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    Default Hard Boiled [Ninja Assassin Build]

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    A Level 20 Lawful Neutral Drow Ninja Assasin

    Continueing my theme of Monks without reliance on various Clicky abilities, I've fleshed out my ninja assassin concept.

    THis builds offers exceptional AC, lots of sneak attack damage, some key Monk/Ninja Spy abilities, and a versitile skill set.

    I've choosen to base mine off af a True Reincarnated Fighter build, but this could be done with a baseic 28pt Drow pretty easily. Drop 2 points out of Wisdom at creation, replace the fighter Past life feat witha Skill Focus or other feat that suits your ouw needs.


    (12 Monk / 8 Rogue)
    Hit Points:
    20 Heroic Durability
    96 13 Monk
    48 7 Rogue
    100 CON
    22 TOughness
    20 Toughness Enh
    20 Minos
    30 GFL
    10 Draconic
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    366
    40 Yugo Pot
    35 HP Item
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    441

    Spell Points: 0

    Attack Progression:

    15 BAB
    16 Dex Bonus
    1 Fighter Past Life
    5 Weapons
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    +37
    -2 TWF
    ---
    +35 Unbuffed
    5 DP/Fighter Past Life
    4 GH
    1 Haste
    ---
    +45
    -5 PA or CE
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    +40 No Flanking or SA




    8/8/8 12 Monk
    2/6/2 6 Rogue
    6/16/8 Attributes
    5/5/5 Resist
    1/1/1 Resist Ritual
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    22/36/24
    4/4/4 GH
    2/2/2 Luck
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    28/42/30
    4/4/4 Holy AUra
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    32/46/34

    Abilities
    (30 Point)
    {20}Strength 11+2 Tome + 6 Item +1 Exceptional
    {42}Dexterity 19+5 Levels +2 Tome +2 Elf +2 Rogue +6 Item +3 Exceptional +3 Stance
    {20}Constitution 12 +2 Tome +6 Item
    {20}Intelligence 12 +2 TOme +6 Item
    {26}Wisdom* 14 +2 Tome +2 Monk +6 Item +2 Exeptional
    {18}Charisma 10+2 Tome +6 Item

    *FOr 28pt Non TR Build, go with 12 Base WIS

    Tomes Used
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

    A/C: In AC/Intim Mode (Water Stance, Greensteel SS's)
    10 Base
    3 Monk
    16 Dex
    8 Wisdom
    8 Bracers
    5 Protection
    4 Dodge (Raiments)
    1 Alchemical RItual
    1 Dodge Feat
    1 Two Weapon Defense
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    57 Unbuffed
    5 CE
    3 Bark Pot
    4 Insight
    1 haste
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    70 in typical AC Mode
    2 Ranger Bark
    4 Bard Song
    2 Reciation
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    78 Typical Raid buffed
    3 Chattering RIng
    2 Dex and Wis Yugo Pots
    4 Sheild Wand
    1 Air Guard double Haste
    6 Improved Uncanny Dodge
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    94 short term/rare + more if there is a Paly Aura around and if I pull a LotD and some +3/+4 Tomes Tomes

    Starting Feat/Enhancement
    Base Skills Modified Skills
    Skills (Level 1) (Level 20)
    Balance 8 14

    Concentration 1 24

    Disable Device 5 25

    Hide 7 17

    Intimidate 4 24

    Move Silently 8 18

    Open Lock 8 26

    Search 5 27

    Spot 2 6

    Tumble 5 13

    Use Magic Device 4 24

    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Dodge
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter

    Level 2 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness

    Level 3 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Weapon Finesse

    Level 4 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness

    Level 5 (Rogue)

    Level 6 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Defense

    Level 7 (Monk)

    Level 8 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Combat Expertise

    Level 9 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting

    Level 10 (Monk)

    Level 11 (Monk)

    Level 12 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack

    Level 13 (Rogue)

    Level 14 (Rogue)

    Level 15 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Past Life-Fighter Student of the sword *

    Level 16 (Monk)

    Level 17 (Rogue)

    Level 18 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting

    Level 19 (Monk)

    Level 20 (Rogue)

    * If not a Fighter TR build, SF: UMD or INTIM

    Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost I
    Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost II
    Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
    Enhancement: Drow Melee Damage I
    Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
    Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II
    Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing I
    Enhancement: Static Charge
    Enhancement: Way of the Faithful Hound I
    Enhancement: Way of the Faithful Hound II
    Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy I
    Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy II
    Enhancement: Touch of Death
    Enhancement: Porous Soul
    Enhancement: All-Consuming Flame
    Enhancement: Winter's Touch
    Enhancement: Adept of Wind
    Enhancement: Master of Thunder
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
    Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking I
    Enhancement: Rogue Assassin I
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy II
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training III
    Enhancement: Rogue Hide I
    Enhancement: Rogue Hide II
    Enhancement: Monk Jump I
    Enhancement: Monk Jump II
    Enhancement: Rogue Move Silently I
    Enhancement: Rogue Move Silently II
    Enhancement: Monk Tumble I
    Enhancement: Monk Tumble II
    Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I
    Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity II
    Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
    Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II
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    Yes these 12 monk 7 rogue build are very nice a guildy of mine is currently working on one. One quick question is why 8 rogue? Would not a fighter level for instance be better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maddmatt70 View Post
    Yes these 12 monk 7 rogue build are very nice a guildy of mine is currently working on one. One quick question is why 8 rogue? Would not a fighter level for instance be better.
    I ultimatly decided on 8 Rogue because thats when You get Improved Uncanny Dodge. I played with 13/7 tried various 12/7/1x ideas, but in the end, the extra burst AC won out.... I was struggling with the l15 feat selection until I realized I had a l19 Fighter build I dont play much anymore.
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    12 AP on dexterity seems exceptionally expensive.

    Going Wind Only you lose out on a lot of extra damage from Ki strikes, you're wholly dependent on Touch of Death and SOL if you can't build up the Ki.

    Consider going Master of the Sea (+3 Wisdom, lets you have a potentially higher AC while defensive and will have better saves than the Disciple rank one)
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    Quote Originally Posted by TreknaQudane View Post
    12 AP on dexterity seems exceptionally expensive.

    Going Wind Only you lose out on a lot of extra damage from Ki strikes, you're wholly dependent on Touch of Death and SOL if you can't build up the Ki.

    Consider going Master of the Sea (+3 Wisdom, lets you have a potentially higher AC while defensive and will have better saves than the Disciple rank one)
    At risk of sounding like a Monk noob...

    Whats SOL?

    I'm figureing my primary form of DPS on this build will be Neak Attack damage and ToD whenever I build up enough Ki.

    and yeah, 12 AP's on Dex may seem High, but when I got finished doingmy Enhancments, I didnt really miss anything.... SOme ROgue Haste boost migh tbe nice.... but overall, I'm pretty content with the enhancment list so far.
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    Would you be fighting with handwraps or short swords? I don't see Improved Crit; did you forget or is that somehow not relevant to this build?

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    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    Would you be fighting with handwraps or short swords? I don't see Improved Crit; did you forget or is that somehow not relevant to this build?
    Shortswords. Ninja Spy II gives you IC: Shortsword

    WHich brings up another Question....

    ToD... TOuch of Death... Does it work with other monk weapons or only Handwraps?
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    Ah, right - for some reason I thought this was a monk 8 / rogue 12 build.

    Last I checked, ToD was handwraps-only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Impaqt View Post
    At risk of sounding like a Monk noob...

    Whats SOL?

    .
    **** out of luck i think

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    Quote Originally Posted by Impaqt View Post
    WHich brings up another Question....

    ToD... TOuch of Death... Does it work with other monk weapons or only Handwraps?
    Yes, I am sure it works with shortswords how ever not to sure with q-staffs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Impaqt View Post
    Shortswords. Ninja Spy II gives you IC: Shortsword

    WHich brings up another Question....

    ToD... TOuch of Death... Does it work with other monk weapons or only Handwraps?
    Touch of Death is Handwrap only

    Meaning you'd be doing unarmed combat when seeking damage and SS when defensive. (or feel like blinding everything)
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmonty View Post
    **** out of luck i think
    Yep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stormarcher View Post
    Yes, I am sure it works with shortswords how ever not to sure with q-staffs
    Quote Originally Posted by TreknaQudane View Post
    Touch of Death is Handwrap only

    Meaning you'd be doing unarmed combat when seeking damage and SS when defensive. (or feel like blinding everything)


    puts a kink in the plan if it nly works withhandwraps, might have tomodify the build for that. Probobly Drop Two Weapon Defense, move Power attack up int he build and take IC: Bludge at L12

    Quote Originally Posted by TreknaQudane View Post
    Yep.
    ok, I was thinking it was some other abbreviation for a monk attack..lol..

    As I'm running my current monk hybrid, it sure seems like my Ki is pretty much constantly maxxed. I really dont have much use for it on these builds other than ToD....
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    Cool build, I am currently working on playing it, level 5 currently. I was wondering do I or should I get some gear from where and what. I only do things like tangleroot, and catacombs for good loot, even though they're boring. Thanks for the build impaqt. -ArchStriker

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    Quote Originally Posted by Impaqt View Post


    puts a kink in the plan if it nly works withhandwraps, might have tomodify the build for that. Probobly Drop Two Weapon Defense, move Power attack up int he build and take IC: Bludge at L12
    if you plan to use SS mainly isnt better to get IC S at 12 and at lvl 19 exchange it for IC B since you will have IC SS form ninja spy 2
    And that is tricky one since youll have 2d8 unarmed at lvl 19, till 19 it will be 2d6 - if you have GS SS i would go IC S at lvl 12

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    I know, massive necro post.

    But I am trying to get a build like this done. Which is basically a Ninja Spy with Full rogue skills.

    Did anything change, like Short Sword are still not working with Touch of Death? If yes I guess going Drow is not that useful, maybe halfling or half elf would be better?

    Does anyone have an updated build like this?

    Thanks!

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