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    Default R.O.G.U.E. Proving Grounds, part trois

    I am posting this because the other thread will, sadly, no longer be watched by the person who started it, and they invited anyone to pick up where they left off.

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    On a sadder note, I pretty much quit the game about 2 months ago. So... if anyone wants to copy/paste or otherwise take over the proving grounds for me, then have at it! I don't expect to be back anytime soon, if at all.
    so without further ado, i give you all... The Ruthless Order of Guile, Utility, and Extermination, a cross-server guild in which rogues of all types are welcome. The purpose of this guild is to develop a "proving grounds" for the shadowy arts. That is, criteria to help test the boundaries of what we, as rogues, can accomplish.

    The proving grounds are split into 4 main categories: Skulduggery, Marks, Trapsmithing and Thuggery. Note that conditions, ranks, and even the feats themselves may change based on community preference, additional data, changes and updates to the game, and/or my whim.

    I am soliciting suggestions for feats and conditions for these categories. Note, any feat should be confirmable by screenshot. The appropriate combat log may be necessary in some cases. Also, I'm OK with some feats requiring a certain path (Assassin, Acrobat, Mechanic), as one can always respec to perform the feat and switch back as necessary. It may even promote trying different paths.

    The term "Solo" implies No-Reentry, No Hirelings, No tag-alongs for buffs, heals, etc. No outside help of ANY kind (House P Favor/Guild Airship buffs excluded).

    MEMBERSHIP RULES: In order to become a member of the guild, you must POST HERE (or PM me) with A) A feat you have accomplished on your rogue with accompanying screenshot (it DOES NOT have to be any of the listed feats, just something you thought was neato) and B) your rogue's name, race, build type and home server. Build type examples would be: Pure Assassin, Acrobat monk splash, Tempest Assasin, etc. I'm making this change as it was impossible to keep up with everyone's level progression.

    Got proof tasks and ideas? Please please post them here!

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    Skulduggery refers to completing tasks using tactics, isolating targets, hiding, and other non "brute-force" methods.
    This thread on quests without Red Named bosses may prove useful for creating ranks, and or practicing skulduggery skills. Look for MrCow's awesome list.

    10 Master Infiltrator
    Complete Sins of Attrition. Conditions: Solo, Max kills 5

    9 Darkest Darkness
    Complete Monastery of the Scorpion. Conditions: Solo, Elite, Devious bonus.

    8 Moving Shadow
    Complete a perfect run of The Claw of Vulkoor (pacify all guardians, remain unnoticed by roaming scorps). Conditions: EPIC

    7 Precise Hunter
    Complete Jungles of Khyber mini-quest (access to Vault of Night - Part 3) with minimal kills (4 trolls). Conditions: Solo, Max Level ?

    6 Smooth Criminal
    Obtain the Silver Mirror in Prison of the Mind (Vault of Night - Part 2) without killing Instolgoldt or any of the pests in his house. Conditions: Elite

    5 Mischievous Mapmaker a/k/a The Hightailer
    Locate all the explorers in Gianthold, Vale, or Devil Battlefield without a kill. Conditions: Solo, Must be level appropriate, no deaths or re-entries.

    4 Precision Scalpel
    Complete Waterworks - Part 4 by killing only the Interrogator AND escape without being detected (no aggro). Conditions: Solo, Elite, Max Level 3

    3 Passable Padfoot
    Retrieve the River Gate key in the Halls of Shan-To-Kor - Part 2 without drawing any aggro from the hobgoblin guards. Conditions: None.

    2 Cat-burglar
    Complete Stealthy Repossession. Conditions: Solo, Elite, Insidious Cunning Bonus, Max Level 4

    1 Invisible Angel
    Complete Sacrifices. Conditions: 0 kills, 100% rescued, Solo, Elite, Max Level 1.
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    There is a lot of room for improvement on this list. Please don't be shy with your suggestions!

    Marks are contracts to eliminate or otherwise interact with some particular creature. Marks noted with "Assassinate" will require the Assassin specialty and must register as such. Marks noted with "Eliminate" are open for interpretation.

    9 Blade in the Darkness
    Find and assassinate Memnezerez in Rainbow in the Dark. Conditions: Elite?

    7 Untwister
    Eliminate the Whirling Ozann in the Menechtarun Desert. Conditions: Solo

    6 Illicit Illithid
    Shadow-hump an Ancient Flayer (requires a weakened Ancient Mind-flayer). Conditions: None

    5 Beach-ball ballerina
    Dance with a beholder (requires a weakened beholder). Conditions: None

    3 Nine Lives
    Eliminate Krung the Brutal in Venn's Trail:Clan Tunnelworm. Conditions: Solo, Max Level 3, Does not require completion.

    2 Name dropper
    Eliminate all 4 oranged-named bugbears (Madooroh, Bronkarz, Grundok, and Brakhash) in Kobold's New Ringleader. Conditions: Solo, Max Level 3, May require multiple runs/screenshots, Does not require completion

    1 Muck Runner
    Eliminate the the Troglodyte Leader (Thresh, Slass, or Xeshahl) in Missing in Action. Conditions: Solo, Elite, Max Level 3, Minimal Kills (4 oozes).
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    Trapsmithing achievements involve traps, locked chests, and secret doors.

    10 Ethereal Hand
    Disable all of the Spinner traps in the lightning double hallway in The Vault of Night - Part 5. Conditions: Epic

    9 The Master Locksmith
    Pick the locked door in Tharaask Arena. Conditions: Epic

    8 Pink Panther
    Disable the trap and open the pesky hobgoblin chest in Cabal for One. Conditions: Elite, Max Level 14

    7 Danger Deflector
    Find and disable the electric trap in the optional wing of Foundation of Discord. Conditions: Elite, Max Level 14

    6 Port in the Storm
    Find the secret door and disable the sonic traps to the shrine in Haywire's Foundry (Vault of Night - Part 4). Conditions: Elite, No Detect Secret Doors clickie (on your honor), Max Level ?

    5 Backbiter
    Register 85 Misadventure Kills (using traps) in Gwylan's Stand. Conditions: Solo, Does not require completion, Max Level 8

    4 Twisting Blade
    Complete Purge the Heretics with only Misadventure kills (using traps). Conditions: Solo, Elite, Max level 8.

    1 Door finder
    Disable the Lightning Traps and Spike Traps in Missing in Action. Conditions: Elite, Max Level 3, Rogue must use "search" to find each secret door (on your honor!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by katz View Post
    Trapsmithing achievements involve traps, locked chests, and secret doors.

    4 Door Puncher
    Open the 2 locked shrine doors in Tear of Dhakaan. Conditions: Elite, Max Level 7
    They've done away with the locked shrine doors in this quest....unfortunately

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qindark View Post
    They've done away with the locked shrine doors in this quest....unfortunately
    Yes, I believe the challenge list will need to be revamped since there are a few outdated Challenges. One that I personally helped create that now is worthless with the intimidate change from U9(?).

    Maybe someone should go through and redo the lists of challenges. In doing so, we could also add challenges to the list from the new content.
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    Deeds of Thuggery are for our less subtle-minded (but no less deadly) members, and mainly focus on DPS, AC, utility, or a combination thereof.

    10 Hellish Brute
    Dispatch the Stormreaver (The Reaver's Fate). Conditions: Solo, ?Elite?

    9 Screaming Stone
    Achieve a DR of 30+, a Intim of 80+ and successfully tank Against the Demon Queen - Part 2. Conditions: EPIC

    8 Unstrikeable Target
    Achieve an AC of 90+, and successfully tank Suulomades in Vision of Destruction, or either Suulomades or Horoth in Tower of Despair. Conditions: Hard or above

    7 Deadly Firedancer
    Complete Enter the Kobold. Conditions: Solo, Hard or above

    6 Thuggish-ruggish Bones
    Complete Against the Demon Queen - Part 1. Conditions: Solo

    5 Devil Damage Dealer
    Register the killing blow on Arreatrikos (The Thirteenth Eclipse, Part 4 or 5), Suulomades (A Vision of Destruction), and Horoth (Tower of Despair. Conditions: You may not inform your party you are attempting this rank! (That is, no asking the party to stop hitting near the end of the fight, or other tricks).

    4 Wealth Redistribution Specialist
    Complete Maraud the Mines. Conditions: Solo, Max Level ?

    2 Tough Guy (non-internet)
    Complete Waterworks (Parts 1-4) Conditions: Solo, Max Level 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by katz View Post
    Deeds of Thuggery are for our less subtle-minded (but no less deadly) members, and mainly focus on DPS, AC, utility, or a combination thereof.

    10 Hellish Brute
    Dispatch the Stormreaver (The Reaver's Fate). Conditions: Solo, ?Elite?

    9 Screaming Stone
    Achieve a DR of 30+, a Intim of 80+ and successfully tank Against the Demon Queen - Part 2. Conditions: EPIC

    8 Unstrikeable Target
    Achieve an AC of 90+, and successfully tank Suulomades in Vision of Destruction, or either Suulomades or Horoth in Tower of Despair. Conditions: Hard or above

    7 Deadly Firedancer
    Complete Enter the Kobold. Conditions: Solo, Hard or above

    6 Thuggish-ruggish Bones
    Complete Against the Demon Queen - Part 1. Conditions: Solo

    5 Devil Damage Dealer
    Register the killing blow on Arreatrikos (The Thirteenth Eclipse, Part 4 or 5), Suulomades (A Vision of Destruction), and Horoth (Tower of Despair. Conditions: You may not inform your party you are attempting this rank! (That is, no asking the party to stop hitting near the end of the fight, or other tricks).

    4 Wealth Redistribution Specialist
    Complete Maraud the Mines. Conditions: Solo, Max Level ?

    2 Tough Guy (non-internet)
    Complete Waterworks (Parts 1-4) Conditions: Solo, Max Level 3


    some of these should be changed. I've tanked sulo in tod and also in vod as well as reavers fate & hox but didnt need a 80 ac or a dr of 30. I dont see what 1 has to do with the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaximusParthas View Post
    some of these should be changed. I've tanked sulo in tod and also in vod as well as reavers fate & hox but didnt need a 80 ac or a dr of 30. I dont see what 1 has to do with the other.
    i'm not sure either. i reposted the original challenges as they were. but i know that many of them relate to previous mods. intimitanking and such. can you make any recommendations as to how i can modernize this list?

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    Quote Originally Posted by katz View Post
    i'm not sure either. i reposted the original challenges as they were. but i know that many of them relate to previous mods. intimitanking and such. can you make any recommendations as to how i can modernize this list?
    Yeah, the thuggery achievements could use updating. Achieving high AC and DR is noteworthy, and so is tanking raid bosses. But they don't need to be linked.

    Maybe have 8 under thuggery be to reach the AC, DR, and intim milestones - and maybe add in that you have to have 500+ hp and 40+ reflex. And have 9 be tanking suulo in VOD and either suulo or horoth in TOD.

    Maybe throw the tanking eADQ out, since I can't remember the last time I've seen a normal tanking strategy in there.

    I'd like to see someone solo epic Crateos. That would be a nice bit of thuggery. I've also been wracking my brain trying to think what other epics could be fully soloed by a rogue. Big Top maybe, but after they took the shortcut away it would take a ton of resources. I piddled around in eBoB today and similarly concluded it would take a ton of resources - I also decided that I hate archers who don't want to be pulled into assassinating range. Perhaps Snitch or Partycrashers? Any of them would be tons harder than eClaw.
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    These Other Titles cover anything that doesn't fit in the 4 above categories. I am actually quite interested in seeing if we can come up with a decent list of good stuff here.

    Ultimate Lord of Shadows: The first capped, double-reincarnated rogue (rogue 20 X 3). Server-wide title, there will be only 1! Lamannia excluded, for obvious reasons.

    Lord of Shadows: Cap a double-reincarnated rogue (rogue 20 X 3).

    The Total Package: Complete Epic Elite Claw of Vulkoor. Conditions: Epic, Solo (no hireling), 1 Kill, 4 traps, Pacify all Guardian Scorpions, Pass unnoticed by Roaming Scorpions and Scorpion Guardians.

    Keeper of Hades' Secrets: Participate in a successful all-Rogue Shroud.

    Devilish Deviant: Participate in a successful all-Rogue Vision of Destruction.

    Boatman: Collect all party-mates' stones and bring them safely to a shrine (being responsible for getting them killed is optional, but extra fun.)

    Slumber Party Catnapper: Take a screenshot while sleeping next to any non-magically asleep monster (no sleep spells!). Bonus for being on a bed, chest, or other architecture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by katz View Post
    Boatman: Collect all party-mates' stones and bring them safely to a shrine (being responsible for getting them killed is optional, but extra fun.)
    This is a really interesting thread! I just looked at it in detail. As a monk I'm used to the stone running task so I didn't think to take a shot of it. Next time... mayhapse...

    Tomb of the Shadow King yesterday, surrounded by a nice mob of shadows and stones and little health left I was able to grab the stones (thanks to whoever told me about the select/grab keystrokes), quaff pots (health and restore and haste), and even made it down to the shrine. I'll have to actually look at trying out the some of the other titles.

    Maybe helping them into the boat would warrant a different award - Boatman Broker? But for yesterday's run, they volunteered to hop in...
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    For whatever reason I never get around to hit Cntrl+P.

    I have done a fair number of these without thought and have not posted here of them.

    My thought for the day being the Assassination list obviously min lvl 12 orange names like Sand, GH, Vale, and Amarath rares. I know I have pulled off the 1 hit 1 kill no aggro in Amarath on most of them.

    and for giggles The Dismantler: A successful wracked, crit, and kill of the LOB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodic View Post
    My thought for the day being the Assassination list obviously min lvl 12 orange names like Sand, GH, Vale, and Amarath rares.
    Amrath rares are red names, thus assassinate won't work on them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulligan View Post
    Amrath rares are red names, thus assassinate won't work on them.

    I do believe you are INCORRECT as I know I have in the past Assassinated the Prefect Lysson among others. I did go look to insure I was still correct, and that they had not changed all of them to Reds.

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    funny list, ought to try most of those when i have time. So far, only completed the 4 mobs on Bonebite Hideout









    It was fun, bot not that hard to do. In all rooms where they spawn there are certain pile of boxes that can be climbed, just go on top of them, get your heavy crossbow out, and have fun. I felt it more of a challenge to get to the boss rooms rather then killing them. Mostly cause you gotta open doors and stuff, and there usually a bunch of mobs in the room, so that was the hard part. Killing the names was just a matter of patience.

    But i do advise other rouges to try it, wont take more then 45min and its a lot of fun (and i gotta admit it improved my stealth skills a bit).

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    Default suggestion :D

    may i suggest a new feat for the Trapsmithing achievements?

    the locked door at Tharaask Arena (VoN 1) on epic has an open lock DC90 ill see if i upload a screenshot unlocking that door next time i run it on epic..... or i might just get in there, invis and run till the door just to pick it xD

    i love this page. so many interesting challenges.. wish i knew about this before caping my 3x20 (legend) rogue xD... ill certainly keep this in mind next time i TR Cisko.

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    Default evon1 lock + evon5 traps

    and here it is, the locked door at Tharaask Arena (VoN 1) with an open lock DC90 :



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    and the evon 5 trap disabled :P




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    and by the way.. have u ever tried to do an Evon5 scroll farm just by pulling mobs to the traps? no? well, stay like that, dont try it... strangely mobs dont get hit by the traps in that quest so sad



    but on the bright side, at least they fall on the grease ^^


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    Fixing to TR one of my toons into a pure rogue. Gonna keep an eye on this thread.

    Possible new achievement: Blown to Bits with only misadventure kills? Not sure if setting bombs breaks stealth. Could be fun to try for you awesome rogues out there!

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