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    Default Permadeath Character Slot

    I think it would be interesting to have a separate character slot reserved for creating a permadeath character. This character would have an identifying symbol in their name display like how TR's do. If a permadeath character dies, the player would have the option of converting the character to a regular character slot.
    There are already permadeath players out there but this would be a character slot that enforces the permadeath rules. This would create a new challenge/accomplishment in playstyle for players who may have already TR'ed multiple times.

    There are many different styles of permadeath play out there but some basic concepts could be:
    1. This character cannot be raised from the dead.
    2. This character does not have access to ressurection shrines, only rest shrines
    3. Upon creating the character the player has options:
    Access to Vendors- Yes/No
    Access to Auction House - Yes/No
    Access to Trade Window/Shared Bank slots - Yes/No

    This creates different levels of difficulty. The more restrictive rules the character chooses, the better loot drops and XP awards they receive in quests.

    Anyway, there is a lot of room for creativity here that I think opens up a lot of possibilities. Just food for thought.
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    Yeah. This idea needs to be suggested every now and then. Did myself so about a year ago.

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    I hope they realize that we want the hardcore mode at least when Diablo 3 comes out.

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    I like this idea fine. I would just make one change. If your character dies, that's it. He/she's dead. It's really real, there ain't no coming back. All the items in his/her inventory - gone. Everything he/she's wearing - gone. Everything he left in his/her bank - siezed by house K. Everything in he/she put in the shared bank however is open game to your other characters.

    Other than that small change.....

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    "I like this idea fine. I would just make one change. If your character dies, that's it. He/she's dead. It's really real, there ain't no coming back. All the items in his/her inventory - gone. Everything he/she's wearing - gone. Everything he left in his/her bank - siezed by house K. Everything in he/she put in the shared bank however is open game to your other characters."

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    I'm starting to get bored with DDO, so this would be a welcome change.

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    /signed. This idea would make the game more fun and interesting. win/win.

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    We need this.
    Make it happen.

    Pro gamers would never whine about difficulty again.

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    I'm ok with this :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by MalkavianX View Post
    I like this idea fine. I would just make one change. If your character dies, that's it. He/she's dead. It's really real, there ain't no coming back. All the items in his/her inventory - gone. Everything he/she's wearing - gone. Everything he left in his/her bank - siezed by house K. Everything in he/she put in the shared bank however is open game to your other characters.

    Other than that small change.....

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    This.

    It's not permadeath if you can get killed and just keep playing the same character.

    A "'hardcore" option would be interesting, but with a D&D flavor. At character creation, you could choose "Hardcore". This means you could be raised and resurrected as usual, but each time you do you permanently lose one point of Constitution. That would make death a significant event but still retain the D&D philosophy that death can be only a temporary setback. Just don't die too many times or you'll turn into a hopeless character.
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    However resurrection should still be allowed. Honestly it's dnd, resurrection through clerics is used even in pnp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DawnofEntropy View Post
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    However resurrection should still be allowed. Honestly it's dnd, resurrection through clerics is used even in pnp.
    I wouldn't care anykind of resurrection. Of course, with this is always better than without but...

    If they decided to create PD/Hardcore mode it would be for challenge. Resurrection (anykind) simply makes game easier and would be against the idea why to create it in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mobrien316 View Post
    This.

    It's not permadeath if you can get killed and just keep playing the same character.

    A "'hardcore" option would be interesting, but with a D&D flavor. At character creation, you could choose "Hardcore". This means you could be raised and resurrected as usual, but each time you do you permanently lose one point of Constitution. That would make death a significant event but still retain the D&D philosophy that death can be only a temporary setback. Just don't die too many times or you'll turn into a hopeless character.
    Not to mention XP loss!

    This would certainly end up being quite an interesting feature if they add this...!
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    While I would not play under some of the "rules" expresed.. I think more options while no harming other people is always and improvement, so:

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    I might not like some of the things of this permadeath i also think more options is always welcome and hey challenge is good.

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    I see 2 options for Turbine: Convert an existing character slot to a PD exclusive slot (lowering "real" character slots to 1, 3 and 9 for free, premium and VIPs respectively), or to make a PD exclusive slot purchasable in the ddostore. (Let's face it, Turbine will not add another character slot for free, even if it is a PD slot)
    If the former happens, pretty much every F2P/Premium/VIP player who plays more than 1/3/9 characters will be outraged for not being able to die on one specific character without losing everything. If the latter happens, almost nobody would buy it because there are already character slots for sale in the store which don't auto-delete your character at -10 hp.

    If you want a PD character, buy another normal character slot, enter 'Permadeath' for your character's last name and follow PD rules. Special character slots should not be implemented just so people can play the same way that they could without those slots.


    I'm not even going to go into how long and buggy it would be to code it.
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    I think this is a great idea. It would force player to think about the play style.

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    Do you think it would still work if you made it revert character back to lvl 1 + loss of current gear? This would leave banks and mail boxes available. I think it would be hard for players to think about what they held in their bank. People would be constantly muling to get the value able items off the PD toon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heklen View Post
    I think this is a great idea. It would force player to think about the play style.

    /Signed.

    Do you think it would still work if you made it revert character back to lvl 1 + loss of current gear? This would leave banks and mail boxes available. I think it would be hard for players to think about what they held in their bank. People would be constantly muling to get the value able items off the PD toon.

    Cheers,
    Have to lose tomes too, otherwise its an easy way to rebuild a character you used tomes on.

    If its going to be a character slot for permadeath it needs to be unlocked somehow. Favor or a specific level. You don't want this being put in, bunch of new players seeing a new slot, shifting gear over then dieing, losing all of the items then flooding forums/bug reports.

    Add a flag for permadeath only groups, or allow the leader to mix in normal chars. If i am playing a normal mode barb and want to charge through some traps(may never happen, but imagine a low spot permadeath char and they decide to randomize trap locations..) with a group following me (or could apply to folks having fun with grease near lava and such...) no reason to punish others.

    On permadeath char deaths make it permanent, these are people going for a bigger challenge. Also give them several ways to recover gear. Option #1: The character dies, it gets buried along with their items. Any other character on the account can loot the grave, have a chance to recover some of the gear, maybe all.. but also a chance to be thrown into a very tough battle with some sort of guards for the graveyard(maybe the ghost of the dead character?). Option #2: Offer some plat to recover a random item (or several), but has to be next of kin(on the same account). Option #3: Hire a shady character to break into the graveyard recover the lost items for you, what could possibly go wrong?

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    Unfortunately, this makes way too much sense to ever be implemented
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    plus they would make it to easy somehow, but lets hope.

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    Default They have almost this in LOTRO

    If I remember correctly there are different kind of titles in LOTRO and you can choose to use them if you fill the conditions,
    (example: Templarion has killed 15 pigs ==> Templarion "the Pig-Farmer").

    One of the titles can be used only if the player has not died. If he ever dies, he simply cannot use the title anymore.

    Even a simple mechanic like this would satisfy many hardcore fans. Somekind of little mark floating above your name which you lose if you ever die.
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