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    1) How do you think 2 more feats (21 and 24) affect your choices?

    2) Thoughts on EDs?

    3) You talk about Half Elf Cleric Dilly as a viable option, but throughout this thread there is not one build discussed with the required 13 starting Wisdom. If you were building a Helf Cler Dilly in today's game, with that 13 starting Wis, what would it look like?
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    Smile Mabar is coming... what a CoinkyDink

    In light of being asked about Ranger builds and Ranged builds in general over the last few weeks, i thought it was a good time to Necro this for Pwes.
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    im thinking of doin a AA/Ranger on my main melee toon. and have all the gear needed for a easy TR and for endgame.

    but my question is instead of PA what about Precision?


    does it work well with ranged combat?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yendor_the_pokermage View Post
    im thinking of doin a AA/Ranger on my main melee toon. and have all the gear needed for a easy TR and for endgame.

    but my question is instead of PA what about Precision?


    does it work well with ranged combat?
    Precision works excellently with ranged and melee both but in most cases power attack is better for melee. Honestly if I was doing a pure ranger I'd be wanting to fit in Overwhelming Critical in which case Power Attack is required (though that doesn't exclude Precision except for shortness of feats).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yendor_the_pokermage View Post
    im thinking of doin a AA/Ranger on my main melee toon. and have all the gear needed for a easy TR and for endgame.

    but my question is instead of PA what about Precision?


    does it work well with ranged combat?
    Yes it does! Frankly, I think this is now a given for ranged characters, since it works for ranged combat. It really helps bring up To hit if you are high strength and only moderate dexterity, and it means more crits and more sneak attacks against fortified foes. Gotta love it!

    For melee, i think powerattack still gives more bang for your buck, but for a split-stat profession like archery, precision is an easy choice.

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    thx guys for your input.

    i do have 4monk lives so thats +3dmg already. i think precision would give me more bang for the feat.

    as for missing out on overwealming crit maybe i can still fit in somehow still researching
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yendor_the_pokermage View Post
    thx guys for your input.
    i do have 4monk lives so thats +3dmg already. i think precision would give me more bang for the feat.
    as for missing out on overwealming crit maybe i can still fit in somehow still researching
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    Quote Originally Posted by wax_on_wax_off View Post
    Precision works excellently with ranged and melee both but in most cases power attack is better for melee. Honestly if I was doing a pure ranger I'd be wanting to fit in Overwhelming Critical in which case Power Attack is required (though that doesn't exclude Precision except for shortness of feats).
    Please note. Crits are much more important in most all cases, and for more than a few reasons.
    Yes, i tested, and yes i confirmed. On different builds as well.
    Pure Ranger benefits most from OC, rather than Precision. If you can fit them both, great.
    Just remember... your feats are limited.
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    doesnt OC have great cleave as a pre?

    so it actually takes 3 feats, PA, cleave, great cleave.


    i cant see how a AA/Ranger fits that in without totally borking his build.


    please show me how you fit all those feats in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yendor_the_pokermage View Post
    doesnt OC have great cleave as a pre?

    so it actually takes 3 feats, PA, cleave, great cleave.


    i cant see how a AA/Ranger fits that in without totally borking his build.


    please show me how you fit all those feats in?
    Correct.

    As a pure ranger AA, you're unlikely to get it, but as a kensei hybrid, it's more plausible.

    About the only way I see it happening is:

    lvl 1: Point Blank Shot
    lvl 3: Weapon Focus: Ranged
    lvl 6: Mental Toughness
    lvl 9: Improved Critical: Ranged
    lvl 12: Toughness
    lvl 15: Improved Critical: bludgeon/piercing/slashing
    lvl 18: Cleave
    lvl 21: Great Cleave
    lvl 24: Overwhelming Critical

    This, of course, does not permit power attack (unless you traded out toughness, or lost IC: Ranged) or weapon finesse.

    Splash 2 levels of fighter at 19 and 20, and it looks a lot better.

    Edit: that having been said, the wiki has OC only working on "weapons of that type" referring, I imagine, to the bludgeon/slash/piercing required for the feat and so I assume that it doesn't work on ranged. As I am currently on my barbarian life, I'm unable to test/confirm this. Is the feat working for any IC: type that you have?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pwesiela View Post
    ...Edit: that having been said, the wiki has OC only working on "weapons of that type" referring, I imagine, to the bludgeon/slash/piercing required for the feat and so I assume that it doesn't work on ranged. As I am currently on my barbarian life, I'm unable to test/confirm this. Is the feat working for any IC: type that you have?

    Same. I was rather confused by the original question as well. Cannot find anywhere where any of this applies to Ranged... But there will always b something i don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kawai View Post


    ps: Welcome back to thread, Pwe. U rock.
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    thx Pwesiela.

    just TR'd 3 days ago and im actually havn a blast. i still melee 90% of the time but enjoying the class a lot.

    and im gonna try out precision instead.

    i like adding a bit of my own flavour to my builds. and with the gear, PL's, and complete destinies/fate points completed i positive ill be EE capable once i hit 20.


    i had just finished my 2nd rog life with the first taking PA and the 2nd precision and by far the amount of xtra crits/sneak attacks from precision out DPS's the xtra base dmg of PA.

    so testing it out will be interesting on a ranger
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    infact im thinking the combo of precision and power critical with the updates to those feats i wouldnt be suprised do as much or more overall dps as the 4 total feats to get OC.

    with 2 feats to spare.


    i may have to try that out considering once i cap and have my epic thornlord then upgraded pinion at 23 i doubt ill melee nearly as much.
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    What about combat archery? Worth it? EDIT: Looks like it's not woking right now. Anyway, so I'm considering to take Precision. But what concerns me, is that I already have 2 stances to choose from, Archer's Focus (Precise shot stance) and Improved precise shot (arrows damage everything on their route), now do I have to turn those off in order to turn Precision on? EDIT: looks like you can have them both (http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...2&postcount=15).
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    Awesome guide thanks a lot!

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    Don't worry about fitting in over-rated . . . I mean . . . overwhelming critical. You have better uses for your feats.
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    Now updated here!

    (It was easier to make a new post, than to go in and edit all the stuff in this one. Yay! Now you get a new thread to comment in!
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