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    Default Change 1750 Favor +2 Tomes from BTC to BTA

    The 1750 favor mark gives a bound to character tome which is pretty much useless if you purchase the supreme tome from the DDO store or eat tomes before obtaining the 1750 favor.
    I would like to see this changed to a BTA or even unbound for that matter.
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    I'd prefer a +3 for 3,000 favor.

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    I must admit, the +2 Supreme tome is just to sweet for me not to use it for my toons, and I find the 1750+ reward useless, as all my toons have +2 already. BTA tomes would be slightly better, as I could probably muster enough +2s to do a supreme like tome for nothing, once in a while on some toon.

    I like the +3 for 3000 favor idea. I would actually strive for that.
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    How about we removed favor and just give everyone a free +2 tome at character completion?

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    If that were the case, that may mean people buy more packs, which in turn gives more money to turbine..

    IDK if i'm on board with this idea, leaning towards no.

    Besides, unlocking things via favor is for that server. Not sure how that factors into my judgment. Just seems like the 1750 reward is somewhat meh now that yes the +2 supreme tomes are out and that +2 tomes are worth 200k even with the inflated economy.

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    +2 tomes are easy to get and cheap. that 1750 favor used to mean something here. it used to mean: hey i just got my 32 pt characters. I've suffered through enough quests that i *probably know the game well enough by now that my next character will be more thought out, played better, AND have a couple more ability points to start with*

    now 1750 is just a tome filler... means nothing.

    I miss what it used to stand for

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    I'll admit, I was highly disappointed that 3000 favor did not give a +3 tome.. very disappointed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JOTMON View Post
    The 1750 favor mark gives a bound to character tome which is pretty much useless if you purchase the supreme tome from the DDO store or eat tomes before obtaining the 1750 favor.
    I would like to see this changed to a BTA or even unbound for that matter.
    except a favor reward is for the character that gained the favor, not a toon you just rolled off the boat 5 hours ago and are now hitting level 7.

    So what does buy a +2 supreme tome have to do with changing favor tomes to BTA again? I'm not following your logic as to how that should make a difference.
    Oh , I see the favor tomes are "worthless" if you buy a supreme tome, I get it. But then you did make that choice when you bought the supreme tome didn't you?

    I will say it will be nice to have if you ever reincarnate that toon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grodon9999 View Post
    I'd prefer a +3 for 3,000 favor.
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    125 TP at 3k favor was very disappointing.
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    +2 tomes are so cheap and plentiful why would anyone waste tp with supreme tomes. even with 10 tr's i still have a large collection of +2's on mules
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    Quote Originally Posted by t0r012 View Post
    except a favor reward is for the character that gained the favor, not a toon you just rolled off the boat 5 hours ago and are now hitting level 7.
    There is a bit of presidence against this. After all 1750 unlocked 32 pt, thus your lvl 1 toon just off the boat did get an advantage, and of course veteren status later.

    So, favor isn't just toon specific (Though, it is generally that way)

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    They should change the 1750 favor tome to a Supreme Ability one (BTC) and then people would have the choice of buying an expensive BTA one from the store or grinding them out individually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganolyn View Post
    They should change the 1750 favor tome to a Supreme Ability one (BTC) and then people would have the choice of buying an expensive BTA one from the store or grinding them out individually.
    no


    IF they did this it'd have to be something like 4500 favor at the VERY LEAST, and it would have to be BTC
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganolyn View Post
    They should change the 1750 favor tome to a Supreme Ability one (BTC) and then people would have the choice of buying an expensive BTA one from the store or grinding them out individually.
    How about a BtC +2 Tome of Supreme Ability as the reward for maxing out favor?
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    You guys act like getting +2 to all stats means something. You can get it at level 7 now just by buying it. 1750 favor for this is fine.
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    The Favor system was the best thing to ever happen to DDO.

    The DDO store killed it. And Guild buffs nailed the lid on the coffin.

    So, I would also like the tomes to be BTA. Especially since I do not plan to TR every char I make.

    Wouldn't mind a +3 Tome at a higher favor lvl either.






    We really need a favor overhaul. That brings back a real reason to gain favor now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganolyn View Post
    You guys act like getting +2 to all stats means something. You can get it at level 7 now just by buying it. 1750 favor for this is fine.
    Some people can't afford to spend RL $ for this. Grinding for enough TP to get it is an option, but would take a long time, so I don't see most people doing this, especially not for multiple toons.

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    We really need a favor overhaul. That brings back a real reason to gain favor now.
    Please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mws2970 View Post
    Some people can't afford to spend RL $ for this. Grinding for enough TP to get it is an option, but would take a long time, so I don't see most people doing this, especially not for multiple toons.

    Well, I haven't seen a graphical breakdown, but you can get 1750 favor by about 10th - 12th level maybe? And it will probably get easier as new quests get added. That seems fair for a ML-7 item as a gift. It would kill the +2 Tome market for anything except TR's that didn't want to buy another Supreme tome at level 7 though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talon_Moonshadow View Post
    The Favor system was the best thing to ever happen to DDO.

    The DDO store killed it. And Guild buffs nailed the lid on the coffin.

    So, I would also like the tomes to be BTA. Especially since I do not plan to TR every char I make.

    Wouldn't mind a +3 Tome at a higher favor lvl either.


    We really need a favor overhaul. That brings back a real reason to gain favor now.
    Please.

    i do miss upping the favor on my favor toon. That used to be something a lot of people did regularly. have a favor toon
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    Quote Originally Posted by JOTMON View Post
    The 1750 favor mark gives a bound to character tome which is pretty much useless if you purchase the supreme tome from the DDO store or eat tomes before obtaining the 1750 favor.
    I would like to see this changed to a BTA or even unbound for that matter.
    /not signed.

    1750 is a character achievement as much as it is an account achievement for the first time. No one forces you to buy from the store, AH, or make trades for tomes.

    Quote Originally Posted by grodon9999 View Post
    I'd prefer a +3 for 3,000 favor.
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    There is no character achievement for this level of favor, only account achievement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganolyn View Post
    Well, I haven't seen a graphical breakdown, but you can get 1750 favor by about 10th - 12th level maybe? And it will probably get easier as new quests get added. That seems fair for a ML-7 item as a gift. It would kill the +2 Tome market for anything except TR's that didn't want to buy another Supreme tome at level 7 though.
    you could get 1750 back in 2007 so you are @ right with all the added quests you could get it @10th lvl now.

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