# Thread: How to solve puzzle in part 3 of the Shroud - Six Pattern Technique

1. ## Solve Shroud Puzzle - Six Pattern Technique

Memorize six simple patterns and be able to solve all the puzzles all of the time!

So once you know how to solve down you need to memorize six patterns:
- Patterns 1 to 5 describe all 3x3 puzzles
- No pattern needed for 4x4 as these always solve down
- 5x5 puzzles use the same solution patterns as for 3x3s
- And the 6th pattern is to duplicate unlit squares from the bottom row to the top row for all circular puzzles

If this does not make sense to you or you would like further clarification, there is a complete step-by-step guide here http://myddo.webs.com/shroudguide/puzzle.html

2. Thank you so much for this thread - it has made things sooooo much easier. I've been practicing the 3x3s and 5x5s for the past 20 minutes, and your diagrams works like a charm.

I no longer am dreading the 5x5 puzzles anymore.

+1 for a great job!

3. If you prefer another way to describe it: After you solved down you need to hit all the squares in the top row which are 'adiacent' to unlit ones in bottom row (with the caveat of ignoring column 4+5 in 5x5).

4. What I do is...

Look at the puzzle, when you see an unlit square jump on the square BELOW it (below can be in any direction, just choose one side to be top and stay consistent). Repeat until all the lights on the are lit, if you get to the bottom and its not finished then choose a different direction to be bottom and repeat.

This method works in 95% of puzzles, especially the 5x5 and 4x4.

5. Originally Posted by NinjaNeed
What I do is...

Look at the puzzle, when you see an unlit square jump on the square BELOW it (below can be in any direction, just choose one side to be top and stay consistent). Repeat until all the lights on the are lit, if you get to the bottom and its not finished then choose a different direction to be bottom and repeat.

This method works in 95% of puzzles, especially the 5x5 and 4x4.
No it works every time on 4x4 and very infrequently for 5x5s ,
what this process describes is what to do on the 3x3 and 5x5 when they dont solve first time to ensure they solve second time through .

On 3x3 puzzles you can solve up , then you will be in one of three situations on the top row

1)two of the same next to each other in the top row(ie 2 lit or 2 not lit next to each other ,xxo , oox) - jump on the two top corners then solve down
2)two of the same not next to each other(xxx,xox,oxo), - solve down
3) its done -go and help someone else whos waiting for their solver to load

6. very nice. I read a longer thread similar to this when i first started running shroud. didnt really make much sense to me at the time. Since then I just use the top down method and pull up the solver when i get stuck.

Will give this a go now. +1 for the edumacation

7. your pictures seem to be gone.

8. Picture has been reinstated.

9. Originally Posted by Mrmorphling
If you prefer another way to describe it: After you solved down you need to hit all the squares in the top row which are 'adiacent' to unlit ones in bottom row (with the caveat of ignoring column 4+5 in 5x5).
Yeah, I remember this rule, and no longer need to lookup or memorize anything.

Also, the 3x3 can be solved using the solving-down rule 3 times, down-up-down, always solves. Sometimes this can be faster and less error-prone than applying the rule above: you can save the rule for the 5x5.

Biggest issue is misjumps due to lag.

10. Using this method, you can avoid issues with jumping and lag as you do not need to jump onto specific squares like solvers require you to do. When solving down, you can just run all over the lower squares so long as you do not change the 'top row' and it will work.

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