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    Default Radiant servant Clonk w/kensai I

    I want to try something new, to me anyway. I'm pretty new and have never done a Cleric and only did a Wizard to level 4. So is this a reasonable build? I won't have any twinkage, nor can I pass plat to this toon. With +6 items, will this work?

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    Level 20 Lawful Good Elf Male
    (6 Fighter \ 2 Monk \ 12 Cleric) 
    Hit Points: 279
    Spell Points: 692 
    BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
    Fortitude: 17
    Reflex: 15
    Will: 20
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             14                    16
    Dexterity            18                    22
    Constitution         12                    12
    Intelligence          8                     8
    Wisdom               16                    24
    Charisma              8                     8
    
    Tomes Used
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 20
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 20
    
    Level 1 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
    Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
    Enhancement: Aerenal Elf Melee Damage I
    
    
    Level 2 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge
    Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
    Enhancement: Monk Balance I
    Enhancement: Monk Concentration I
    Enhancement: Monk Tumble I
    
    
    Level 3 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
    Feat: (Selected) Whirling Steel Strike
    Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
    
    
    Level 4 (Cleric)
    Enhancement: Aerenal Elf Melee Attack I
    Enhancement: Follower of the Sovereign Host
    Enhancement: Cleric Extra Turning I
    
    
    Level 5 (Cleric)
    Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
    Enhancement: Cleric Heal I
    Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic I
    
    
    Level 6 (Cleric)
    Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
    Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom I
    Enhancement: Cleric Divine Cleansing I
    Enhancement: Cleric Divine Healing I
    
    
    Level 7 (Cleric)
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
    Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic II
    
    
    Level 8 (Cleric)
    Enhancement: Cleric Heal II
    Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life I
    Enhancement: Cleric Improved Turning I
    
    
    Level 9 (Cleric)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    Enhancement: Cleric Radiant Servant I
    
    
    Level 10 (Cleric)
    Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty
    
    
    Level 11 (Cleric)
    Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II
    
    
    Level 12 (Cleric)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    Enhancement: Aerenal Elf Melee Attack II
    
    
    Level 13 (Cleric)
    Enhancement: Aerenal Elf Melee Damage II
    
    
    Level 14 (Cleric)
    Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life I
    Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life II
    
    
    Level 15 (Cleric)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    Enhancement: Cleric Radiant Servant II
    Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life II
    
    
    Level 16 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Weapon Defense
    Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
    Enhancement: Cleric Extra Turning II
    
    
    Level 17 (Fighter)
    Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom II
    
    
    Level 18 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
    Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
    Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II
    
    
    Level 19 (Fighter)
    Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
    Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
    
    
    Level 20 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Cleave
    Enhancement: Kensei Longsword Mastery I
    Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I

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    ok, surely someone has an opinion...

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    seems reminscent of Stryde (cant be bothered to find the link though) which is a powerful build when played well & properly geared - however with a build like this you will probably often be declined from groups by people who dont understand it or dont already know you.

    A couple of things i'd say though: bring your dex down a couple of points & put the points in Con or Str - a +1 tome isnt too hard to get hold of and that'll be enough to get you i2wf. I'd also change a few feats around & ditch dodge, 2wf defence & cleave in favour of extend spell & the 1st 2 tiers of elven dragonmarks then ditch the elf dex enhancements in favour of more dragonmark uses, but then i love being able to self-buff an extended displacement to boost my melee survivability Extend spell will also naturally make Divine Power & Divine Favour last longer for you, both of which will boost your melee power.

    Good luck with it though!
    Last edited by FuzzyDuck81; 09-08-2010 at 10:42 AM.
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    Thanks fuzzy, I knew it'd be gear intensive. I'll search Stryde and see what I find.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzyDuck81 View Post
    seems reminscent of Stryde (cant be bothered to find the link though) which is a powerful build when played well & properly geared - however with a build like this you will probably often be declined from groups by people who dont understand it or dont already know you.

    A couple of things i'd say though: bring your dex down a couple of points & put the points in Con or Str - a +1 tome isnt too hard to get hold of and that'll be enough to get you i2wf. I'd also change a few feats around & ditch dodge, 2wf defence & cleave in favour of extend spell & the 1st 2 tiers of elven dragonmarks then ditch the elf dex enhancements in favour of more dragonmark uses, but then i love being able to self-buff an extended displacement to boost my melee survivability Extend spell will also naturally make Divine Power & Divine Favour last longer for you, both of which will boost your melee power.

    Good luck with it though!

    Stryde: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=257190

    His build is is tried and tested in hard/elite shavarath. It does, however, take a lot of skill and gear to run something like this. You will be declined a lot, so get used to soloing or starting your own groups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzyDuck81 View Post
    A couple of things i'd say though: bring your dex down a couple of points & put the points in Con or Str - a +1 tome isnt too hard to get hold of and that'll be enough to get you i2wf. I'd also change a few feats around & ditch dodge, 2wf defence & cleave in favour of extend spell & the 1st 2 tiers of elven dragonmarks then ditch the elf dex enhancements in favour of more dragonmark uses, but then i love being able to self-buff an extended displacement to boost my melee survivability Extend spell will also naturally make Divine Power & Divine Favour last longer for you, both of which will boost your melee power.

    Good luck with it though!
    Unfortunately, the feats you suggest I swap are monk or fighter bonus feats, so pretty limited in my choices. But the displace would be nice.

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    good point - though i suppose once you're at high level (or capped) you could use an LR to ensure you get the combat ones as bonus feats where possible & the others as regular feats to optimise the build
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    My thoughts:

    • Base DEX is too high; drop it to 16, take +1 DEX tome for ITWF & GTWF. Bump CON to 14.
    • You went WIS-based, but IMHO this sort of build should be STR-based. You're a warrior who can act as a backup healer / buffer, not a primary caster. Your offensive spells will be too weak to do much good, with only 12 cleric levels and no DC-boosting metamagic feats. Base WIS 14 + 2 enhs is good enough, IMHO.
    • I'm not convinced WSS is worth the feat cost and lower DPS on a monk 2 splash just to use 1st tier stances. I prefer to save it for builds which go for at least monk 3 (FoL for more free heals), preferably monk 6+ so you can use 2nd tier stances.
    • Dodge, TWD, and Cleave are generally considered weak feats. I would consider another metamagic or two, like Extend. If you're trying to go for a high-AC build, you may want to consider bumping base INT to 11 or 12 so you can take a +1/2 INT tome to get Combat Expertise.
    • If you start monk instead of fighter, you'll gain 8 extra skill pts; and if you take cleric at lvl 2 or 3, you can take a metamagic at 3. You'll have to change your feat order slightly, though, but nothing too radical.

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