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    We are learning and developing new strategies. OR finished norm MA last Wed (9/14) before many of our guildies
    were able to buy the pack on Thu (9/15) when we started completing both raids every night. We are making
    progress toward our goal of epic runs. Tonight (9/19) we completed both raids on Hard.

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    Gratz bty.

    Any major differences between normal / hard?

    What strategies are you using?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxScoobyDooxx View Post
    Gratz bty.

    Any major differences between normal / hard?

    What strategies are you using?
    I have the exact same questions. Well done on your completions, though.

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    Normal and hard are actually very similar, slightly more dmg and hp.

    As for strategies... tank and a healer, everyone else kinda runs around like mad while someone yells on the mic to GET OFF THE GOO!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxScoobyDooxx View Post
    Gratz bty.

    Any major differences between normal / hard?

    What strategies are you using?
    Only major difference between normal and hard in MA was the electric floor hits a little bit harder.

    On LotBs hard some Dreaming Dark Wraiths spawned with the Quori and Dream Reaver. They cast flesh to stone on people. Didn't remember them on Normal.

    Basic strategy we used for this go was a good tank and 3 healers. Several strategies have been developed by people and posted in the forums. We've been trying out each one. Will probably try another strategy tomorrow.

    Edit: OH and both raids have a 1 minute penalty if you die in the raid on hard. On death you can not be rezzed for 60 seconds. An icon will appear above your ghost and an icon on your buff bar with a 60 second timer.
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    The times are atrocious mostly due to explaining the fight to new people, and in the case of TLOB, doing the tour before the fight. Our raid composition was also subpar. We pretty much took the first 12 guildies/friends on whatever toon they wanted to bring.

    The difference between normal and hard Master Artificer isn't really noticeable. Force Wave wasn't any different from normal (only had 1 death from it anyway). Anti-Magic Field is the same on hard as it is on normal. Half of the deaths came during the crystal wave when people derped out and didn't stick together. Divine+bard healing the green titan tank was more than enough (one divine healer on normal is plenty).

    TLOB is pretty much the same on hard as it is on normal. The fight is about controlling the adds, getting people out of the goo, paying attention to whirlwinds, and getting the silly buff so you can melee the pillars (ie, situational awareness). We used a Favored Soul to tank this time, but we're constantly trying out new things.

    Overall hard was pretty disappointing for MA and TLOB. The only real difference is the 60 second rez delay if you die. If there's a difference in loot between normal and hard, it wasn't noticeable. Next time: epic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vengeance777 View Post
    On LotBs hard some Dreaming Dark Wraiths spawned with the Quori and Dream Reaver. They cast flesh to stone on people. Didn't remember them on Normal.
    the wraiths spawn on normal also... more spawn if you are too slow killing the pillars at the end. they also cast flesh to stone on normal. very low dc's, but you can always roll a 1.
    I only know this cuz our group was very very very very very very slow with pillars... I had about 10 of the wraiths chasing me as i kited em around and around and around, eventually i rolled a 1 and died to the train following me... did i mention that our pillar dps was low
    but seriously, it is a live and learn situation with many folks having never been to the raid before.
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    I haven't seen any information on any named loot in these 2 new raids. Anything interesting so far?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roderickus View Post
    I haven't seen any information on any named loot in these 2 new raids. Anything interesting so far?
    Yes - here's a basic breakdown
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthios888 View Post
    Interesting, thank you .

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    Grats on Accomplishment!!!

    If you doing on Epic next time it is by my own exp that melee should have electric absorption. We got to the crystals part but the electric floor was no joke. Also, when you do crystal it will lag you out when hitting the crystal for some reason.

    Epic hit on Electric Floor was 400 peer tic or so on my estimation.

    Good Luck!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kilasin View Post
    Grats on Accomplishment!!!

    If you doing on Epic next time it is by my own exp that melee should have electric absorption. We got to the crystals part but the electric floor was no joke. Also, when you do crystal it will lag you out when hitting the crystal for some reason.

    Epic hit on Electric Floor was 400 peer tic or so on my estimation.

    Good Luck!!

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    Even on hard the floor took out 3 or 4 people with lower hp (normal the floor dmg is barely noticeable, so hard it was a little unexpected), but it really scales up with difficulty.

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    Spies in the House had it's floor ramped up like that too. Care if you're trying that - lost most of my team on a hard run, and epic is supposedly 200-400 a tick.

    Glad you guys are having fun

    Are the raid battles as umm glowy as the floors in the screenshots?
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    What skin is that you're using?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ycheese123 View Post
    What skin is that you're using?
    Pretty sure its the Blackbird skin.
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