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    Quote Originally Posted by Veriden View Post
    Melees beware, sorc savant3 of ice does not need line of sight and can go through the walls in pvp areas so they can hide behind the wall at the back of the lobster and cast ice prison on you with out needing line of sight. This needs attention for it's a broken mechanic exploit being used for griefing.
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    Ddo needs to bring back kobald island and send all the pvpers there, never to escape!

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    This is WAI and works fine. If you don't have the Reflex to save on the hold, or the resists/protection/HP to save on the damage, then don't fight any Water Savants.. UMD Fire Shield and make the save you'll take like no damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veriden View Post
    Melees beware, sorc savant3 of ice does not need line of sight and can go through the walls in pvp areas so they can hide behind the wall at the back of the lobster and cast ice prison on you with out needing line of sight. This needs attention for it's a broken mechanic exploit being used for griefing.
    I dont care in any way whatsoever

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veriden View Post
    If you knew how dnd works, ALL spells need line of sight.
    Incorrect. But even if you were right, do you really want to go by the book for spells? That means ranged spells would need to make a touch attack much of time. Oh wait, we don't even have a touch AC implimented in game. Most healing spells would also be touch range only. Damage spells would hit friend and foe alike. You could not stand on top of a friendly player and swing with them, you would have to be 5ft apart.

    Seriously, attacking someone's D&D knowledge in this case is just sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gkar View Post
    Incorrect. But even if you were right, do you really want to go by the book for spells? That means ranged spells would need to make a touch attack much of time. Oh wait, we don't even have a touch AC implimented in game. Most healing spells would also be touch range only. Damage spells would hit friend and foe alike. You could not stand on top of a friendly player and swing with them, you would have to be 5ft apart.

    Seriously, attacking someone's D&D knowledge in this case is just sad.
    That's not entirely fair. All the changes you list are deliberate changes made so that the system works in a video game format. Requiring line-of-sight for many spells (ie finger of death) has, equally deliberately, remained, and because it is still a good design choice.

    Probably requiring line of sight for the savant abilities is still the correct design decision.
    However, the motivation for this must be in persuit of "good game design," not "because SRD said so."

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    Cold savants are widely acknowledged as the best single-target DPS casters in the game. Don't fight them.
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    THis thread is very confuzing to me...whats pvp?
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    Quote Originally Posted by karnokvolrath View Post
    THis thread is very confuzing to me...whats pvp?
    Currently, it's a testbed for new abilities. Someone conveniently found out for us that you do not need line-of-sight for the new ice savant ability! Thank you, OP!
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    Ignoring the whole pvp part, can you icy prison enemies through barriers or doors in quests? If yes then with the type of spell it is I do see an issue that needs fixing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kernal42 View Post
    The false statement you made did not exclude Teleport, so that is a valid spell to use to demonstrate the invalidity of the statement.

    There are, of course, others.

    Scrying does not require line of sight (obviously; it would be useless otherwise).
    Nightmare does not require line of sight.

    There are even offensive spells implemented in DDO that do not require line of sight. For example:
    Circle of Death and Wail of the Banshee both can affect targets that you do not have line-of-sight to.

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    last time i checked teleport was self cast only. umm if u dont have line of sight to yourself..... get blindness immunity?

    cod wotb what's next on your list? delayed blast fb? rly now rattling of the proximity effects is not nearly a valid answer.

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