I play mainly PUGs, because it's the only groups I have, due to time zone etc, I'd only get to run a quest or 2 at most with the guild.
Now, I see alot of complaining etc, directed towards "noobs" etc for not knowing the quests etc, and to be honest in most pugs I have been in, hardly anyone does know the quests and there is very little in the way of communication.
Then it occured to me, how are we all supposed to learn them ?
There are channels on the servers that "keep out" the non-elite / non-highly experienced players, when those people run quests / raids, they only recruit from within those channels so everyone knows the quest / raid very well etc.
So what we have is one large group that has done the quests a million times etc, knows them backwards, but only groups with others that are similarly in the know.
Then you have the "other" group, (PUG), where hardly anyone is in the know. And this is what I am left to run with.
I have attempted to follow guides / walkthroughs, printed maps / strats etc, but none of that seems to really encompass what is inside a quest and where to go / what to do to complete, the only other alternative is to just enter and wander around and try to work it out, which takes a long time, and seems to be the reason the experienced players will not group in a PUG.
Those that have usually will pass comments like "I can't believe you don't have <insert essential item / pot / scroll / weapon> for this quest !" <-- how are we supposed to know we need that ? (it's not in the "guide" or walkthrough we wouldn't have a chance of knowing, many of the guides consist of things like : walk to the end of hallway, go upstairs, end fight. It fails to mention the 20 mobs / what they are / what immunities they have / best weps to use etc.
So I ask, how are we supposed to "learn" anything when there is no-one to teach ?
When the players who know the quests / what is required / how to do "that" part which seems impossible on your first time run through won't group with anyone but those who do know then what does that leave ? - noobs leading noobs .
There have been some exceptions to the rule, but it seems rare, I don't like putting up an LFM when I clearly do not know the quest, but it seems that I am left with little choice, as if I don't put up a LFM then it's solo it or don't do it, and while solo running is fun in some instances there are simply some quests that I have been unable to achieve this on, such as in Amrath, and lets be honest when you go in and just die with no hope of res, then it takes the "fun" out of the game and leaves you not really wanting to "go into that" again.
So, how are we noobs supposed to learn ? -
btw: I don't think there is anything wrong with being a "noob", everyone was at some point. But most had help to de-noobify themselves, it seems that there is no longer many that actually wish to help, even the pugs now are asking for BYOH, know it ! , etc.
What other resources are there ?