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    Will the DR granted through the Shield Mastery feat be applied only when Shift key is holded? Or as long as you've got a shield of any type equipped on your off hand?

    Furthermore - is the DR granted by this feat DR/-, or DR/magic?
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    It's passive and reduces all physical damage by -20% as long as you're holding a shield. This includes most blade and spike traps.

    Cannot be bypassed by anything. Doesn't require blocking and stacks with blocking DR when you push SHIFT. It also stacks with any DR you might have (in that it reduces the remaining damage after it goes through all your other sources of DR).

    Keep in mind that some rare attacks which appear physical (like floating Shavarath blades) ignore all DR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wraith_Sarevok View Post
    It's passive and reduces all physical damage by -20% as long as you're holding a shield. This includes most blade and spike traps.

    Cannot be bypassed by anything. Doesn't require blocking and stacks with blocking DR when you push SHIFT. It also stacks with any DR you might have (in that it reduces the remaining damage after it goes through all your other sources of DR).

    Keep in mind that some rare attacks which appear physical (like floating Shavarath blades) ignore all DR.
    Shavarath blades are definitely mitigated by Shield Mastery. The difference in damage is very noticeable.

    It is active blocking DR that does not apply to them.
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    Does it apply before or after all other Damage is mitigated from other DR (Natural + Shield blocking)

    And does it even show in the combat log? I have the feat, and I noticed it doesnt show. So I never actually know how much actual DR I have (Thou I admit it would be fluctuating if it is 20% reduction)

    And yes, it does reduce Shroud Blades Damage, I have noticed this when talking to others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirgog View Post
    Shavarath blades are definitely mitigated by Shield Mastery. The difference in damage is very noticeable.
    I just took Shield Mastery on one of my Clerics, and yeah, I noticed an immediate difference in the damage numbers from the blades when he was running around Part 3 holding a Tower Shield vs. when he wasn't. Now if only Stoneskin worked the same way
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    I wrote this up on Vinton's Place, this looks like a good place to drop it

    There was some confusion on how the Shield Mastery Feat worked. I'm going to show some tests here that explain it.

    Preface:
    Kabraxis has all his enhancements removed, so stalwart defender line is not on him. He was completely naked when performing these tests.
    Vaultofsus had Inspire Greatness, Inspire Courage, Rage, Greater Heroism, and Recklessness on him, and no other buffs for all tests. (Needed to get to-hit and damage up high enough to make the test relevant).

    Items Used:

    +1 Dwarven Waraxe




    +1 Wooden Tower Shield




    Shield Mastery Feat Description:




    VaultofSus Damage Potential/To Hit:

    NO DR ON OPPONENT:
    Damage Potential is 19 - 28

    SHIELD MASTERY W/TOWER SHIELD ON, OPPONENT NOT BLOCKING:
    Damage Potential is 15 - 22
    The numbers round up when calculating in the passive DR percentage you get from just wearing a tower shield.

    19 * .2 = 3.8 (round to 4)
    19 - 4 = 15 for low end.

    28 * .2 = 5.6 (round to 6)
    28 - 6 = 22 for high end

    SHIELD MASTERY W/TOWER SHIELD ON, OPPONENT BLOCKING:
    Damage Potential is 1-8
    The passive DR percentage is calculated AFTER your blocking DR is taken into affect.
    The numbers round up when calculating in the passive DR percentage you get from just wearing a tower shield.

    19 - 17 = 2
    2 * .2 = .4 (round to 1)
    2 - 1 = 1 for low end

    28 - 17 = 11
    11 * .2 = 2.2 (round to 3)
    11 - 3 = 8 for high end





    Blocking DR is calculated as follows: (BAB / 2) + 2 + Shield DR rating + Shield Mastery Enhancements
    The following is Kabraxis's Blocking DR based on the formula: (20/2) + 2 + 5 + 0 = 10 + 2 + 5 = 17
    Snapshot of his in game blocking DR with only the tower shield from the test on (he is completely naked otherwise)



    The following screen shots depict approximately 80 hits give or take 5.

    NO SHIELD ON, JUST STANDING, NOT BLOCKING:






    SHIELD ON, JUST STANDING, NOT BLOCKING:





    SHIELD ON, ACTIVELY BLOCKING:





    As you can see, each of the ranges I listed above for Damage Potential, are exactly what are shown in the testing that was undertaken.


    CONCLUSION:

    The shield mastery feat is working as expected, and as Eladrin stated in the following post:
    http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...7&postcount=10

    The rumor that started my testing on this is that the shield mastery feat takes its percentage off of what your current blocking DR rating is. That has been completely negated by these tests. The shield mastery feat takes its percentage off of your INCOMING DAMAGE, and NOT your current blocking DR. It is passive, so you don't need to be actively blocking to get the DR benefit. Its also not just untyped damage, as you can see I'm taking slashing damage in these tests.

    The more damage you take, the more valuable the shield mastery feat is with a tower shield. Things like Epic LOB, your damage will be reduced by a very significant amount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanadil View Post
    The shield mastery feat takes its percentage off of your INCOMING DAMAGE, and NOT your current blocking DR.
    I hope they make elemental resistances and absorptions work this way. I want Fire Immunity!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gerardIII View Post
    I hope they make elemental resistances and absorptions work this way. I want Fire Immunity!
    I'm not sure if you read into the results correctly, but just to be sure:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sanadil View Post
    The passive DR percentage is calculated AFTER your blocking DR is taken into affect.
    This is how elemental damage is calculated, across the board. We won't be seeing that sort of immunity any time soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirgog View Post
    Shavarath blades are definitely mitigated by Shield Mastery. The difference in damage is very noticeable.

    It is active blocking DR that does not apply to them.
    That's neat, I never noticed it reduces blade damage.

    I wish the easier-to-get sources of DR did that.
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