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    Red face Please Please remove neg leveling enemy abilities from solo

    Title says it.

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    I cant always afford to wait an hour for grouping. And it is pure insane, unfun, waste of time, feels like trash... you get the point. Please fix it or sell cookies of protection from neg levels if that better suits you

    Hirelings are not helpful, they dont seem to respond 4-6 times out of 10.

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    Alternatively make it to have 25sec prep time and/or "on touch". It wont make a challenge difference for classes that can take care of them in one button hit from the distance, so i guess it is quite reasonable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by janave View Post
    Title says it.

    Crying [on]

    I cant always afford to wait an hour for grouping. And it is pure insane, unfun, waste of time, feels like trash... you get the point. Please fix it or sell cookies of protection from neg levels if that better suits you

    Hirelings are not helpful, they dont seem to respond 4-6 times out of 10.

    Crying [off]

    Thank you

    Alternatively make it to have 25sec prep time and/or "on touch". It wont make a challenge difference for classes that can take care of them in one button hit from the distance, so i guess it is quite reasonable.
    There are a pair of goggles you can get from Tangleroot that cast Deathward 3 times per rest. Get them.
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    Default Deathward...

    There are multiple hirelings that can cast deathward and items that have the deathward clicky. That'll fix it for you.

    Unless you are talking beholders - then get a hireling with restoration (not lesser, but regular or greater), or scrolls.

    Hope it helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Impaqt View Post
    There are a pair of goggles you can get from Tangleroot that cast Deathward 3 times per rest. Get them.
    This, except it only has 1 charge per rest IIRC.

    There is also the silver flame neck item that absorbs up to 10 neg levels, and anti-beholder crystals and more.

    Do NOT remove neg level casting ability from mobs, it is one of the few things that make some quests interesting.

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    There are ways of stopping the negative levels. Deathward spell or clicky (from Tangleroot) or negative energy absorption item (from necro series). It's one of the reasons that beholders are still somewhat threatening. As a soloist you should make an effort to run the Tangleroot series for the clicky to help you with this issue.

    I do agree that perhaps a few other ways to acquire deathward through clickies would probably be a good idea. Right now your options are Tangleroot or epic sands with an extremely rare shard. Many higher level divine hirelings have deathward hotbarred, but I'm not certain if many (any?) lower ones do.
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    Play a warforged or wear deathward and always fight behind beholders when possible as it is the front eye that uses enervation.
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    No.

    As others have said, clickies and hirelings exist to deal with it.

    The threat is not that serious, you can fight while neg levelled.

    If you are a soloist, you should be investing in UMD and/or a helf cleric/fvs past life, in which case you can also scroll the cure (restoration scrolls)

    Sadly the neg levels wear off over time now (stupid change, they should have stayed permanent)

    It's a balanced attack and there is no reason to remove it. They have dumbed down this game way too much already.

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    there are also Deathward cookies from Festivult

    also when soloing on fleshie w hireling, i usuallz give command to hireling to attack beholder so he draws his agro and i rapidly kill it from flank or behind. Hireling seem take no ill effect from most of their attacks and have improved saves and some immunities, heh

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    Quote Originally Posted by janave View Post
    Title says it.

    Crying [on]

    I cant always afford to wait an hour for grouping. And it is pure insane, unfun, waste of time, feels like trash... you get the point. Please fix it or sell cookies of protection from neg levels if that better suits you

    Hirelings are not helpful, they dont seem to respond 4-6 times out of 10.

    Crying [off]

    Thank you

    Alternatively make it to have 25sec prep time and/or "on touch". It wont make a challenge difference for classes that can take care of them in one button hit from the distance, so i guess it is quite reasonable.
    Using Visor of the Flesh Render Guards makes you immune to neg levels, as well as insta kills and inflict spells.

    If you're talking about Beholders... well, they're supposed to be hard to fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WangChi View Post
    There are multiple hirelings that can cast deathward and items that have the deathward clicky. That'll fix it for you.

    Unless you are talking beholders - then get a hireling with restoration (not lesser, but regular or greater), or scrolls.

    Hope it helps.
    I covered this just the other day.


    http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=329862

    Not a single response in the thread. And it was just a day or so ago I posted the thread, but meh, oh well.

    I do however think that getting hit 1 time with neg levels...even from a boss and getting 6 and even 10 neg levels all in one or to hits is absolutely BS though.

    As far as hirelings with deathward, it's only useful in quests without a Beholder, then it is useless.

    I think the FVS hirelings SHOULD have that niche taken, with the restore spells, since I think cleric should keep it's divine vitality as that is useful....VERY useful to several different classes.

    But there is not much to choose from after level 14 for restore, and with the new madness quests, that is where the beholders start to get thick.

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    You do realize what you're suggesting is an indirect nerf to the warforged race. Currently neg level immunity is the strongest point for me to even consider WF on my favored soul or my wizards.

    This might not help, but dont solo those quests especially the beholder ones. Otherwise you can always get a hireling that can cast deathward or the aforementioned items.

    As have said and done before, DDO was not really meant to be soloed, other than that, tailor your character to be solo focused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDjinnFor View Post
    If you're talking about Beholders... well, they're supposed to be hard to fight.
    This ^. Beholder's were meant to be deadly.

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    12 levels of paladin and hunter of the deadII would help your problem as well.
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    If you're talking about casual difficulty then I guess why not. They've already dumbed it down enough on casual that another easy button isn't going to hurt anything. The people that would normally complain about easy buttons don't run casual anyways and there's pretty stiff xp penalties to casual. Anything other than casual though? Not a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by puget View Post
    I do however think that getting hit 1 time with neg levels...even from a boss and getting 6 and even 10 neg levels all in one or to hits is absolutely BS though.
    Energy Drain is 2d4 neg levels, and we can do it to them they should be able to do it to us. While I highly doubt you got 10 negs with a single energy drain I do think its possible you got hit with it twice on more than 1 occasion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by janave View Post
    Title says it.

    Crying [on]

    I cant always afford to wait an hour for grouping. And it is pure insane, unfun, waste of time, feels like trash... you get the point. Please fix it or sell cookies of protection from neg levels if that better suits you

    Hirelings are not helpful, they dont seem to respond 4-6 times out of 10.

    Crying [off]

    Thank you

    Alternatively make it to have 25sec prep time and/or "on touch". It wont make a challenge difference for classes that can take care of them in one button hit from the distance, so i guess it is quite reasonable.
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    This is a very bad idea and I hope never happens. Negative level draining is part of D&D at its core. There are more than enough items in game now to prevent or remove this effective.
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    Silver flame trinket with 3rd upgrade......absorbs 10 neg level effects per rest. Also has deathblock on it. Beholder fighting dream trinket!

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    No.

    For all the reason stated in posts above.

    We don't need to remove all challenge from the game do we?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaNeed View Post
    There is also the silver flame neck item that absorbs up to 10 neg levels, and anti-beholder crystals and more.
    The anti beholder crystal doesnt save you from neg levels, it protects from ray attacks like desintegrate. Still awesome.
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