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    Quote Originally Posted by bigolbear View Post
    We'll have no vorpal bunnies here sir! or chickens for that matter, it smacks of FOUL SORCERY!
    By the way, any chance druids getting 'summon cow' spell?
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    Maybe just give them Raise Dead and leave it at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emili View Post

    Fact be I've only ever seen reincarnate used once in DnD and was not a pretty sight.
    Really? My group loved reincarnate. It was the go-to back from the dead spell for them if it was available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xSeverinax View Post
    I really don't get this whole fuss over druids. AD&D druids really are not that great. Severely limited in armor and weapons, unable to travel far from the region they guard, limited spells - certainly in pnp they are not main healers though yes they can heal. They are supposed to be true nuetral, and if alignments were enacted properly in DDO, they would not take sides in a conflict unless one side over balanced the other - this means that a druid could actually join the opposing mobs if he felt that the powers of good were getting to powerful and out of balance. Can you imagine that - one of the people in your pug group turning against the group and being able to hurt or even kill party members....
    In fact , to be honest , in PnP druids are gimps and the first choice of noobs and kevins.
    The same noobs who tend to "forget" that their items merged in animal form , cant wilshape in animals they never saw ,or that they cant cast ,etc.

    Wizards and clerics have miracle and wish , 2 spells that make them the best crafters and the best spellcasters by far.
    Comparing druids to them is an insult (and a proof of solid lack of understanding of game mechanisms )
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    I really hope they dont give Druids a rez spell as i dont want them to become a primary healer class, they are so much more than that, i always played mine a more a dps caster that who could bring elemental forms out for other roles boss fights etc, yes druids can heal but lore wise they cant rez and reincarnate if im[plemented should not be a straight forward rez spell maybe a temp rez back as an animal for 5 mins they they die or something simialr but not a rez spell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by axan View Post
    I really hope they dont give Druids a rez spell as i dont want them to become a primary healer class, they are so much more than that, i always played mine a more a dps caster that who could bring elemental forms out for other roles boss fights etc, yes druids can heal but lore wise they cant rez and reincarnate if im[plemented should not be a straight forward rez spell maybe a temp rez back as an animal for 5 mins they they die or something simialr but not a rez spell.
    There are some revive spells in the spell compendium that let a dead character get back up and re-enter the fight for a limited time, but at the end of the duration the character returns to being dead. I think those spells for a druid would be a hoot.
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    1) A healing class in this game needs Raise Dead, due to the frequent amount of dying.

    2) Having them come back as a Kobold for 2 min is an awesome idea. No change in stats, just a funny look, would be classic.

    3) Being able to "summon" via a reincarnation (one at a time) is an interesting idea as well (get one of four follower types that last 10 min).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vellrad View Post

    Fortunately, DDO is based on 3rd edition rues
    I only ever played first and second edition so there must have been some major changes to the class. I don't know a single player who has ever used one in any of the groups I have played in. I guess it comes down to the style of game you played though.

    1st Goodberry(PH p237) – 2d4 berries each cure 1 hp (max 8 hp per 24 hours). This is good healing? 2 - 8 hit points per day?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xSeverinax View Post
    I only ever played first and second edition so there must have been some major changes to the class. I don't know a single player who has ever used one in any of the groups I have played in. I guess it comes down to the style of game you played though.

    1st Goodberry(PH p237) – 2d4 berries each cure 1 hp (max 8 hp per 24 hours). This is good healing? 2 - 8 hit points per day?
    Now goodberries can be stored longer
    Anyway, when I was playing with druid in team, everyone had at least 1 all the time, we treated it like a single use non-fail first aid
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    Got killed by a kobold? you gotta wear the bunny of shame for the rest of the quest

    Quote Originally Posted by Solmage View Post
    Reincarnate:

    You get rezzed but you now have the stats (and ideally, the appearance) of a fluffy bunny until you slowly morph back into whatever you used to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vermentto View Post
    In fact , to be honest , in PnP druids are gimps and the first choice of noobs and kevins.
    The same noobs who tend to "forget" that their items merged in animal form , cant wilshape in animals they never saw ,or that they cant cast ,etc.

    Wizards and clerics have miracle and wish , 2 spells that make them the best crafters and the best spellcasters by far.
    Comparing druids to them is an insult (and a proof of solid lack of understanding of game mechanisms )
    Agreed...kinda, I loved druids..clerics were better...but, of course, there is one deciding factor...

    Cleric Domains...period.

    Without cleric domains, yes, druids will be the best offensive divine caster. Normally, a cleric could specialize in the correct domain, and gain whatever arcane, melee, or utility features they wanted. In DDO, no such option exists...and probablly never will. Of course in DDO, with items counting towards spell levels available, clerics are already horribly handicapped. Everyone rags on bad "battle-clerics", but if this were true DnD, FvS's would be horribly gimped casters, but divine melee specialists (having no way to maintain BOTH level 9 spells AND a decent DC).

    TL : DR....DDO has entirely different definitions of base DnD lore....normal rules do NOT apply

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    Last Breath (CDiv p167)
    Druid 4 (Necromancy)

    It's similar to raise dead but the caster takes d4 damage per HD of the person raised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by axan View Post
    I really hope they dont give Druids a rez spell as i dont want them to become a primary healer class, they are so much more than that, i always played mine a more a dps caster that who could bring elemental forms out for other roles boss fights etc, yes druids can heal but lore wise they cant rez and reincarnate if im[plemented should not be a straight forward rez spell maybe a temp rez back as an animal for 5 mins they they die or something simialr but not a rez spell.
    How does a rez spell make a class a primary healer? Even a monk can get an ability via Enhancements to rez players and yet he is far from being a primary healer, nor do I think that a FvS is on. Not to mention that if you need a rez the primary healing seem to have lacked somehow

    Look at the Artificer. They can disable a trap, but they are not a primary traps smith, especialy as they miss evasion to deal with the hotest traps. Its the choice of the player how he will spec and play his characters like a Sorcerer can choose between fire and ice, and I am pretty sure with all the shape shifting and elemental spells the players will play a Druid 99% of the time as something else then a heal bot.

    So yes I DO hope they get a spell like ability to rez players, especially as the Ring of the Ancestors needs you to be good while a Druid will be probably true neutral and thus prohibit this clicky. It is a convinience in this game to be able to rez in one form or the other.
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