# Thread: Necro DC

1. ## Necro DC

*EDIT*
If you have a Spellsinger Bard in your party you can actually boost it to 51 with songs.

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I've done some thorough calculations and come to the conclusion that the highest Necro DC currently possible is 50, regardless of whether you are PM/AM, and can only be achieved by Human or Drow.

The +2 Drow Int Bonus won't get your Necro DC to 51 because you are without the +1 Enhancement Bonus Human will have. However being a Drow does make you having more choices when slotting your gear (if you are Human you are stuck with both a +7 Item and Litany).

Practically, 44 is about the maximum sane number you could get - and even that requires 1 TR. -4 away from some really rare and short buffs, -1 away from +4 Raid Tome (tough luck), -1 away from Completionist (nerds only).

Just FYI because yesterday on Amrath I heard some guy saying a "good" PM should have like 47 or so Necro DC, which is kinda silly (from a normal player's perspective).

2. Originally Posted by balancetraveller
-3 away from some really rare and short buffs
What's that?

3. The highest sustainable/reliable necro dc is 45.

4. Originally Posted by gerardIII
What's that?
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=342728

5. I feel like I am a math teacher: show your work.

Spouting a number without showing your thought process requires the rest of us to guess at your thought train.

Ex: "I say it is 55"

6. Originally Posted by Metaljaw
I feel like I am a math teacher: show your work.

Spouting a number without showing your thought process requires the rest of us to guess at your thought train.

Ex: "I say it is 55"
Firstly, calculate the highest reliable intelligence attainable by human/drow:

Human:18 startup+5 lvl-up+ 3 wiz int+1 adapt+2 capstone+2 lich+ 4 tome + 7 item+ 3 exceptional+ 1 litany+ 2 shipbuff+ 2 yug pot= 50 int

Drow: 20 startup+5 lvl-up+ 3 wiz int+ 2 capstone+2 lich+ 4 tome + 7 item+ 3 exceptional+ 1 litany+ 2 shipbuff+ 2 yug pot= 51 int

Then, calculate the DC in necromancy school:
10+9 spell level+ (50-10)/2=20 int modifier+2 item+ 2 feats+ 1 wiz past life feat+ 1 lich bonus= 45

7. I think your max int may be wrong. Not sure how he did it, but may want to look here as the second life.

http://my.ddo.com/character/khyber/zaybos/

Records an int of 58.

I guess that was why I was questioning your number. Trying to figure out what the highest int in the game it. Highest I have seen recorded is the 58. No clue how he got there.

Expecially since my toons hover around 41-44 static. (Assuming lich form and all that jazz).

8. Human:18 startup+5 lvl-up+ 3 wiz int+1 adapt+2 capstone+2 lich+ 4 tome + 7 item+ 3 exceptional+ 1 litany+ 2 shipbuff+ 2 yug pot= 50 int

Okay now lets assume u want to boost that int even further:

+2 Completionist
+4 Abishai Cookie set
+2 Storepot

would result on 58.

thats means u could actually sustain that int for 10 minutes, then you would have to rebuff.

9. Originally Posted by balancetraveller
*EDIT*

-1 away from Completionist (nerds only).

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Hey I'm going for completionist and I am not a nerd! =((((((((9999((9nine9(

10. Originally Posted by Lurzifer
Human:18 startup+5 lvl-up+ 3 wiz int+1 adapt+2 capstone+2 lich+ 4 tome + 7 item+ 3 exceptional+ 1 litany+ 2 shipbuff+ 2 yug pot= 50 int

Okay now lets assume u want to boost that int even further:

+2 Completionist
+4 Abishai Cookie set
+2 Storepot

would result on 58.

thats means u could actually sustain that int for 10 minutes, then you would have to rebuff.
Both Litany and Abishai Cookie Set count as Profane Bonus so you only gain +3 inbetween.

11. http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=289779 is pretty accurate and in depth

From your calc of the absolute maximum you are still missing +3 House D pot thus 61MAX for Drow 60 for human, not sustainable blah blah just for the sake of it

12. Originally Posted by Mrmorphling
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=289779 is pretty accurate and in depth

From your calc of the absolute maximum you are still missing +3 House D pot thus 61MAX for Drow 60 for human, not sustainable blah blah just for the sake of it
Nope, missing the store pot actually because I never checked that and thought it's not stacking with House D pots. Will update that info. And that post basically has all the info.

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