: Fighter Armored Agility I
    Enhancement: Halfling Guile I
    
    
    Level 4 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage I
    Enhancement: Halfling Hiding II
    Enhancement: Halfling Silent Moves II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution I
    
    
    Level 5 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Barbarian Improved Damage Reduction I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage I
    
    
    Level 6 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Lesser Dragonmark of Healing
    Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage I
    Enhancement: Halfling Cunning II
    
    
    Level 7 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Halfling Guile II
    
    
    Level 8 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage II
    Enhancement: Halfling Hiding III
    Enhancement: Halfling Silent Moves III
    
    
    Level 9 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost III
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage II
    
    
    Level 10 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage II
    
    
    Level 11 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Barbarian Improved Damage Reduction II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage III
    
    
    Level 12 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Dragonmark of Healing
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    Enhancement: Halfling Cunning III
    Enhancement: Halfling Silent Moves IV
    
    
    Level 13 (Rogue)
    Enhancement: Halfling Guile III
    Enhancement: Halfling Hiding IV
    
    
    Level 14 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost IV
    
    
    Level 15 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage III
    
    
    Level 16 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
    
    
    Level 17 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Halfling Cunning IV
    
    
    Level 18 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage IV
    
    
    Level 19 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Halfling Guile IV
    
    
    Level 20 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack III
    Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark Use I
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    horc max str, 1 ap in sprint boost, rage on and you got a pretty good 'poof your dead' barbarian. stealth is worthless on so many levels whilst lvling, you or your rog friend would be better off as either an arcane or divine for duoing, or you'll have problems...esp if its your first characters.

    the build you posted is fail in alot of ways.

    read this for info on how to build a decent first life barb: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=296816

    but wf melee and wiz, or horc barb and a clr would be much better for duoing first toons. you're going to need a group for alot of stuff most likely, and having a healer will make your groups fill, as opposed to alot of downtime.
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    I think it *could* be a fun concept.

    I would say either get 18 Barb levels...or 12.

    12Barb/6Ranger/2FTR would be neat...

    The Ranger levels lets you get move silently and hide as class skills. Plus it would give you some dual-wield feats for free.
    The Fighter levels give you 2 bonus feats and fighter haste boost.

    A 12Barb/6ROG/2FTR would/could be fun.

    More ROG levels allows UMD for healing out of combat.
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    Hey,

    unless that has been changed in the past (never tried again tbh) you cant sneak while raging. that alone makes it a very unefficient style of playing a barb (dismiss rage-> sneak ->break stealth-> rage->dismiss rage->sneak....)

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    By chance do you have access to the Monk class? The Ninja fade of a Dark Monk works perfectly for the scenario of sneaking through quests, throw the sneak icon onto a custom hotbar slot (i use ` [tilde]) so you can hit it quickly in mid air, while swimming, climbing up ladders etc. for a little extra Ki generation between combat.

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    While halfling barbarians are cute and funny, they cant sneak while raging.
    Instead try 18 fighter with 2 rog or 2 monk. Monk gives extra feats, rog gives umd.
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    Missing out on death frenzy makes this build very far from optimal. 4d6 damage every swing is a lot.

    Going human would give you a bonus feat, 4 bonus skill points at level 1 and 1 bonus skill point on every level from 2 to 20. It makes the concept a lot easier to work with.

    Go 18 barbarian/2 rogue. Drop the dragonmarks of healing, keep the melee feats. Use the human skill boost and the skill focus:Use magic device feat to use healing wands and scrolls.
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    Thanks for the tips, I think I'm just going to scrap the whole build and make him a TWF Ranger instead. The whole stealth and Raging think really doesn't make sense and will lead to frustration.

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