Results 1 to 12 of 12
  1. #1
    Community Member Shamurai's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Cleveland (suburbs) Ohio
    Posts
    1,064

    Default Question on UMD stacking

    Does Golden Cartouche +3 UMD stack with an item of persuasion +3 Cha skills.. I'm thinking this is a yes.
    Starabelle McClean / Shamurai Daemon Slayer/Faithrune Justicar /
    Samuiree Kensai / Daviniti Soul Finder/ GRRONND HammerPain

  2. #2
    Community Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Posts
    1,168

    Default

    It looks to me like they both are competence bonuses, and as you know like bonuses don't stack

  3. #3
    Community Member Infant's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    EU
    Posts
    857

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Shamurai View Post
    Does Golden Cartouche +3 UMD stack with an item of persuasion +3 Cha skills.. I'm thinking this is a yes.
    http://ddowiki.com/page/Persuasion

    wiki says no (both competence bonus). I also would say no from ingame testing.

  4. #4
    Community Member Shamurai's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Cleveland (suburbs) Ohio
    Posts
    1,064

    Default

    Hm.. i was hoping cuz.. one says comptence bonus to JUST UMD and the other says to all CHA skills (including UMD). I thought my Seven fingered gloves stacked with my GS item that gives +5 to CHA skills...
    Starabelle McClean / Shamurai Daemon Slayer/Faithrune Justicar /
    Samuiree Kensai / Daviniti Soul Finder/ GRRONND HammerPain

  5. #5

    Default

    The GS bonuses are exceptional bonuses and do indeed stack with the gloves.

  6. #6
    Community Member Shamurai's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Cleveland (suburbs) Ohio
    Posts
    1,064

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by RandomKeypress View Post
    The GS bonuses are exceptional bonuses and do indeed stack with the gloves.
    Well that answers that.. bummer I was going to crafter Persuasian on to my ring for my arti.. but he already has the cartouche so no point really
    Starabelle McClean / Shamurai Daemon Slayer/Faithrune Justicar /
    Samuiree Kensai / Daviniti Soul Finder/ GRRONND HammerPain

  7. #7
    Community Member Sarisa's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Posts
    3,614

    Default

    All correct.

    Command, Persuasion, Cartouche, Seven Fingered Gloves, Epic Flameward, and the like are all Competence bonuses, and won't stack with one another.

    Big Top, Epic Big Top, and a Tier 3 Epic Spyglass (but not tier 1 or 2) are Enhancement bonuses, and will stack with Competence.

    Luck bonuses are another type, and will stack with both.

    Greensteel (and the +1 exceptional bonus on an upgraded Ring of Lies) provide Exceptional bonuses.

    A reasonably accessible setup for a Sorc UMD'ing would be:
    11 - Ranks
    13 - from 36 CHA
    3 - Persuasion item/Cartouche
    3 - Epic Big Top or Epic t3 Spyglass
    5 - GS Conc Opp SP item
    4 - Greater Heroism
    2 - Luck item (blue slot somewhere, since crafted is just on a trinket if I remember correctly)
    --
    41 - Enough for no-fail Heal with a single Death penalty, and 90% with Resurrection scrolls without a death penalty.

  8. #8
    Community Member Infant's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    EU
    Posts
    857

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarisa View Post
    All correct.
    Big Top, Epic Big Top, and a Tier 3 Epic Spyglass (but not tier 1 or 2) are Exceptional bonuses...
    I think you mean "enhancement bonuses". GS is exceptional.

  9. #9
    Community Member Sarisa's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Posts
    3,614

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Infant View Post
    I think you mean "enhancement bonuses". GS is exceptional.
    Yes, corrected.

  10. #10
    Community Member thandros's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    233

    Default

    also you can get a +1 profane bonus to Chr skills from the Spider cultist mask also I think its the same for litany of the dead

  11. #11
    Community Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Posts
    960

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by thandros View Post
    also I think its the same for litany of the dead
    Ability scores. This could push you into the next bracket, but it does not directly confer a skill bonus.

  12. #12

    Default

    Don't underestimate the bunny hat from the DDO store. It's a cosmetic hat, so it doesn't take up an inventory slot, but it will give you +3 UMD (Competence) when you're holding a scroll or wand. Basically, you don't need to swap in the cartouche or persuasion item to use a heal scroll - makes a big difference.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

This form's session has expired. You need to reload the page.

Reload